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I have been playing Arkham Horror for a long time now and I have been always interested about the statistics of our games (what combinations of GOOs / heralds we defeated and so on).

Now, with the Kingsport Horror and the introduction of Guardians, the different possibilities for each game are incredible high.

That is why I have put together a quick and dirty form with Google docs to record the results of every game of Arkham Horror. I plan to create a web site showing different statistics and reports with the data collected.

If you wish to enter data from your own sessions, please, do it at:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pYsj88WqxwxBt5mRULVwXbw&email=true

Also, if you see something not correct in the form or you think that some information is missing, please don't hesitate to let me know.

Thanks a lot for your submissions!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/151945.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/151945.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/152048.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/152048.page GMT
I have updated the form, so you should be able to enter your games now.

Thanks again!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/152053.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/152053.page GMT
• Victory by [i]Sacrifices to Make[/i] mission

You might also consider adding "Other" for the heralds and guardians, in case someone is using a home-made, as I plan to have two or three homemade heralds (no guardians though).
But don't add "other" for Ancient Ones, because they're the focus of this study. Anyone using a homemade AO probably should not be posting statistics on this page.

You should have some other check boxes for "optional" material:

• Used "Three Acts" variant
• Used "Epic Final Battle" variant

Finally, you should vary how the game was lost:

• Normal loss (final combat; this includes awakening Azathoth)
• Maybe have a "loss by [i]End Of Everything[/i] epic battle card"
• Loss by Shudde M'ell earthquake
• Loss by "Joining the Winning Team" mission
• Loss by Act III
• Loss by forfeit, perhaps? Sometimes the discouragement of a hopeless situation is overwhelming.

Maybe you could also have an optional section where players can enter their final score so that you can have an idea by how closely the players won (or lost).]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/152328.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/152328.page GMT
And also, thanks to all the people that is submitting results, there are 20 sessions recorded already!!!
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Although. ~cough~ I accidentally added mine twice... I don't suppose you could just delete one, could you? It was a game against Yig, under the name Indrid1. That was the first recent game I could remember fully enough to put on the list.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153047.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153047.page GMT
At the moment that's the only thing that comes to mind but if I think of more I'll add them.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153073.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153073.page GMT
-Rob]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153117.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153117.page GMT the data received. This are very basic ones, but I wanted to share with you
anyway. More complex reports will be coming in the future.

Also, I plan to update the form during today.

The creation of the web site to display all this information will have to wait
until, at least, next week (not having time right now).


Based on 36 game sessions.

TOP GOOs (GOOs most used in the games)
Atlach-Nacha 4 11.11%
Nyarlathotep 4 11.11%
Yig 4 11.11%
Ithaqua 3 8.33%
Shub-Niggurath 3 8.33%
Tsathoggua 3 8.33%
Cthulhu 3 8.33%
Glaaki 2 5.56%
Hastur 2 5.56%
Azathoth 2 5.56%
Y'Golonac 2 5.56%
Yibb-Tstll 2 5.56%
Shudde M'ell 2 5.56%

A 66,67% of the games didn't have an herald. For the games that had it, these
are the Top Ones:

The Dark Pharaoh 4 33.33%
The Green Flame 4 33.33%
The King in Yellow 2 16.67%
The Nemesis Moon 1 8.33%
The Dunwich Profecy 1 8.33%

A 72.22% of the games didn't use a guardian. For the remaining sessions, this is
the breakdown:

Bast 5 50.00%
Hypnos 3 30.00%
Nodens 2 20.00%


The average number of investigators was 3 (rather low, I think).

Finally, an overview of the game results; as you can see, almost half of the
games were lost, which sound good to me. Also, most of the games were won by the
final combat, which is the weakest victory type in my opinion:

Defeat 17 47.22%
Victory by Final Combat 8 22.22%
Victory by seals 7 19.44%
Victory by closing gates 4 11.11%

And last, but not least, a porcentage of investigator defeats per GOO. This report
still doesn't take into account the Herald / Guardian combinations, but I will
work on that in the next days:

Glaaki 100.00%
Y'Golonac 100.00%
Tsathoggua 66.67%
Azathoth 50.00%
Atlach-Nacha 50.00%
Nyarlathotep 50.00%
Yig 50.00%
Shudde M'ell 50.00%
Ithaqua 33.33%
Shub-Niggurath 33.33%
Cthulhu 33.33%
Yibb-Tstll 0%
Hastur 0%

Glaaki and Y'Golonac are the only ones that remains unbeaten. I am surprised
with having Yig with better performance than Cthulhu, but I think time will
level out this.

This is everything at the moment. Keep posting your suggestions and game results
and, if you are willing to see an specific report, just let me know and I will
see what I can do.

PS: I just noticed that there was a duplicated session by AngelusNoir against
Yig I have deleted it, but the reports above still contain that information [
No time to rerun them right now, sorry]. The next reports generated will not
include that info...]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153339.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153339.page GMT Then we can see which investigators are the best. ]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153483.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153483.page GMT
I have updated the form, with the suggested "game results", along with a new section of "Miscellaneous Facts"... This part is not so important for the statistics, but it is fun anyway.

One comment about this: Right now I don't have the game with me, so I can't check the name of the "Condition Cards" (I think they are called like that), but surelly you know what I am referring to: "Darke's Blessing"?, the one in the library, the one in the newspaper...

Feel free to suggest any new miscellaneous facts!

About the different parts of the expansions, I don't think I am going to include that, it will be a lot of options and, if for instance, you are using only the "Dark Pharaoh" Allies, I don't think it has a big impact in the game results. So, if you are using the complete expansion or most of it, mark it, otherwise leave it blank.

Cheers!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153558.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153558.page GMT
You should probably change "Walking the Ley Lines" to "Sacrifices to Make."

Edit: I don't suppose there is a way to colorize each row on the results so that it's red for overall defeat, and green for overall victory? Or at the very least to move the victory/defeat result column so that it's right nect to the Ancient One column, or right after Guardian? It would make the table easier to read.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153605.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153605.page GMT
You should probably change "Walking the Ley Lines" to "Sacrifices to Make."

Edit: I don't suppose there is a way to colorize each row on the results so that it's red for overall defeat, and green for overall victory? Or at the very least to move the victory/defeat result column so that it's right nect to the Ancient One column, or right after Guardian? It would make the table easier to read.[/quote]

You are completely right, I didn't have the opportunity to check the cards and that is why I took the wrong card name...]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153612.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153612.page GMT Tasks and missions completed?

Edit: I mis entered my game. We had 3 investigators and 2 were devoured and replaced.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153651.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153651.page GMT Tasks and missions completed?

Edit: I mis entered my game. We had 3 investigators and 2 were devoured and replaced.[/quote]

Hi,

I will include the score. I usually don't calculate it myself, it is just a number, right? Also, will look into tasks and missions.

About your game, I have corrected it... but, which Condition Card did you activate in that game? I will include the name of each one of the 4 existing ones.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153710.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153710.page GMT
Coded messages.

There's lots of factors to the game score and most of them are not in your data base. You'd have to depend on the players to calculate the score and input it, I think.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153776.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/153776.page GMT
Atlach-Nacha was much easier than expect in epic combat. Yog, much more difficult. ]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/154709.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/154709.page GMT
60 sessions recorded so far, Nyarlathotep is the most popular GOO and Eihort the least popular one, as shown in this table. What is doing Nyarlathotep so popular? The Masks?:

Nyarlathotep 11.67%
Shub-Niggurath 10.00%
Y'Golonac 8.33%
Yig 8.33%
Atlach-Nacha 8.33%
Cthulhu 8.33%
Ithaqua 6.67%
Shudde M'ell 6.67%
Tsathoggua 5.00%
Abhoth 5.00%
Glaaki 5.00%
Hastur 5.00%
Azathoth 3.33%
Yog Sothoth 3.33%
Yibb-Tstll 3.33%
Eihort 1.67%

Most of the sessions were played without an Herald (58,33%). Between the games played with Herald, The King in Yellow is clearly the most popular one, and I can see why:

The King in Yellow 40.00%
The Dark Pharaoh 20.00%
The Green Flame 20.00%
The Nemesis Moon 12.00%
The Dunwich Profecy 8.00%

Talking about guardians, only a 30% of games were using them, I guess not enough people have the Kingsport expansion yet. Nodens is the less popular one (why? I don't have the expansion yet, but the blessings sound fun):

Bast 38.89%
Hypnos 38.89%
Nodens 22.22%

The defeat ratio has decreased, now it is only a 35% of the games. The victories are still mainly obtained by the final combat and, as I expected, victories by closing gates are going down:

Defeat (During Final Combat) 35.00%
Victory by Final Combat 33.33%
Victory by seals 23.33%
Victory by closing gates 8.33%

About the GOO Performance (Percentage of sessions the GOO is causing defeats), there is a triple tie between the three GOOs that came with Dunwich Horror Expansion! Shub-Niggurath is the weakest one and Yig is now in a tie with Cthulhu.

Tsathoggua 66.67%
Abhoth 66.67%
Glaaki 66.67%
Y'Golonac 60.00%
Shudde M'ell 50.00%
Azathoth 50.00%
Yog Sothoth 50.00%
Atlach-Nacha 40.00%
Nyarlathotep 28.57%
Ithaqua 25.00%
Cthulhu 20.00%
Yig 20.00%
Shub-Niggurath 16.67%

Finally, a new report: percentage of defeats for games without herald and guardian, with herald but not guardian, with guardian but no herald and with both, herald and guardian. Columns are "type of game", "number of sessions recorded", "percentage of defeats":

Herald - Guardian 11 27.27%
Herald - No Guardian 14 35.71%
No Herald - Guardian 7 14.29%
No Herald - No Guardian 28 42.86%

That's all for the moment.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/154791.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/154791.page GMT
Abhoth The King in Yellow 100.00%
Atlach-Nacha The Nemesis Moon 100.00%
Shub-Niggurath The Green Flame 100.00%
Tsathoggua The Green Flame 100.00%
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow 100.00%
Y'Golonac The Green Flame 100.00%
Shudde M'ell The King in Yellow 50.00%
Y'Golonac The King in Yellow 50.00%
Atlach-Nacha The Green Flame 33.33%
Hastur The King in Yellow 33.33%
Nyarlathotep The Dark Pharaoh 33.33%

Will you try one of the "unbeaten" combinations next time?
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Added all games I've ever taken part in on which I still had a [i]clear[/i] grasp of what went on during the game (it's only a fraction of the games I've ever played, but I didn't recall the ancient one and herald combos on most of those, so I left them out, only adding the ones which I still knew 100%).

Again, thanks for this statistics sheet/thread.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/156805.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/156805.page GMT ]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/157606.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/157606.page GMT Also, an indicator for whether investigators were random, selected, or selected to especially target or be targeted by the GOO. ]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/157902.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/157902.page GMT
- The final score as suggested from maggeith.
- From deejay I have included the method of selection of investigators and also the "doom factor". [Usually in my group, we choose between two or three random investigators before knowing the GOO, I will include this as Random, as I don't think it makes too much difference].

@Acebob

Of course, you are right, we need a lot more of game sessions to be able to extract some true information from the numbers... it will all depend if the people keeps posting results or not. At the moment, the feedback is quite good, almost one hundred sessions in less than one week! I wonder who will be the most dangerous GOO in, let's say, one month.




One last comment, as you surely have already noticed, English is not my mother language, so if you see something wrong in the form, please, let me know so I can correct it. Thanks!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/157918.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/157918.page GMT In that case, the Heralds should read as their real names:

The Dark Pharaoh
The Dunwich Horror
The King in Yellow
Ghroth
Tulzscha]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/158264.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/158264.page GMT
Coded Messages
Darke's Blessing
Rare Book Collection
Velma's Gratitude

You should have "number of investigators retired," or change the number devoured field to devoured/retired.

You should have a check box for "Epic Battle" variant.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/158950.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/158950.page GMT
Azathoth and Nyarlathotep are the most popular GOOs:

GOO / Percentage of Sessions
Azathoth 9.09%
Nyarlathotep 9.09%
Y'Golonac 8.33%
Yig 8.33%
Cthulhu 8.33%
Hastur 7.58%
Atlach-Nacha 6.06%
Shub-Niggurath 6.06%
Shudde M'ell 5.30%
Ithaqua 5.30%
Eihort 5.30%
Glaaki 5.30%
Yog Sothoth 4.55%
Yibb-Tstll 3.79%
Tsathoggua 3.79%
Abhoth 3.79%

62,88 % of the games were played without an Herald. The "download-and-print" Heralds are clearly the lesast popular:

Herald /Percentage of session (only among the games that used herald):
The King in Yellow 32.65%
Ghroth 24.49%
Tulzscha 22.45%
The Dark Pharaoh 10.20%
The Dunwich Horror 10.20%

69,70% of the games did not use any guardian. Bast is clearly the preferred one:

Guardian /Percentage of session (only among the games that used guardian):
Bast 40.00%
Nodens 32.50%
Hypnos 27.50%

A bit more than 40% of the sessions ended with investigator defeat, here it is the game result breakdown:

Game result / Percentage of sessions that ended this way
Defeat (During Final Combat) 38.64%
Victory by Final Combat 25.76%
Victory by seals 21.97%
Victory by closing gates 10.61%
Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 1.52%
Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell) 0.76%
Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 0.76%

The most dangerous GOO seems to be Y'Golonac, with more than 60% of the games where it was used ending with investigator defeat. Ithaqua is right now the weakest one.

GOO / Percentage of times the GOO won over the investigators.
Y'Golonac 63.64%
Tsathoggua 60.00%
Abhoth 60.00%
Shudde M'ell 57.14%
Eihort 57.14%
Glaaki 57.14%
Azathoth 50.00%
Atlach-Nacha 50.00%
Yig 45.45%
Cthulhu 36.36%
Yog Sothoth 33.33%
Shub-Niggurath 25.00%
Nyarlathotep 25.00%
Hastur 20.00%
Yibb-Tstll 20.00%
Ithaqua 14.29%

About GOO / Herald combinations, there is still a big number of possibilities that has not been yet defeated by the investigators, here you have the numbers:

GOO / Herald / Percentage of times the investigators were defeated.
Abhoth The King in Yellow 100.00%
Eihort Ghroth 100.00%
Glaaki Ghroth 100.00%
Shub-Niggurath Tulzscha 100.00%
Shudde M'ell The Dunwich Horror 100.00%
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow 100.00%
Tsathoggua Tulzscha 100.00%
Y'Golonac Tulzscha 100.00%
Atlach-Nacha Ghroth 66.67%
Y'Golonac The King in Yellow 66.67%
Azathoth Ghroth 50.00%
Cthulhu The Dunwich Horror 50.00%
Eihort Tulzscha 50.00%
Shudde M'ell The King in Yellow 50.00%
Atlach-Nacha Tulzscha 33.33%
Nyarlathotep The Dark Pharaoh 33.33%
Hastur The King in Yellow 20.00%

About the Herald / guardian combinations and the impact in the number of investigators defeats, gere you have the numbers:

Type of game / number of sessions/ percentage of investigators defeat.
Herald - Guardian 29 48.28%
Herald - No Guardian 20 35.00%
No Herald - Guardian 11 18.18%
No Herald - No Guardian 72 44.44%

One new stat: Percentage of use of each expansion, as you can see, The Dark Pharaoh is the least used one:

Dunwich Horror 47.73%
Kingsport Horror 42.42%
The Dark Pharaoh 33.33%
The Yellow King 42.42%


Hopefully, during this week I will put live a web site to store and present all these stats in a more user-friendly way.

Thanks for all the submissions.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/160720.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/160720.page GMT
I've thought of another thing you could add: Whether or not the Beloved of Bast cards were collected in a game. This seems to be an exceedingly rare circumstance. Also, silver twilight lodge membership cards. Sure, the cultist starts with one, but I've only ever had two games where someone obtained a membership during the game.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/160994.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/160994.page GMT
I've thought of another thing you could add: Whether or not the Beloved of Bast cards were collected in a game. This seems to be an exceedingly rare circumstance.[/quote]
Maybe even a "became Changed" checkbox. I still have no idea what that does, nor do I know about the Bast cards, but I hear that they are good times for the whole family.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/161055.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/161055.page GMT
Just to let you know that I have updated the entry form to include all the "jobs" the investigators can get (as previously suggested).

Also, during these days I am not posting new reports because I am working on the website to host all this information. Expect to have it ready on next Monday.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/165376.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/165376.page GMT Awesome, looking forward to that!

Also: I'm not sure if you thought it was relevant or not, but the twilight lodge membership & beloved of bast cards are still not options on the sheet, so just pointing that out in case you missed it.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/165697.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/165697.page GMT
FFG is forming a AH league, which includes sending FFG some AO and Investigator stats. Maybe the league organizer would be interested in your statistics forms?

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ah_league.html


aka. Washu! ^O^]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/166368.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/166368.page GMT
Thanks for the reminder, I completelly forgot about those. Now they are in.

@ced116:

Interesting, I didn't know that. It looks to me that each scenario will have special rules that will deviate from the standard game, but I don't know. Anyway I will contact JR Godwin to see if this can be usefull in some way.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/166609.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/166609.page GMT
At the end I didn't find time this weekend to work on the website, so I provide here the statistics including the last games.

There are more than 200 recorded, exactly 218.

Azathoth and Nyarlathotep are still the most used GOOs. Cthulhu has risen to the third place and Abboth is no longer the least used one:

GOO / Percentage of Sessions
Azathoth 10.09%
Nyarlathotep 10.09%
Cthulhu 8.26%
Hastur 7.80%
Yig 7.80%
Shudde M'ell 6.42%
Y'Golonac 6.42%
Ithaqua 5.96%
Shub-Niggurath 5.96%
Atlach-Nacha 5.05%
Abhoth 4.59%
Yog Sothoth 4.59%
Glaaki 4.59%
Yibb-Tstll 4.13%
Tsathoggua 4.13%
Eihort 4.13%

The percentage of games played without heralds is decreasing: from 62,88 % last week to the current 57.80%. About the Heralds themselves, there are no important changes:

Herald /Percentage of session (only among the games that used herald):
The King in Yellow 27.17%
Tulzscha 25.00%
Ghroth 23.91%
The Dark Pharaoh 11.96%
The Dunwich Horror 11.96%

The percentage of games played without guardians is also decreasing: from 69,70% last week to the current 61.93%. Nodens has taken the lead now (last week Bast was leading), and the numbers are much more closer this week.

Guardian /Percentage of session (only among the games that used guardian):
Nodens 34.94%
Bast 33.73%
Hypnos 31.33%

The Win/Defeat ratio is more or less stable with around 40% of the games ending with investigator defeats. The breakdown of the results shows a boost for the "Victory by Seals" option:

Game result / Percentage of sessions that ended this way
Defeat (During Final Combat) 39.91%
Victory by seals 23.85%
Victory by Final Combat 23.39%
Victory by closing gates 9.63%
Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 1.38%
Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 0.92%
Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell) 0.92%

About the GOO Performance, Y'Golonac is still the most dangerous one. Poor Nyarlathotep is right now the weakest one. There are three GOOs that have exactly a 50% of defeats, right now:

GOO / Percentage of times the GOO won over the investigators.
Y'Golonac 64.29%
Glaaki 60.00%
Tsathoggua 55.56%
Eihort 55.56%
Atlach-Nacha 54.55%
Abhoth 50.00%
Yog Sothoth 50.00%
Shudde M'ell 50.00%
Cthulhu 44.44%
Yibb-Tstll 44.44%
Yig 41.18%
Hastur 35.29%
Azathoth 31.82%
Ithaqua 30.77%
Shub-Niggurath 30.77%
Nyarlathotep 27.27%

About the GOO / Herald combinations, I am happy to announce that user "Feroz" has defeated the previously unbeaten combination of Eihort / Groth. User "alamogold" has done the same with "Shub-Niggurath / Tulzscha". An anonymous user has won over the "Shudde M'ell / The Dunwich Horror"
combination. Despite all this efforts, the number of GOO/Heralds teams that have not been defeated keeps growing (notice that only combinations that have been played are listed here):

GOO / Herald / Percentage of times the investigators were defeated.
Abhoth The King in Yellow 100.00%
Cthulhu Ghroth 100.00%
Glaaki Ghroth 100.00%
Hastur The Dunwich Horror 100.00%
Hastur Tulzscha 100.00%
Nyarlathotep The King in Yellow 100.00%
Shub-Niggurath Ghroth 100.00%
Shub-Niggurath The Dark Pharaoh 100.00%
Tsathoggua Ghroth 100.00%
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow 100.00%
Tsathoggua Tulzscha 100.00%
Y'Golonac Tulzscha 100.00%
Yibb-Tstll Tulzscha 100.00%
Yog Sothoth Tulzscha 100.00%
Y'Golonac The King in Yellow 75.00%
Atlach-Nacha Ghroth 66.67%
Shudde M'ell The King in Yellow 66.67%
Cthulhu The Dark Pharaoh 50.00%
Cthulhu The Dunwich Horror 50.00%
Cthulhu The King in Yellow 50.00%
Eihort Ghroth 50.00%
Eihort Tulzscha 50.00%
Ithaqua The Dark Pharaoh 50.00%
Shub-Niggurath Tulzscha 50.00%
Shudde M'ell The Dunwich Horror 50.00%
Yig Tulzscha 50.00%
Yog Sothoth The Dunwich Horror 50.00%
Hastur The King in Yellow 42.86%
Atlach-Nacha Tulzscha 40.00%
Azathoth Ghroth 40.00%
Yibb-Tstll Ghroth 33.33%
Nyarlathotep The Dark Pharaoh 16.67%


About the Herald / guardian combinations and the impact in the number of investigators defeats, here you have the numbers:

Type of game / number of sessions/ percentage of investigators defeat.
Herald - Guardian 61 50.82%
Herald - No Guardian 31 38.71%
No Herald - Guardian 22 31.82%
No Herald - No Guardian 104 42.31%

Finally, the expansions usage. I am surprised about the big number of games using Kingsport Horror (I am still waiting for my copy!).

Dunwich Horror 54.59%
Kingsport Horror 48.62%
The Dark Pharaoh 39.91%
The Yellow King 49.08%

That's all for the moment.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/169835.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/169835.page GMT
-Rob]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/170174.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/170174.page GMT
I accidentally put in my name as Tib in one field instead of Tibs. Cursed laptop. If you don't fix that, no big deal. However:

My (Tibs) most recent game was Hastur and the Dunwich Horror herald. I forgot to put a check box that the Dunwich Horror awoke. Could you change that please? This is only because I'm interested to see how the herald affects how often the Dunwich Horror awakens. Thanks!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/170559.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/170559.page GMT
Yes, probably that is a mistake. I also have noticed some (2 or 3) sessions where the reported number of investigators is just "1" and the number of devoured investigators is very high (like 4 or something). Anyway, I think the number of correct games will be much bigger, so at the end the stats will not be too much affected by these errors, I hope.

By the way, I have corrected the two things you mention from your games.

@Acebob,

Here it is the stat you were demanding.

# of investigators / Percentage of investigator wins / number of investigator wins.
8 33.33% 1
7 50.00% 1
6 53.33% 8
5 68.42% 13
4 63.22% 55
3 55.32% 26
2 42.50% 17
1 60.00% 3

I would ignore the results for 1 investigator as I think those are mistakes. However I would have bet different numbers for 4 and 5 investigators... I was expecting the "optimal" chances for 4 investigators, since 5 is already spawning two monsters per gate.

If you (or any other forum user) have any other suggestion for stats, just let me know and I will see what can I do.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171240.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171240.page GMT
Yup. The first two sessions I reported were mistakes. I meant to put 4 investigators used 1 devoured, but because I'm very smart I did it in reverse.

Also: I have a feeling this would require a much more vast undertaking but I'd really be interested in a few drop downs that let you name the investigators you used. As the sample size grew, you could find out (loosely) not simply the successfulness of particular investigators, but, more interestingly, which investigators appear to work best with others.

Thanks for all your work. This is interesting stuff.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171256.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171256.page GMT
Yup. The first two sessions I reported were mistakes. I meant to put 4 investigators used 1 devoured, but because I'm very smart I did it in reverse.

Also: I have a feeling this would require a much more vast undertaking but I'd really be interested in a few drop downs that let you name the investigators you used. As the sample size grew, you could find out (loosely) not simply the successfulness of particular investigators, but, more interestingly, which investigators appear to work best with others.

Thanks for all your work. This is interesting stuff.[/quote]

Ok, thanks for letting me know; I have corrected those two games now. I was wondering about them and, if they were true, it would be one hell of a game: just one investigator being devoured four times!

Hmmm, about the investigators, maybe the best way to add them would be to have one "check box" for each existing investigator, so you can mark the ones that have been used. Is there an online list with all the existing investigator names? If so I will modify the form now. Otherwise it will have to wait until I arrive home and find some time...]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171263.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171263.page GMT Vincent Lee, the Physician
Daisy Walker, the Librarian
Jacqueline Fine, the Psychic
Michael McGlen, the Gangster
Wendy Adams, the Urchin
Kate Winthrop, the Scientist
Marie Lambeau, the Entertainer
Sister Mary, the Nun
Harvey Walters, the Professor
Rita Young, the Athlete
Lola Young, the Actress
Wilson Richards, the Handyman
Charlie Kane, the Politician
"Ashcan" Pete, the Drifter
Mark Harrigan, the Soldier
Darrell Simmons, the Photographer
Gloria Goldberg, the Author
Mandy Thompson, the Researcher
Tony Morgan, the Bounty Hunter
Lily Chen, the Martial Artist
Rex Murphy, the Reporter
Leo Anderson, the Expedition Leader
Jenny Barnes, the Dilettante
Dexter Drake, the Magician
Monterey Jack, the Archaeologist
Diane Stanley, the Redeemed Cultist
Luke Robinson, the Dreamer
Carolyn Fern, the Psychologist
Joe Diamond, the Private Investigator
Bob Jenkins, the Salesman
Jim Culver, the Musician

Whew. That's too many.
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I have included them in the form. Let's see how this turns out. I must say that one of my favourite characters is Wilson Richards... but I have always an ugly luck with him.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171278.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171278.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171305.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171305.page GMT

My Cthulhu/Groth/Hypnos game had Joe Diamond and Marie Lambeau;

The Eihort/Green Flame/Nodens game had Rex Murphy and Lily Chen;

The Atlach-Nacha/Nemesis Moon/Hypnos game had Luke Robinson and Daisy Walker (and someone became Captain of the White Ship);

The Y'Golonac/Green flame/Bast game had Wendy Adams and Lola Hayes;

The Yibb-Tstll/Nemesis Moon/Nodens game had Tony Morgan and Charlie Kane.


Don't remember any others. For ease of finding these games, The first one I listed was the most recent one I played, the others descending to the least recent one.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171630.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171630.page GMT
If the game is lost during the Final Battle, does # of Investigators equal # of Devourings?]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171712.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/171712.page GMT
Here are some more spelling corrections:
"The terror level rose to 10" instead of "rised." Perhaps even "reached 10."

The redeemed cultist's name is Diana, not Diane]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/172216.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/172216.page GMT Thanks for your corrections, I have included them (lol at "rised" )

@jgt7771
I was referring to investigators devoured before the final battle. I have updated the form to clarify that.

@Victimizer
I have updated your entries with the information provided.

@All,

I will write during today the additional "logic" I need to process the data related to the investigators (also necessary for obtaining more information about the expansions usage).]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/172726.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/172726.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/173045.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/173045.page GMT I was referring to investigators devoured before the final battle. I have updated the form to clarify that.[/quote]
Then my latest entry should have "# of devourings" = 0. All 4 Investigators made it to the Final Battle, but none of them went home.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/173236.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/173236.page GMT
jgt7771, your session has been corrected now.



By the way, as you can see in this [url=http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/346917]picture[/url], I have finally received Kingsport Horror. It fits barely my table! I hope to play the first game this weekend...]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/174126.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/174126.page GMT
Ah, so you were the guy who did the Dunwich non-Euclidean [url=http://boardgamegeek.com/image/169575]spiral[/url].]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/174423.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/174423.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/176226.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/176226.page GMT
Hi, I have checked and the entries are there. I don't know why they don't show up on the form page, but for sure they will be taken into account in the statistics.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181749.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181749.page GMT
Ah, so you were the guy who did the Dunwich non-Euclidean [url=http://boardgamegeek.com/image/169575]spiral[/url].[/quote]

Yes, the same one

I hope that it will be the first picture in BGG to get 1000 thumbs up, but it will take a long time yet, we will see...]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181757.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181757.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181760.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181760.page GMT
Sorry for the lack of news, but at last I have to say that the promised web site is up. It is far from finished,
but, at least, it is something.

http://personales.ya.com/mcflainez/Arkham_Stats/Welcome.html

I will publish new stats next Monday.

Please, keep in mind that the URL will most surely change, so continue checking this thread to see if there are news.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181782.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181782.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181863.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/181863.page GMT
Cthulhu, Nyarlathotep and Yig are the most popular GOOs, while Yibb-Tstll is the least preferred one.

GOO / % of sessions
Cthulhu 9.54%
Nyarlathotep 9.54%
Yig 9.54%
Azathoth 8.83%
Shub-Niggurath 7.07%
Hastur 6.36%
Shudde M'ell 5.65%
Yog Sothoth 5.30%
Y'Golonac 5.30%
Abhoth 5.30%
Atlach-Nacha 4.95%
Ithaqua 4.95%
Tsathoggua 4.95%
Glaaki 4.59%
Eihort 4.24%
Yibb-Tstll 3.89%


Y'Golonac is the most dangerous one, while Shub-Niggurath is the easiest for the investigators.

GOO / % of investigator's defeat
Y'Golonac 66.67%
Atlach-Nacha 57.14%
Shudde M'ell 56.25%
Glaaki 53.85%
Eihort 50.00%
Abhoth 46.67%
Tsathoggua 42.86%
Cthulhu 40.74%
Yog Sothoth 40.00%
Yibb-Tstll 36.36%
Hastur 33.33%
Azathoth 32.00%
Nyarlathotep 29.63%
Yig 29.63%
Ithaqua 28.57%
Shub-Niggurath 25.00%


57.24% of the games didn't use an Herald. Among the heralds, this is the popularity chart:

Herald / % of sessions (with herald) being used
The King in Yellow 26.45%
Tulzscha 26.45%
Ghroth 22.31%
The Dunwich Horror 13.22%
The Dark Pharaoh 11.57%


The following combinations of GOOs / Heralds have not yet reported as defeated (and someone has tried):

GOO / Herald
Abhoth The King in Yellow
Cthulhu Ghroth
Eihort The King in Yellow
Glaaki Ghroth
Hastur The Dunwich Horror
Hastur Tulzscha
Shub-Niggurath Ghroth
Shub-Niggurath The Dark Pharaoh
Tsathoggua Ghroth
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow
Y'Golonac Tulzscha

61.48% of the games didn't use a guardian. This is the guardian's popularity chart:

Guardian / % of sessions (with guardian) being used
Hypnos 33.94%
Nodens 33.94%
Bast 32.11%

Around 60% of the games end with investigator victory. The complete breakdown of results is:

Game result / % of sessions
Defeat (During Final Combat) 37.10%
Victory by seals 26.50%
Victory by Final Combat 23.67%
Victory by closing gates 9.89%
Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 1.06%
Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 0.71%
Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell) 0.71%
Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team" 0.35%

Dunwich Horror is the most popular expansion:

Expansions / % of sessions using it:
Dunwich Horror 56.54%
Kingsport Horror 47.70%
The Dark Pharaoh 39.58%
The Yellow King 49.47%


5 investigators seems to be the optimum number for achieving the victory:

number of investigators / % of victories
8 33.33%
7 50.00%
6 50.00%
5 70.83%
4 65.87%
3 58.18%
2 47.92%
1 66.67%

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Great work on the stats !

Any chance of getting the number of sessions listed somewhere? As a running counter (increases as sessions are added)?

Heck, even if you could post the # of session used to calculate the percentages each time you post an update, that'd be sweet !]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/187937.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/187937.page GMT
Great work on the stats !

Any chance of getting the number of sessions listed somewhere? As a running counter (increases as sessions are added)?

Heck, even if you could post the # of session used to calculate the percentages each time you post an update, that'd be sweet ![/quote]

You are right, I will do that.

The stats above are calculated with an input of 283 sessions.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/187969.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/187969.page GMT
Cool !]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/187975.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/187975.page GMT [/quote]

Sorry to get slightly off topic here, but doesn't Walking the Ley Lines state that all open gates are closed? Since all open gates being closed is a victory condition, how does WtLL [i]not[/i] result in a victory?]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/188638.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/188638.page GMT [/quote]

Sorry to get slightly off topic here, but doesn't Walking the Ley Lines state that all open gates are closed? Since all open gates being closed is a victory condition, how does WtLL [i]not[/i] result in a victory?[/quote]

If I am not wrong, to win by closing gates, you need to:

1) Have no open gates on the board.
2) Have a number of gate trophies equal or bigger than the number of investigators.

Walking the Ley Lines fulfills condition 1, but does not guarantee condition 2.

Please, anybody, correct me if I am wrong.

Regards!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/188639.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/188639.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/188699.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/188699.page GMT
Oh, and you might consider including a drop-down for the League scenario used. I'm sure people may find themselves using them long after League play has expired.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/189078.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/189078.page GMT [/quote]

Sorry to get slightly off topic here, but doesn't Walking the Ley Lines state that all open gates are closed? Since all open gates being closed is a victory condition, how does WtLL [i]not[/i] result in a victory?[/quote]

If I am not wrong, to win by closing gates, you need to:

1) Have no open gates on the board.
2) Have a number of gate trophies equal or bigger than the number of investigators.

Walking the Ley Lines fulfills condition 1, but does not guarantee condition 2.

Please, anybody, correct me if I am wrong.

Regards![/quote]

How embarrassing for me.
I never actually knew about part 2 of the win by closing gates rule.
I've just re-read the rules, and you're right - I don't know how I missed that on all my previous rule readings.

]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/189771.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/189771.page GMT I never actually knew about part 2 of the win by closing gates rule.
I've just re-read the rules, and you're right - I don't know how I missed that on all my previous rule readings. [/quote]

Don't be embarrased for that... in my group, we were playing [i]for months[/i] (maybe even more than one year), with the "sneak" rule wrong; we didn't know that, while trying to evade a monster, in case you fail the roll, the monster inflicts you damage just as if you failed a combat check. The difference in game's difficulty is big with that rule.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/190295.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/190295.page GMT
When can we expect new percentages ?]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/199858.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/199858.page GMT
When can we expect new percentages ?[/quote]

Hi, don't worry, I have already received some requests to correct data, so I will correct that aswell.

About the new percentages, I will run the reports tomorrow morning (my time zone is GMT+1). Tomorrow or this Friday I would like to include new reports about investigator usage.

Cheers!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/199870.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/199870.page GMT
Fresh stats, calculated using a sample of 337 sessions.

This time the on-going AH League is having a big impact, since Yig and Nyarlathotep are the most popular GOOs right now. Yibb-Tstll and Eihort need more attention...

GOO / % of sessions used
Yig 10.68%
Nyarlathotep 10.09%
Cthulhu 9.20%
Azathoth 8.31%
Hastur 6.53%
Shub-Niggurath 6.53%
Shudde M'ell 6.23%
Y'Golonac 5.64%
Yog Sothoth 5.34%
Abhoth 5.34%
Ithaqua 5.04%
Glaaki 4.45%
Atlach-Nacha 4.45%
Tsathoggua 4.45%
Yibb-Tstll 3.86%
Eihort 3.86%

Y'Golonac is the thoughtest GOO, winning more than six times per ten games.

GOO / % of investigator's defeat.
Y'Golonac 63.16%
Glaaki 60.00%
Atlach-Nacha 60.00%
Shudde M'ell 47.62%
Eihort 46.15%
Abhoth 44.44%
Tsathoggua 40.00%
Yog Sothoth 38.89%
Cthulhu 38.71%
Yibb-Tstll 38.46%
Azathoth 35.71%
Hastur 31.82%
Ithaqua 29.41%
Yig 27.78%
Shub-Niggurath 27.27%
Nyarlathotep 26.47%

40.65% of the games are using Heralds, Tulzscha being the most popular one:

Tulzscha 27.74%
The King in Yellow 27.01%
Ghroth 21.17%
The Dunwich Horror 13.14%
The Dark Pharaoh 10.95%

There are 40 combinations reported of GOO / Heralds. From all this combinations, the most popular is Hastur with the King in Yellow, followed closely by Y'Golonac - Tulzscha and Nyarlathotep - The Dark Pharaoh.

From all this combinations, these are the ones that at least someone has tried but that nobody has been able to defeat:

Abhoth The King in Yellow
Atlach-Nacha The Dunwich Horror
Cthulhu Ghroth
Eihort The King in Yellow
Glaaki Ghroth
Hastur The Dunwich Horror
Hastur Tulzscha
Shub-Niggurath Ghroth
Shub-Niggurath The Dark Pharaoh
Tsathoggua Ghroth
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow

36.80 % of the games used the help of some guardian. This is the breakdown:

Nodens 34.68%
Hypnos 33.06%
Bast 32.26%

Less than 40% of the games end with investigator's defeat. Here is a detailed view of the results:

Defeat (During Final Combat) 36.01%
Victory by seals 27.38%
Victory by Final Combat 23.81%
Victory by closing gates 9.82%
Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 1.19%
Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell, not during Final Combat) 0.89%
Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 0.60%
Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team" 0.30%

But... but... Someone has reported a !!!Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team"!!!! That result was entered by Kormith. Hey, Kormith, is that true? Could you please give us some details about the game? I am asking because that is something I have never seen in all of my games. In fact, people don't even bother... probably that is the reason why I have not seen that. Anyway, congratulations for being the first one reporting that game result!

Dunwich horror is the most common expansion:

Dunwich Horror 57.14%
Kingsport Horror 44.94%
The Dark Pharaoh 38.69%
The Yellow King 45.83%


Now, 4 investigators seems to be the optimum number for achieving the victory:

8 25.00%
7 42.86%
6 59.26%
5 65.52%
4 67.59%
3 57.81%
2 50.88%
1 66.67%

That's all for the moment.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/201078.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/201078.page GMT
It would be cool to add a page for 'if you want the best chance of winning use these...' which you could split into sections such as monster, characters, items, tactics etc. I realise that is a lot of work though!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/201096.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/201096.page GMT
Better idea:
Percentage of ancient one wins with base set, base set+single expansion and base+all expansions.


Though really, the stats you offer now are interesting enough, this was just something I suddenly thought of. Thanks again for your work!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/201514.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/201514.page GMT
Better idea:
Percentage of ancient one wins with base set, base set+single expansion and base+all expansions.
[/quote]
The more stats the better as far as I am concerned. A really great thread. My favorite.

I use the undefeated GOOs and heralds combos as next game challenges. Right now 0-2.
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No Expansions Victory 70.59%
No Expansions Defeat 29.41%

1 Expansion Victory 59.76%
1 Expansion Defeat 40.24%

2 Expansions Victory 68.06%
2 Expansions Defeat 31.94%

3 Expansions Victory 56.36%
3 Expansions Defeat 43.64%

4 Expansions Victory 47.46%
4 Expansions Defeat 52.54%

The difference in difficulty between "no expansions" and "all expansions" is quite big!. I also have breakdowns of the different results depending on the number of expansions:

No Expansions Victory by seals 32.35%
No Expansions Victory by Final Combat 27.94%
No Expansions Defeat (During Final Combat) 25.00%
No Expansions Victory by closing gates 10.29%
No Expansions Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 4.41%


1 Expansion Defeat (During Final Combat) 39.02%
1 Expansion Victory by Final Combat 28.05%
1 Expansion Victory by seals 23.17%
1 Expansion Victory by closing gates 8.54%
1 Expansion Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 1.22%


2 Expansion Victory by seals 36.11%
2 Expansion Defeat (During Final Combat) 26.39%
2 Expansion Victory by Final Combat 19.44%
2 Expansion Victory by closing gates 12.50%
2 Expansion Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team" 1.39%
2 Expansion Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 1.39%
2 Expansion Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell, not during Final Combat) 1.39%
2 Expansion Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 1.39%


3 Expansion Defeat (During Final Combat) 41.82%
3 Expansion Victory by Final Combat 27.27%
3 Expansion Victory by seals 23.64%
3 Expansion Victory by closing gates 5.45%
3 Expansion Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell, not during Final Combat) 1.82%


4 Expansion Defeat (During Final Combat) 50.85%
4 Expansion Victory by seals 20.34%
4 Expansion Victory by Final Combat 15.25%
4 Expansion Victory by closing gates 11.86%
4 Expansion Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell, not during Final Combat) 1.69%


Thanks for your suggestions, victimizer!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/202584.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/202584.page GMT
Also: Perhaps the use of epic battle cards could be a choice on the form itself - some people might be using them separate from kingsport, or not at all with Kingsport, and with data on a few games using these, a comparison could be made between the difference in percentage of investigator wins/defeats during final combat with and without the epic battle variant.

*edit*

Also, now that you have a site, I think this thread deserves a sticky. Who would also proclaim this opinion?

Oh and, McFlainez, you could also add your sites' url to the first post, that'd make it easier for new-comers.

*edit*
And I've noticed that on your website, one cannot look at all of the games played. I'm not sure if it is possible to embed the chart a second time so that it displays all of the games the way the google chart in the first post of this thread does, but that would be useful for some people, or at least a link to the entire thing from your website. Not too important minor quibble, but could be useful at some point, also for people that try to interprete the data in other ways than the numerical.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/202681.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/202681.page GMT
[quote=MCFlainez]
2 Expansion Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team" 1.39%
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This person is arguably more awesome even than you. Has there been a match report?]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/202858.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/202858.page GMT I like the statistics a lot. I just entered the game I did yesterday and I will soon post another few. I've got an Access file with the last games I made at home, mainly because I want to defeat every AO with every combination of Herald and Guardian possible (which are 240 combinations as of now; and I won't count Victories in Final Battle). I'll make sure to record defeats as well from now on, so your statistics are not distorted by only reporting victories.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/202935.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/202935.page GMT Too many stickys now.
Is there a way to folderize the stickies into a sticky folder called, [b]Look here first [/b] or [b]All Our stickies [/b]and that comes up as changed? If that is the case, I vote for this being a sticky in that folder. It's really my favorite thread (after Kevin's rules, of course).

I'd also like to see strange eons in a sticky file with all its categories. I'd also like to see a new category in that called [b]custom heralds [/b]and change the tile of custom GOO's and heralds to just [b]Custom GOO's[/b]

I don't know if that can be done or not, just a suggestion.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/203016.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/203016.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/203031.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/203031.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/214215.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/214215.page GMT
First of all sorry for not posting anything these last days, but I was first on vacation and then busy at work. I have been doing some improvements to this "arkham stats" thing, but it is all related to the database and the workflow I follow to extract the data, so it makes my life easier, although you will not notice anything different or new.

Said this, let's go with the updated stats based on 429 games (almost 100 sessions over the last time).

MOST POPULAR GOO: Not big changes on the top of the list, Nyarlathotep and Yig are the most popular followed closely by Cthulhu. Atlach-Nacha and Glaaki are losing popularity and now they are on the bottom along with the never-popular Eihort

GOO / % of sessions
Nyarlathotep 11.16%
Yig 11.16%
Cthulhu 9.07%
Azathoth 7.44%
Hastur 6.51%
Yog Sothoth 6.05%
Shudde M'ell 6.05%
Shub-Niggurath 5.81%
Ithaqua 5.58%
Tsathoggua 5.58%
Y'Golonac 5.58%
Abhoth 4.88%
Yibb-Tstll 3.95%
Atlach-Nacha 3.72%
Eihort 3.72%
Glaaki 3.72%


MOST DANGEROUS GOO: Glaaki is now on the lead (was second before). The previous champion has dropped to the 4th place (Y'Golonac). On the bottom of the list Shub-Niggurath has recovered a bit, Yig has dropped a place and poor Nyarlathotep has lost a big chunk of percentage in victories (from 26.47% to 18.75%).

GOO / % of investigator's defeat.
Glaaki 62.50%
Tsathoggua 58.33%
Atlach-Nacha 56.25%
Y'Golonac 54.17%
Shudde M'ell 53.85%
Abhoth 52.38%
Yog Sothoth 38.46%
Eihort 37.50%
Cthulhu 35.90%
Azathoth 34.38%
Hastur 32.14%
Yibb-Tstll 29.41%
Shub-Niggurath 28.00%
Ithaqua 25.00%
Yig 25.00%
Nyarlathotep 18.75%

MOST POPULAR HERALDS: Less games are being played with heralds; from 40.65% to 36.28%. The popularity of the Heralds is exactly the same with small changes in the percentages:

Tulzscha 26.92%
The King in Yellow 25.64%
Ghroth 22.44%
The Dunwich Horror 14.74%
The Dark Pharaoh 10.26%

UNBEATEN COMBINATIONS: There are 42 combinations of GOO/Herald (2 more than the last time). The most popular one is still Hastur with The King in Yellow, followed very closely by Nyarlathotep - The Dark Pharaoh.

From all this combinations, these are the ones that at least someone has tried but that nobody has been able to defeat:

Abhoth The King in Yellow 100.00%
Atlach-Nacha The Dunwich Horror 100.00%
Eihort The King in Yellow 100.00%
Glaaki Ghroth 100.00%
Hastur The Dunwich Horror 100.00%
Hastur Tulzscha 100.00%
Shub-Niggurath Ghroth 100.00%
Shub-Niggurath The Dark Pharaoh 100.00%
Tsathoggua Ghroth 100.00%
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow 100.00%

From the previous list of unbeaten combinations, only one (Cthulhu - Ghroth) has been successfully confronted as reported by Morgaln. With a team composed by Carolyn Fern, Kate Winthrop, Michael McGlen and Tony Morgan he achieved a victory by seals. Congratulations, Morgaln!!!

MOST POPULAR GUARDIANS: Just like the heralds, there is a small drop in guardians usage, from 36.8% to 34.19%. Hypnos and Nodens have switched positions on this list, but things are really balanced.

Hypnos 34.69%
Nodens 34.01%
Bast 31.29%

GAME RESULTS: Small changes in the percentages, but nothing really important here.

Defeat (During Final Combat) 34.03%
Victory by seals 30.54%
Victory by Final Combat 21.91%
Victory by closing gates 10.49%
Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 1.63%
Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell, not during Final Combat) 0.70%
Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 0.47%
Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team" 0.23%

EXPANSIONS: Also, no big news here, the percentages are more or less the same:

Dunwich Horror 58.04%
Kingsport Horror 41.49%
The Dark Pharaoh 39.39%
The Yellow King 41.72%

NUMBER OF INVESTIGATORS/VICTORY: "4 investigators" is the magic number, it seems. Its percentage is getting better and better and is leaving behind the "5 investigator".

8 25.00%
7 55.56%
6 58.62%
5 66.67%
4 70.37%
3 59.76%
2 50.00%
1 66.67%

NUMBER OF EXPANSIONS / VICTORY: Playing with no expansions seems easy as cake. There is a boost of 6% since the last time in victories.

No Expansions Victory 76.29%
No Expansions Defeat 23.71%

With one expansion, things seem not so easy. There is a 4% drop in victories this time.

1 Expansion Victory 55.66%
1 Expansion Defeat 44.34%

Surprisingly, when adding more expansions, the percentage of victories has increased:

2 Expansions Victory 69.32%
2 Expansions Defeat 30.68%

3 Expansions Victory 59.32%
3 Expansions Defeat 40.68%

Using all 4 expansions is the hardest option. Can't wait for the Black Goat of the woods!

4 Expansions Victory 51.90%
4 Expansions Defeat 48.10%

That is all for the moment. I *hope* to bring some new things in the coming days. Sorry, but I can't promise anything about when...]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/220795.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/220795.page GMT It would also be nice to know how many people (or games) were involved for each record.

It's easy to say, e.g., "100% defeats with Hastur+Tulzscha" if the combo has been tested just once.

I'll be glad ti contribute if I just remember to write down the data after my next games... ]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/220855.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/220855.page GMT UNBEATEN COMBINATIONS: There are 42 combinations of GOO/Herald (2 more than the last time). The most popular one is still Hastur with The King in Yellow, followed very closely by Nyarlathotep - The Dark Pharaoh.
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Why aren't there 80 combos? 16 AO times 5 Heralds?

Or are you saying 42 have been played? That means 38 are unbeaten (but apparently most of those haven't even been tried.) If that is the case, I'd like to see the whole list of unbeaten combos to increase the challenge.

And if you play more than one herald, I think 1920 combos.

Keep up the good work. I always enjoy your work and report.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/221342.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/221342.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/221360.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/221360.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/232082.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/232082.page GMT
GOO / % of investigator's defeat.
Glaaki 62.50%
Tsathoggua 58.33%
Atlach-Nacha 56.25%
Y'Golonac 54.17%
Shudde M'ell 53.85%
Abhoth 52.38%
Yog Sothoth 38.46%
Eihort 37.50%
Cthulhu 35.90%
Azathoth 34.38%
Hastur 32.14%
Yibb-Tstll 29.41%
Shub-Niggurath 28.00%
Ithaqua 25.00%
Yig 25.00%
Nyarlathotep 18.75%[/quote]

Wow! This was the first time I read this thread, and I'm quite surprised that Glakki is the most dangerous GOO. I would've predicted he'd be more in the middle, as I've never had that many problems with him, so this really surprised me. Great job with the stats!!]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/247411.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/247411.page GMT
Note that there isn't many games against Glaaki, so it isn't yet very trustworthy conclusion.

Apparently there is only 16 games against Glaaki recorded at the time of last update so there is very big random factor involved in statistics right now.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/247565.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/247565.page GMT . Similarly, always keep getting weird Mythos Card combos against him. 3 tries, yet to seal/close him .

As for the flipside, I'm guessing Tsathoggua's difficulty is somewhat due to the league scenario, since my games against it have always been a breeze (not participating in the league). Shudde M'ell is another that I've yet to lose against, only once has he even woken (again, 3 tries, 1 even with a Herald).


Also, MCFlainez, I think the bump of this thread is a subtle hint that people NEED more stats, soon ! (no rush I'm sure, silly real-life can make you [b]delayed[/b] )]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/247814.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/247814.page GMT
First of all, I want to apologize for the lack of new stats during this last weeks... as Dam has said, I have been "delayed" by some other important things.

Second, I would like to say "thank you" to all the people that has been posting their game sessions in the form, even when there were no news from me... Thanks!

Finally, I want to post here again the url you can use to submit your game results and, that way, contribute to these stats:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pYsj88WqxwxBt5mRULVwXbw

And now, the stats (resulting from 533):

[b]Most popular GOO![/b]

Not big changes here. The only thing worth metioning is that Glaaki has experimented a boost in popularity.

= Nyarlathotep 11.07%
= Yig 10.51%
= Cthulhu 8.82%
+ Hastur 7.50%
- Azathoth 7.32%
+ Shudde M'ell 6.19%
- Yog Sothoth 6.00%
+ Ithaqua 6.00%
- Shub-Niggurath 5.82%
= Tsathoggua 5.82%
= Y'Golonac 5.07%
++++ Glaaki 4.32%
- Abhoth 4.32%
= Atlach-Nacha 3.94%
-- Yibb-Tstll 3.75%
- Eihort 3.56%

[b]Most dangerous GOO![/b]

There is quite a bit of movement here. Atlach-Nacha is now dominating the list, Cthulhu and Yibb-Tstll have improved and Tsathoggua is the one that has lost more places.

++ Atlach-Nacha 61.90%
- Glaaki 60.87%
+ Y'Golonac 55.56%
+ Shudde M'ell 48.48%
--- Tsathoggua 48.39%
= Abhoth 43.48%
++ Cthulhu 42.55%
- Yog Sothoth 37.50%
- Eihort 36.84%
++ Yibb-Tstll 35.00%
- Azathoth 33.33%
- Hastur 32.50%
= Shub-Niggurath 29.03%
= Ithaqua 28.13%
= Yig 25.00%
= Nyarlathotep 20.34%

[b]Most popular Heralds![/b]

There is a small boost in Heralds usage, not it is at 38.46% of the sessions... and the king in yellow is again the most popular.

+ The King in Yellow 25.37%
- Tulzscha 23.41%
+ The Dunwich Horror 19.51%
- Ghroth 18.54%
= The Dark Pharaoh 13.17%

[b]Unbeaten Combos![/b]

Ok, there were some comments about how this stat is created. Yes, I am using only the combinations that somebody has tried and reported in the form. That means that there are combinations that nobody has tried yet. Also, it means that some of the unbeaten combinations only have been confronted once. Knowing this, I still think this is a fun stat; what do you think about it?

One thing that can be done is to create a list of every goo / herald / guardian combination and keep a track of which ones have been defeated. I will look into this, but right now I don't have the time for it, sorry.

The stat itself: There are 53 combinations reported, 9 more than the last time. Now, there are 14 unbeaten combinations:

Abhoth The King in Yellow
Atlach-Nacha The Dunwich Horror
New! Atlach-Nacha The King in Yellow
Glaaki Ghroth
New! Hastur Ghroth
New! Hastur The Dark Pharaoh
Hastur The Dunwich Horror
Shub-Niggurath Ghroth
Shub-Niggurath The Dark Pharaoh
Tsathoggua Ghroth
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow
New! Y'Golonac The Dunwich Horror
New! Yig The King in Yellow
New! Yog Sothoth Ghroth

From the previous unbeaten combinations 2 have been defeated:

Eihort with The King in Yellow by [b]johnwatersfan[/b] (first reported) and [b]Tibs[/b].
Hastur with Tulzscha by [b]Superchemist[/b] (first reported) and... [b]Tibs[/b] again!

[b]Guardians popularity![/b]

A small boost in their popularity: 34.61% but no changes in the list.

= Hypnos 36.22%
= Nodens 34.59%
= Bast 29.19%


[b]Game results![/b]

No big news here, I think:

Defeat (During Final Combat) 34.90%
Victory by seals 30.96%
Victory by Final Combat 21.58%
Victory by closing gates 10.13%
Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 1.31%
Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell, not during Final Combat) 0.56%
Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 0.38%
Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team" 0.19%

[b]Expansions usage![/b]

A small boost for Dunwich Horror and The Dark Pharaoh.

Dunwich Horror 61.16%
Kingsport Horror 41.09%
The Dark Pharaoh 42.78%
The Yellow King 40.53%

[b]Victories depending on the number of investigators![/b]

Small variations in the percentages.

8 25.00%
7 55.56%
6 59.38%
5 67.39%
4 69.26%
3 57.69%
2 51.11%
1 75.00%

[b]Victories depending on the number of expansions in play![/b]

No Expansions Victory 72.81%
No Expansions Defeat 27.19%

1 Expansion Victory 60.29% (Big increase here)
1 Expansion Defeat 39.71%

2 Expansions Victory 70.00%
2 Expansions Defeat 30.00%

3 Expansions Victory 59.32%
3 Expansions Defeat 40.68%

4 Expansions Defeat 50.00%
4 Expansions Victory 50.00%


That's all for the moment! I hope to be able to keep a regular flow of stats during the next days.]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/259172.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/259172.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/259182.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/259182.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/259293.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/259293.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/259303.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/259303.page GMT
I think Atlach-Nacha + BGotW Herald might dominate that list in the near future. You can set the clock: You got 12 turns + each elder sign + each broken seal... (not counting south church encounters or Marie Lambeau or things i dunno about yet ) ...then game over.


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[b]Investigators Popularity![/b]

And Mandy Thompson is truly dominating this list. Taking into account my preferences about the investigators, I am a bit surprised about some of the numbers: Mark Harrigan is well ranked, but Leo Anderson is doing pretty poorly as an example... And what is going on with Lily Chen? I know she is good character (and good looking also ) but she is from the last expansion yet she is at a 4th place!

Investigator Sessions
Mandy Thompson 71
Darrell Simmons 52
Dexter Drake 51
Lily Chen 47
Carolyn Fern 45
Ashcan Pete 44
Joe Diamond 42
Mark Harrigan 42
Jacqueline Fine 41
Michael McGlen 40
Harvey Walters 39
Gloria Goldberg 38
Kate Winthrop 38
Jenny Barnes 37
Diana Stanley 36
Vicent Lee 35
Wilson Richards 35
Daisy Walker 34
Bob Jenkins 33
Tony Morgan 32
Monterey_Jack 31
Lola Young 30
Rita Young 30
Sister Mary 29
Amanda Sharpe 28
Luke Robinson 28
Rex Murphy 27
Leo Anderson 26
Jim Culver 25
Charlie Kane 22
Marie Lambeau 22
Wendy Adams 22

Expect to see an analysis between investigators an victories soon (but not today )
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[b]Investigators Popularity![/b]

And Mandy Thompson is truly dominating this list. Taking into account my preferences about the investigators, I am a bit surprised about some of the numbers: Mark Harrigan is well ranked, but Leo Anderson is doing pretty poorly as an example... And what is going on with Lily Chen? I know she is good character (and good looking also ) but she is from the last expansion yet she is at a 4th place!

Investigator Sessions
Mandy Thompson 71
Darrell Simmons 52
Dexter Drake 51
[/quote]

Go Dexter! Go!

Now that was a surprise to me.

-Mariana the ex-nun cultist]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/260450.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/260450.page GMT
Having just completed Join the Winning Team, I object to it being classified as a "defeat". I mean, come on, read the effing card "You [b]WIN[/b] the game" . Okay, so the others lose, but a win's a win, no ? Oh, I agree thematically it's weird as hell, especially since I did against Azathoth, but from a gameplay POV, and given its difficulty, it's definately up there in the challenge it presents. If 3 of 4 investigators get killed in the Final Combat but the GOO is defeated, I'm sure the survivor will posthumously honor the fallen . Why should it be any different here?

Lowdown on how it all went down:

Solo game, random chars (as always), drew Leo Anderson as the first one (4 investigators), started with Zebulon Whateley AND a Task that had an Ally as one of the reward. Granted, wasn't thinking about JtWT at this point. But the pre-game Mythos card had dropped a 2nd Clue Token on STL and Leo went to grab the tokens, also getting Ruby Standish while at it. Now I was thinking maybe. Would you know it, Bob Jenkins was next, shopping at the Curiositie Shoppe, drew 2 weapons and JtWT. Though about it for a bit, then said what the hell, I'll go for it. Next turn, Kate Winthrop went shopping drew Holy Water, something and Dhol Chants. As they said in South Park just yesterday: "It's ON!" By turn 6, Leo had 4 allies and JtWT. Yes, I had all four investigators working as a team to get Leo to JtWT! First 3 drop-offs went without a hitch, but seemed like the fates were trying to prevent it, as Leo had gotten Blessed by an encounter at the Science Building and failing rolls in the OW gets you LiTaS'd. Anyway, Leo dove into the Abyss, 1st encounter was beneficial only. 2nd one however was monster appears. I'd shifted Leo's Will to max (to prevent insanity and the chance of getting the Ally remover Madness) and that only left him with 1 Fight and no Weapons. Monster turned out to be Color Out of Space, which luckily in this case, will beat you up if your fight is at 1!


I'm so totally counting the game as a win !]]> http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/280901.page http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffgforums/posts/preList/7723/280901.page GMT
Having just completed Join the Winning Team, I object to it being classified as a "defeat". I mean, come on, read the effing card "You [b]WIN[/b] the game" . Okay, so the others lose, but a win's a win, no ? Oh, I agree thematically it's weird as hell, especially since I did against Azathoth, but from a gameplay POV, and given its difficulty, it's definately up there in the challenge it presents. If 3 of 4 investigators get killed in the Final Combat but the GOO is defeated, I'm sure the survivor will posthumously honor the fallen . Why should it be any different here?

Lowdown on how it all went down:

Solo game, random chars (as always), drew Leo Anderson as the first one (4 investigators), started with Zebulon Whateley AND a Task that had an Ally as one of the reward. Granted, wasn't thinking about JtWT at this point. But the pre-game Mythos card had dropped a 2nd Clue Token on STL and Leo went to grab the tokens, also getting Ruby Standish while at it. Now I was thinking maybe. Would you know it, Bob Jenkins was next, shopping at the Curiositie Shoppe, drew 2 weapons and JtWT. Though about it for a bit, then said what the hell, I'll go for it. Next turn, Kate Winthrop went shopping drew Holy Water, something and Dhol Chants. As they said in South Park just yesterday: "It's ON!" By turn 6, Leo had 4 allies and JtWT. Yes, I had all four investigators working as a team to get Leo to JtWT! First 3 drop-offs went without a hitch, but seemed like the fates were trying to prevent it, as Leo had gotten Blessed by an encounter at the Science Building and failing rolls in the OW gets you LiTaS'd. Anyway, Leo dove into the Abyss, 1st encounter was beneficial only. 2nd one however was monster appears. I'd shifted Leo's Will to max (to prevent insanity and the chance of getting the Ally remover Madness) and that only left him with 1 Fight and no Weapons. Monster turned out to be Color Out of Space, which luckily in this case, will beat you up if your fight is at 1!


I'm so totally counting the game as a win ![/quote]


Now that is weird. All four investigators joining forces to complete "Joining the Winning Team" so that Azathoth can arrive before er,... before Azathoth arrives. Like all the kids in town working together to make xmas come sooner

They could have saved themselves a lot of stress and work by just all hanging out in Hibbs, boozing playing the odd round of cards or pool and putting theri feet up until DT 14 hit the fan.

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[quote]Tsathoggua The King in Yellow[/quote]

I'll report it tomorrow how it went... combination will be 4 investigators, DH, KiY, CotDP, selecting investigators from randomly drawn 3. (Total 12 will be drawn and 4 will be selected).



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[quote]Tsathoggua The King in Yellow[/quote]

I'll report it tomorrow how it went... combination will be 4 investigators, DH, KiY, CotDP, selecting investigators from randomly drawn 3. (Total 12 will be drawn and 4 will be selected).



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selecting 1 from each sequential set of three? or 4 from a total of 12?

Only the first strikes me as really being 1 from 3. The second is 1 from12, then 1 from 11, etc and actually gives a much borader choice.

I just realised how much these message boards bring out my inner geek.

- Mariana the ex-nun cultist
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