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Well, to get a lot of rules questions and rulings out of the way for new players, I've decided to create a rules and rulings thread, so that many players don't post the same question over and over again.
I will mostly rely on experience that I've had from the Japanese game, and information taken from the Kingdom Hearts FAQ on the Japanese Takara Tomy Kingdom Hearts webpage, and the FAQ section in the Japanese rulebook. Granted, rulings may differ from Japanese to English, but so far (as of 03/13/08) almost all of the rulings have been identical.
For those that have rules and rulings questions, try and post them here, and I will try and add them to this post when I can.
FANTASY FLIGHT GAMES STAFF (THE KINGDOM HEARTS AREA IS USUALLY PATROLLED BY FFG NICK AND FFG ROB) HAVE THE FINAL SAY IN ALL RULINGS DISPUTES.
Updates are in green.
Overruled/outdated/erroneous rulings are in gray.
FFG Official Updates in red.
= Added a few rulings for Set Two Cards, and put confirmed, official rulings in indented quote boxes. Rulings not in quote boxes are waiting to be confirmed/overruled by FFG staff members. -giantbadger (03/13/08)
= Added some rulings for Set Two Cards. -giantbadger (03/05/08)
= Cleaned up some of this post: formatting, typos, and movement of some entries to other headings. -giantbadger (01/22/08)
IF FFG STAFF COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE RULINGS BELOW AND DOUBLE-CHECK, QUOTING THEM LIKE OTHERS BELOW IF CONFIRMED, I WOULD MUCH APPRECIATE IT. ALSO, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE PUT YOUR HANDLE WITHIN THE QUOTE BOX TO DENOTE THAT THEY HAVE THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF APPROVAL. THANK YOU. -giantbadger
----------| GENERAL QUESTIONS
----------| DECK BUILDING QUESTIONS
Q: I have a "Level 3 Foil Goofy" and a "Level 3 Non-foil Goofy." Are these considered the same card for purposes of deck building?
A: Yes. You may have three "Level 3 Goofy" Cards, foil or not, in your deck.
Q: Are Attack Cards limited to a maximum of three copies in my deck?
A: Yes, unless otherwise stated.
Q: Can I include more than one kind of promotional card per deck?
A: Yes, you can. You can have many different kinds of promotional cards per deck, but you are limited to a maximum of 1 copy of each promotional card in your deck.
----------| GENERAL RULES QUESTIONS
Q: When receiving bonuses to my Heart Point total, can I go above the amount of my initial Heart Points?
A: Yes. You are allowed to gain Heart Points even if it would take you above your initial Heart Point total.
Q: What happens if I have to draw cards, and I already have six cards on my hand? Do I still draw?
A: Yes. You simply draw six cards at the start of the game. Afterward, there is no limit to the number of cards that you can have in your hand at any one time.
Q: If I Battle the Heartless at my World Card, how do I do damage? Only to one Heartless?
A: No. Unlike other card games, a Battle is not one-on-one. When Battling against Heartless at your World Card, once you have played all of the cards and/or assigned all the Friends you want to the Battle, take the total of all the Attack Values of your Player Card, Friends (including Magic/Friends), and Attack Cards. Then, distribute that as damage among the Heartless as you like.
Q: If I Battle some of the Heartless at my World Card and I don't defeat all of them, do I lose HP?
A: No. If you don't defeat all of the Heartless in one turn at your World Card, you do not lose HP as a result. However, some Heartless cards can specifically cause you to lose HP at other times ("Wyvern" and "Pirate"), so be careful.
----------| FRIEND (AND MAGIC/FRIEND) CARD QUESTIONS
Q: If 3 "Wyvern" and/or "Pirate" cards are on your World Card at the end of the Discard Phase and you are going have your HP reduced by 3 from them, can a "Level X Ariel" (or 3 in this particular case) prevent the entire Heart Point loss?
A: Yes, because the loss is applied at the same time at the end of the Discard Phase, "Level X Ariel" (again 3 in this case) can can prevent all of that loss.
Q: Do Friends directly add their Attack Value to your Player Card, or do they add their damage on their own? (ie. cards like "Wight Knight" that read "Damage to the card from the opponent's player card and attack cards is reduced to 0")
A: Friend Cards are considered to be attacking with the Player Card to give a total Attack Value. The damage value from you or your opponents Player Card is not counted against the particular Dark/Heartless card in question ("Wight Knight"). (ie. "Level 2 Sora" has an attack value of 5. If your oppenent plays one copy of "Wight Knight" on your world card and you try and attack it with just your "Sora" player card, your Attack Value is reduced to 0. If you had "Level 1 Goofy" with an Attack Value of 4 in play as a friend card and you add him to the Battle, your total Attack Value would be 4 against the "Wight Knight" due to the fact that your Attack Value from "Sora" is reduced to 0.)
Q: Can I discard Friend Cards from play whenever I want?
A: No. Unless there is a specific reason for you to discard a Friend Card from play, such as the result of a Battle or Challenge, or discarding it due to playing a higher level of that Friend, or as the result of a card effect, you may not discard Friend Cards from play.
Q: If I only have one Friend in play, can I still play the next level of that same Friend?
A: Yes, you can. You will have to discard the lower level of that Friend before you put the higher level Friend into play.
Q: Can "Simba" be chosen as the friend to be discarded when his power takes effect?
A: Yes. You can choose to satisfy "Simba's" Proud Roar with the "Simba" card you used to activate it.
Q: Can I play "Simba" if I cannot discard the full amount of characters required by the card?
A: Yes. If you do not have the required amount of Friends or Magic/Friends that "Simba" would discard, you can still play "Simba" and just discard as many cards as you are able.
Q: Is the damage dealt by a Magic/Friend Card considered to be Magic damage, such as for the purposes of defeating a "Gargoyle?"
A: No. Damage dealt by a Magic/Friend Card is not Magic damage.
Q: If I lose a Challenge, can I use the effect of "Ariel" to negate the 1 HP loss?
A: If "Ariel" is not participanting in the Challenge, you can use the effect to discard her from play to negate 1 HP loss as a result of losing a Challenge. If "Ariel" is participating in the Challenge, the effect can't be used. This is due to "Ariel" being discarded as a basic rule for participating in a Challenge, and by the time the effect can be used, it's too late.
Q: If I play a "Level 4 Genie," can I search my deck for a Magic/Friend Card? Or can I only search for just a Magic Card?
A: You can search for a Magic/Friend Card. Magic/Friend Cards, while in your hand, deck or discard pile, they are treated as Magic Cards. While in play, they are considered to be Friend Cards.
Q: If I play a "Level 4 Genie," do I have to show the Magic Card to my opponent?
A: Yes, you must show it to your opponent to verify that you have indeed searched for a Magic Card.
Q: If I have a "Dumbo" in play and so does my opponent, what happens?
A: The effect of both "Dumbo" cards stack together, and the POW of each Heartless in play is reduced by 2 (1 for each "Dumbo").
Q: Since the effect of "Dumbo" says "Blizzard Effect," does that mean all Heartless lose 2 POW at the "Deep Jungle" World Card?
A: No. Dumbo's effect does not do damage, "Deep Jungle" will not enhance Dumbo's effect.
Q: If I have a "Leon" in play and I play a "Simba," what happens to "Leon?" Could I choose to keep him in play, and not discard anything?
A: "Leon" can't be discarded except as the result of a Battle or Challenge. This will mean that you must choose to keep him in play if at all possible, which may mean that you will have to choose to discard "Simba."
Q: How does "King Triton" work? Does it stay Level 1 when in play?
A: "King Triton" is treated as a Level 1 for the purposes of putting it into play from your hand. In other words, you could play "King Triton" if you had no Friends in play. After "King Triton" is in play, he will be treated as his printed Level of 2.
----------| MAGIC CARD QUESTIONS
Q: If I have a Friend Card with a Magic Value of 4, does that mean I can only play 2 Magic Cards each with a Magic requirement of 2?
A: No. As long as a Friend Card you have in play has a Magic Value of equal to or greater than Magic Cards you wish to play, that Friend can play any number of Magic Cards per turn.
Q: Can I total up the Magic Values of two or more Friend and/or Player Cards for the purpose of playing a Magic Card? For example, if my Player Card has a Magic Value of 1 and a Friend has a Magic Value of 2, can I play a Level 3 Magic Card?
A: No. A Magic Card can only be played through the Magic Value of a single Played Card or Friend Card.
Q: Can Magic Cards do damage to the HP of my opponent's Player Card?
A: No. Magic Cards that do damage can be used in two ways. (1) They can do damage directly to Dark Cards, such as "Heartless" Cards. (2) When used during a Challenge, the damage that a Magic Card would do instead increases your Attack Value total for determining who wins the Challenge. (For example, if you played a "Fire" Magic Card during a Challenge, it would increase your total Attack Value by 4 (the damage value of the Magic Card.) For more information on this, see the following article:
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/kingdomhearts/article-moogle1.html
Q: Can I use Magic cards during a Challenge?
A: If you use Magic cards during a Challenge, you would have to have a particular target for the card. Since Set 1 does not have any Dark Cards that can be used during a Challenge, damage-dealing Magic cards can't do anything. The "Cure" Magic card can be used to boost your HP, however.
Q: In regards to Magic Cards increasing Attack Value during a Challenge, if I am at a World Cards that doubles the damage done by a Magic Card (such as "Agrabah"), is amount of the increase to Attack Value also doubled?
A: No. Those World Cards only double the damage actually dealt by Magic Cards. They do not double the increase in Attack Value.
----------| ATTACK CARD QUESTIONS
Q: I want to play an Attack Card that has an effect that allows me to play two at the same time for an increased effect. At first, I only play one. If I play another of the same card later on in a Battle or Challenge, will I get the bonus effect?
A: No. If you want to apply the bonus effect for Attack Cards, you must play all of the stated Attack Cards at once.
----------| DARK CARD QUESTIONS
Q: Do the terms "Dark" and "Heartless" refer to the same thing?
A. Dark is the umbrella term that refers to both Heartless and Villains.
Q: During a Challenge, are the effects of Heartless in play, such as "Sea Neon" (No player can play Attack Cards), applied?
A: Yes. Even during a Challenge, the effects of Heartless in play are applied.
Q: If 3 "Wyvern" and/or "Pirate" cards are on your World Card at the end of the Discard Phase and you are going to have your HP reduced by 3 from them, would the Heart Point loss come all at once or one at a time?
A: The Heart Point loss is subtracted from your total all at once.
Q: What happens after I play all of the parts of "Guard Armor?" Does it count as 1 Dark Card on a World, or 3?
A: "Guard Armor" (when played with Arms and/or Legs) only counts as 1 card when being played. Afterward, it counts itself separately for the purposes of determining how many Dark Cards are at a World. So, on a Dark Limit 3 World, if you played all the parts of "Guard Armor" first, no other Dark Cards would be played there afterward, as "Guard Armor" will then be considered to be 3 cards.
Q: My opponent has a World Card with a Dark Limit of 3, and I have already played two Dark Cards to it. Can I play a "Guard Armor" with other parts, even though it will count as 2 (or 3) cards?
A: Yes, you can. The Dark Limit on a World Card only applies as a restriction to the number of cards that could be played there when you decide to attach a Dark Card to it. If the number changes afterward, that is fine.
Q: When playing a Heartless by the effect of "Aqua Tank," are there any restrictions on what I can play? Can I play a Heartless of any level?
A: The Heartless that is played through "Aqua Tank" must still conform to any play restrictions, such as the current Level Limit and Dark Limit.
Q: I have "Guard Armor (Arm)" and "Guard Armor (Leg)" in my hand, and play an "Aqua Tank." I choose to play a "Guard Armor (Body)" through the effect of "Aqua Tank." Can I play the Arm and Leg along with the Body, even though I didn't play the Body from my hand?
A: Yes, you can. With "Aqua Tank," the Heartless is "played," and thus the Arm and/or Leg of "Guard Armor" can be played along with the Body.
Q: For "Air Soldier," how do I go about defeating it?
A: During a Battle, you must apply damage to the "Air Soldier" first. If you apply damage at least equal to its POW, you may then distribute any remaining damage as you see fit -- even during the same Battle.
Q: If a Friend is captured by "Parasite Cage," it will be returned when "Parasite Cage" is defeated. However, what happens when "Parasite Cage" is discarded or returned to a player's hand by another effect? What happens when I Escape?
A: The Friend Card is discarded, and is not returned to the player it was captured from. In the event of an Escape, the Friend is discarded.
Q: If I defeat a "Parasite Cage" through the damage of a Magic Card, will the captured Friend be returned to me?
A: Yes.
Q: If a Friend is captured by "Parasite Cage," can I play other Friends on the same name?
A: No. In order to play another Friend of the same name, you would have to discard your Friend of the same name you have in play. However, you have lost control of the Friend captured by "Parasite Cage," and can't choose to discard that Friend.
Q: If my Friend was captured by "Parasite Cage" and I initiate a Battle against it with "Peter Pan" participating, does my Friend return because the effect of "Parasite Cage" is negated?
A: No. The effect of capturing a Friend is only activated when "Parasite Cage" is first played -- it is not an ongoing effect. Even if "Peter Pan" participates in a Battle against it, the Friend will not be returned.
Q: If a have "Peter Pan" participate in a Battle with a "Behemoth," does that mean the effect of "Behemoth" is negated, and I can Battle with Friends of my choice?
A: No, you can't. The effect of "Behemoth" says "When the player who controls the World Card where this card is placed chooses to battle against this card, all Friend and/or Magic/Friend Cards he/she controls that are able to battle this card must do so," and the effect of "Peter Pan" says "While this card is taking part in a battle, each Dark/Heartless Card that participates in the battle loses its card text." For effect activation, "Behemoth" is first, as a player that says "I will Battle" must automatically have all his or her Friends participate in the Battle. In other words, the effect of "Behemoth" activates right before the Battle, while the effect of "Peter Pan" only activates during a Battle.
----------| WORLD CARD QUESTIONS
Q: Can I have multiple copies of the same World Card into play, say, two Level 3 "Traverse Towns?"
A: Yes.
Q: When I have 13 Levels worth of World Cards in play, does my opponent get another turn?
A: No. You win the instant you have 13 levels worth of World Card in play.
Q: What happens when I play the "Level 1 Halloween Town?" Does its effect replace the 1 HP I get for moving, or in addition?
A: The effect of the "Level 2 Halloween Town" is in addition to the 1 HP you gain from Moving. Taking the effect into account, you could either gain 0 HP or 2 HP for moving to it.
Q: About "Level 3 Wonderland," does the drawback apply to both players?
A: No. The text about not being able to play certain cards at "Level 3 Wonderland" only applies to the player that played the "Level 3 Wonderland." His or her opponent is still able to attach Dark Cards to that World.
----------| TOURNAMENT RELATED QUESTIONS
Q: Are Japanese-language Kingdom Hearts cards allowed to be used in sanctioned tournaments?
A: No. Japanese-language Kingdom Hearts cards are not allowed in official tournaments sanctioned by Fantasy Flight Games.
Q: I am confused as to which value on the promo cards are Attack and Magic.
A: The upper number in blue is Attack Value and the lower number is the Magic Value. You cannot use the example in the rulebook because it does not specify the purple background at all and it is a different format than the one given in the example of the cards.
Q: Can Tournament Organizers participate in tournaments and get promotional materials?
A: At this time, yes.
Q: Is there an official means of determining a winner in a tied-timed tourney match?
A: In the event of a tie in a timed match, the winner will be determined by the participant with the highest total of heart points plus levels of revealed world cards in play.
Q: For deck construction purposes, will we be allowed a sideboard (a number of extra cards which, after rounds, you can add to your deck and remove others to alter your original deck build)?
A: Kingdom Hearts TCG does not use sideboards.
*stickied*
-FFG Nick
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Good job! ^_^
Hopefully, this will be stickied, so it's easy to access
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The rules in the instruction book aren't very clear on magic use in challenges so we were a bit confused. Thanks for clearing this up.
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At least we know that you can't use magic cards to deal damage to
the opponent's main character and that the powers of friend cards
adds to the player's original power. But against Wight Knight's and
Gargoyle's they are "technically" considered seperate powers, or
so to speak. Power reduced to zero for main character, but when you
put with friends there power is the only ones that actually can go through.
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Q: If 3 Wyverns/Pirates are on your world card at the end of the Discard phase and you are going to be delt 3 damage from them, can Ariel level X (or 3 in this particular case) prevent the entire damage?
A: Yes, because the damage is applied at the same time at the end of the Discard phase, Ariel lvl "X" (again 3 in this case) can can prevent all of that damage.
The last sentence says "can can prevent"
Also this is confusing:
Q: Do friends directly add their attack value to your player card, or do they add their damage on their own? (ie. cards like Wight Knight that read "Damage to the card from the opponent's player card and attack cards is reduced to 0")
A: Friend cards are considered to be attacking with the player card to give a total attack value. The damage value from you or your opponents player card is not counted against the particular dark/heartless card in question (Wight Knight). (ie. Sora level 2 has an attack value of 5. If your oppenent plays one copy of Wight Knight on your world card and you try and attack it with just your Sora player card, your attack value is reduced to 0. If you had level one Goofy with an attack value of 4 in play as a friend card and you add him to the Battle, your total attack value would be 4 against the Wight Knight due to the fact that your attack value from Sora is reduced to 0.)
You should probably separate it.
Friends/magic friends questions
Q: Do friends directly add their attack value to your player card, or do they add their damage on their own?
A: Friend cards are considered to be attacking with the player card to give a total attack value. So although they do support a player card, damage dealt by a Friend or Magic/Friend is not considered to be "player damage".
Darkness Questions
Q:Can a Wight Knight be damaged by a Friend or Magic/Friend?
A: Yes. Wight Knight only changes damage from a player card or attack card to zero. Since friends deal their own damage independent of the player card, they can harm a Wight Knight.
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Raganook wrote:
Q: If 3 Wyverns/Pirates are on your world card at the end of the Discard phase and you are going to be delt 3 damage from them, can Ariel level X (or 3 in this particular case) prevent the entire damage?
A: Yes, because the damage is applied at the same time at the end of the Discard phase, Ariel lvl "X" (again 3 in this case) can can prevent all of that damage.
The last sentence says "can can prevent"
I believe I prefaced my earlier statement in another thread with Holiday Party at FFG ^__^.
Raganook wrote:
Also this is confusing:
Q: Do friends directly add their attack value to your player card, or do they add their damage on their own? (ie. cards like Wight Knight that read "Damage to the card from the opponent's player card and attack cards is reduced to 0")
A: Friend cards are considered to be attacking with the player card to give a total attack value. The damage value from you or your opponents player card is not counted against the particular dark/heartless card in question (Wight Knight). (ie. Sora level 2 has an attack value of 5. If your oppenent plays one copy of Wight Knight on your world card and you try and attack it with just your Sora player card, your attack value is reduced to 0. If you had level one Goofy with an attack value of 4 in play as a friend card and you add him to the Battle, your total attack value would be 4 against the Wight Knight due to the fact that your attack value from Sora is reduced to 0.)
You should probably separate it.
Friends/magic friends questions
Q: Do friends directly add their attack value to your player card, or do they add their damage on their own?
A: Friend cards are considered to be attacking with the player card to give a total attack value. So although they do support a player card, damage dealt by a Friend or Magic/Friend is not considered to be "player damage".
Correct.
Raganook wrote:
Darkness Questions
Q:Can a Wight Knight be damaged by a Friend or Magic/Friend?
A: Yes. Wight Knight only changes damage from a player card or attack card to zero. Since friends deal their own damage independent of the player card, they can harm a Wight Knight.
Again, Correct!
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Wait..no I wasn't asking for you to clarify it
I meant the wording is really confusing, you should separate it. I was giving an example of it separated See how it flooows so much better?
(But thanks )
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has an errata been written for the promo cards because it seems like the colors are off on attack and magic values.
Example
halloween town sora has Magic value 7 Attack value 1
promo simba lv. 1 has Magic value 6 Attack value 0
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I've answered that already for you, ignore the colours, where the numbers are should be enough.
Common sense should play a part in it too, I mean, for example, why would FFG make a promo which is Level 3, 3 HP 1 Attack and 7 Magic?
And Riku, 6 Magic and 0 Attack, come on.... the most Magic you'll need so far is 4.
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And as a player I totally agree with you,but unfortunatley as Tournament organizer I'm going to have to run it as a 7 magic 1 attack with out an official ruling
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I wouldn't... I'd run it as it is, 7 Attack 1 Magic. Or you'll get some very unhappy customers....
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I'd say run it 7 ATK, 1 Magic. I mean it doesn't seem very wise they'd
make 1 Atk and 7 magic, it literally makes no sense. Besides from what
I've seen, the attack is the topmost number, above the magic.
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This is exactly it. Then there's the fact Sora has, thus far, had 4, 5, 5 and 6 Attack, while only having 1 Magic, so it makes sense to have 7 Attack and 1 Magic based off that pattern.
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they are already unhappy unfortunatley I've already had three phone calls from different customers as to what the ruling would be.
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Ulquiorra
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Or wouldn't that be the case with Halloween Town Sora and
the promos? That there attack and magic switch simply because
the colors look different? I don't think that's how it's intended.
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