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Dess
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Sorry guys. The rule book makes no mention of the position of the numbers. It says quite plainly.

A white number on a red background shows the player's attack value. 
A white number on a blue background shows a player's magic value. 


Following the rule book to the letter Itgjon is right. It sucks, but its right.


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Well, they won't be if it was ruled correctly. If you have it advertised, changing it means, everybody knows it's being played properly and those who complained feel like you listen and take things on board, so they're happy too.

Dess - It's also stated that Promos don't necessarily follow the layout of "regular" cards.

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Which honestly doesn't make sense about this part of the rule book.
Someone contact Raganook and chalk yet another question to
ask the FFG members, because I seriously think this might end up
becoming too big of a debateable topic. I agree with Venominion simply
because the fact that why would Riku have 7 Magic and 1 Attack. No
main character has 1 Attack in the game, not even the promos.

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here's my issue though the rules state only one way to determine attack value under player cards

" 3. Attack Value
A white number on a red background shows the player's Attack Value. During a battle or a challenge, the damage a player inflicts is based on his/her Attack Value. "

If it said a white number on a red background at the top on the right side of the card. or some variant there of case closed. and with all the promo's so far having this issue as far as I can tell I just think it would be officially errataed by now
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Venominion wrote:
Dess - It's also stated that Promos don't necessarily follow the layout of "regular" cards. 


Layout does not factor into this question.
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In a way it does, seeing as how the rule book was founding on
cards inside the game that normally apply. Promos weren't thought of
as a factor when they made the rule book apparently. Now you think
they would make a clarification which I am hoping will happen sometime
soon.

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Well, if "Promos are exempt from the normal layout" doesn't apply, then ignore me, and play the promos as though they weren't exempt from the usual layout.

I'm not too bothered, I just came to answer a question, whether you take the answer is up to you really.

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Venominion wrote:
I'm not too bothered, I just came to answer a question, whether you take the answer is up to you really. 


Sorry I didn't mean to snip at you. It most certanly does matter

If promos are exempt then the only way way to identify the attack and magic values is by the color of the back ground and we have a non issue. Itgjon is right.

If the promos are not exempt then we need to establish whether the position of the number identifies it which the rules do not say. If this is correct then the question still stands.

Is it an official rule that Promos are exempt from the normal layout? If so page number or link please.
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the worst part of this all is that I know that eventually the errata will come and Venominion will be completley 100% right. Because it is simply an error with all the promo cards. not just halloween sora! I find the best example of it is actually with a friend promo.
The three non promo simba's all have attack 7 magic 0
but the promo simba LV. 1 has that same mini circle format has a 6 on top
with a blue back ground and a 0 on a red background on bottom.
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Regarding promos:

The upper number in blue is attack and the lower number is the magic. You cannot use the example in the rulebook because it does not specify the purple background at all and it is a different format than the one given in the example of the cards.

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ok, so in our nightmare tournament this issue came up and I wanted to clarify it for next time.

Can you target a dark card with a magic spell, and IF that SINGLE magic spell does MORE THEN ENOUGH damage to take out that DARK CARD, can you use that LEFT OVER damage and distribute it to another dark card on that same world??


For example, I'm on a deep jungle. There are two Gargoyles on my Deep Jungle. If I let loose with a SINGLE BLIZZAGA, can i take out both gargoyles?

I've been playing that YES, i CAN because damage is added up to a total and then distributed at the end.

HOWEVER, another player at the tournament brought up a very good point, that on the magic card it says "target dark card" or something to that affect, implying that a single spell can only ever target ONE dark card.

So basiclly after reviewing the rules here, obviously Friends, Attack Cards, and Magic/Friend cards ALL work that you add it all up and distribute..... but do pure MAGIC CARDS work the same way??

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Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait. Hold the phone. So we can now use magic to boost our attack during a challenge? I mean I understand that it was done in the japanese version, but the english cards say only damage to dark cards, so I thought the ruling was that it can only do damage. Now I'm confused.

FFG, can you now use magic cards to boost your attack in a challenge?

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Axel, the answer is no. It says do damage to ONE dark card, so any extra damage is wasted. Magic is the only card to do this, which makes it the black sheep in the bunch.

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