Arkham Horror Statistics

I like the statistics a lot. I just entered the game I did yesterday and I will soon post another few. I've got an Access file with the last games I made at home, mainly because I want to defeat every AO with every combination of Herald and Guardian possible (which are 240 combinations as of now; and I won't count Victories in Final Battle). I'll make sure to record defeats as well from now on, so your statistics are not distorted by only reporting victories.

Victimizer wrote:Also, now that you have a site, I think this thread deserves a sticky. Who would also proclaim this opinion?

Too many stickys now.
Is there a way to folderize the stickies into a sticky folder called, Look here first or All Our stickies and that comes up as changed? If that is the case, I vote for this being a sticky in that folder. It's really my favorite thread (after Kevin's rules, of course).

I'd also like to see strange eons in a sticky file with all its categories. I'd also like to see a new category in that called custom heralds and change the tile of custom GOO's and heralds to just Custom GOO's

I don't know if that can be done or not, just a suggestion.

I agree, a subforum for stickies would really be best.

Sorry, Victory by "Sacrifices to Make" is supposed to be Victory by "For the Greater Good". My bad!

Hello guys,

First of all sorry for not posting anything these last days, but I was first on vacation and then busy at work. I have been doing some improvements to this "arkham stats" thing, but it is all related to the database and the workflow I follow to extract the data, so it makes my life easier, although you will not notice anything different or new.

Said this, let's go with the updated stats based on 429 games (almost 100 sessions over the last time).

MOST POPULAR GOO: Not big changes on the top of the list, Nyarlathotep and Yig are the most popular followed closely by Cthulhu. Atlach-Nacha and Glaaki are losing popularity and now they are on the bottom along with the never-popular Eihort

GOO / % of sessions
Nyarlathotep 11.16%
Yig 11.16%
Cthulhu 9.07%
Azathoth 7.44%
Hastur 6.51%
Yog Sothoth 6.05%
Shudde M'ell 6.05%
Shub-Niggurath 5.81%
Ithaqua 5.58%
Tsathoggua 5.58%
Y'Golonac 5.58%
Abhoth 4.88%
Yibb-Tstll 3.95%
Atlach-Nacha 3.72%
Eihort 3.72%
Glaaki 3.72%

MOST DANGEROUS GOO: Glaaki is now on the lead (was second before). The previous champion has dropped to the 4th place (Y'Golonac). On the bottom of the list Shub-Niggurath has recovered a bit, Yig has dropped a place and poor Nyarlathotep has lost a big chunk of percentage in victories (from 26.47% to 18.75%).

GOO / % of investigator's defeat.
Glaaki 62.50%
Tsathoggua 58.33%
Atlach-Nacha 56.25%
Y'Golonac 54.17%
Shudde M'ell 53.85%
Abhoth 52.38%
Yog Sothoth 38.46%
Eihort 37.50%
Cthulhu 35.90%
Azathoth 34.38%
Hastur 32.14%
Yibb-Tstll 29.41%
Shub-Niggurath 28.00%
Ithaqua 25.00%
Yig 25.00%
Nyarlathotep 18.75%

MOST POPULAR HERALDS: Less games are being played with heralds; from 40.65% to 36.28%. The popularity of the Heralds is exactly the same with small changes in the percentages:

Tulzscha 26.92%
The King in Yellow 25.64%
Ghroth 22.44%
The Dunwich Horror 14.74%
The Dark Pharaoh 10.26%

UNBEATEN COMBINATIONS: There are 42 combinations of GOO/Herald (2 more than the last time). The most popular one is still Hastur with The King in Yellow, followed very closely by Nyarlathotep - The Dark Pharaoh.

From all this combinations, these are the ones that at least someone has tried but that nobody has been able to defeat:

Abhoth The King in Yellow 100.00%
Atlach-Nacha The Dunwich Horror 100.00%
Eihort The King in Yellow 100.00%
Glaaki Ghroth 100.00%
Hastur The Dunwich Horror 100.00%
Hastur Tulzscha 100.00%
Shub-Niggurath Ghroth 100.00%
Shub-Niggurath The Dark Pharaoh 100.00%
Tsathoggua Ghroth 100.00%
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow 100.00%

From the previous list of unbeaten combinations, only one (Cthulhu - Ghroth) has been successfully confronted as reported by Morgaln. With a team composed by Carolyn Fern, Kate Winthrop, Michael McGlen and Tony Morgan he achieved a victory by seals. Congratulations, Morgaln!!!

MOST POPULAR GUARDIANS: Just like the heralds, there is a small drop in guardians usage, from 36.8% to 34.19%. Hypnos and Nodens have switched positions on this list, but things are really balanced.

Hypnos 34.69%
Nodens 34.01%
Bast 31.29%

GAME RESULTS: Small changes in the percentages, but nothing really important here.

Defeat (During Final Combat) 34.03%
Victory by seals 30.54%
Victory by Final Combat 21.91%
Victory by closing gates 10.49%
Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 1.63%
Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell, not during Final Combat) 0.70%
Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 0.47%
Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team" 0.23%

EXPANSIONS: Also, no big news here, the percentages are more or less the same:

Dunwich Horror 58.04%
Kingsport Horror 41.49%
The Dark Pharaoh 39.39%
The Yellow King 41.72%

NUMBER OF INVESTIGATORS/VICTORY: "4 investigators" is the magic number, it seems. Its percentage is getting better and better and is leaving behind the "5 investigator".

8 25.00%
7 55.56%
6 58.62%
5 66.67%
4 70.37%
3 59.76%
2 50.00%
1 66.67%

NUMBER OF EXPANSIONS / VICTORY: Playing with no expansions seems easy as cake. There is a boost of 6% since the last time in victories.

No Expansions Victory 76.29%
No Expansions Defeat 23.71%

With one expansion, things seem not so easy. There is a 4% drop in victories this time.

1 Expansion Victory 55.66%
1 Expansion Defeat 44.34%

Surprisingly, when adding more expansions, the percentage of victories has increased:

2 Expansions Victory 69.32%
2 Expansions Defeat 30.68%

3 Expansions Victory 59.32%
3 Expansions Defeat 40.68%

Using all 4 expansions is the hardest option. Can't wait for the Black Goat of the woods!

4 Expansions Victory 51.90%
4 Expansions Defeat 48.10%

That is all for the moment. I *hope* to bring some new things in the coming days. Sorry, but I can't promise anything about when...

It's a very, very interesting analysis.
It would also be nice to know how many people (or games) were involved for each record.

It's easy to say, e.g., "100% defeats with Hastur+Tulzscha" if the combo has been tested just once.

I'll be glad ti contribute if I just remember to write down the data after my next games...

MCFlainez wrote:
UNBEATEN COMBINATIONS: There are 42 combinations of GOO/Herald (2 more than the last time). The most popular one is still Hastur with The King in Yellow, followed very closely by Nyarlathotep - The Dark Pharaoh.

Why aren't there 80 combos? 16 AO times 5 Heralds?

Or are you saying 42 have been played? That means 38 are unbeaten (but apparently most of those haven't even been tried.) If that is the case, I'd like to see the whole list of unbeaten combos to increase the challenge.

And if you play more than one herald, I think 1920 combos.

Keep up the good work. I always enjoy your work and report.

Sorry to make a request for an already great system, but would it be possible to list victory% for individual investigators? I ask because of the nerfing discussions and out of general curiosity.

I've sent in some reports, I'm looking forward to the next update! Also, those unbeaten combinations need some attention.

MCFlainez wrote:MOST DANGEROUS GOO: Glaaki is now on the lead (was second before). The previous champion has dropped to the 4th place (Y'Golonac). On the bottom of the list Shub-Niggurath has recovered a bit, Yig has dropped a place and poor Nyarlathotep has lost a big chunk of percentage in victories (from 26.47% to 18.75%).

GOO / % of investigator's defeat.
Glaaki 62.50%
Tsathoggua 58.33%
Atlach-Nacha 56.25%
Y'Golonac 54.17%
Shudde M'ell 53.85%
Abhoth 52.38%
Yog Sothoth 38.46%
Eihort 37.50%
Cthulhu 35.90%
Azathoth 34.38%
Hastur 32.14%
Yibb-Tstll 29.41%
Shub-Niggurath 28.00%
Ithaqua 25.00%
Yig 25.00%
Nyarlathotep 18.75%

Wow! This was the first time I read this thread, and I'm quite surprised that Glakki is the most dangerous GOO. I would've predicted he'd be more in the middle, as I've never had that many problems with him, so this really surprised me. Great job with the stats!!

Kaz Necro wrote:Wow! This was the first time I read this thread, and I'm quite surprised that Glakki is the most dangerous GOO. I would've predicted he'd be more in the middle, as I've never had that many problems with him, so this really surprised me. Great job with the stats!!

Note that there isn't many games against Glaaki, so it isn't yet very trustworthy conclusion.

Apparently there is only 16 games against Glaaki recorded at the time of last update so there is very big random factor involved in statistics right now.

For me Glaaki seriously is the #1 worst GOO. Always seems that "discard 2 Clue Tokens" Servant shows up at the wrong time

. Similarly, always keep getting weird Mythos Card combos against him. 3 tries, yet to seal/close him

.

As for the flipside, I'm guessing Tsathoggua's difficulty is somewhat due to the league scenario, since my games against it have always been a breeze (not participating in the league). Shudde M'ell is another that I've yet to lose against, only once has he even woken (again, 3 tries, 1 even with a Herald).

Also, MCFlainez, I think the bump of this thread is a subtle hint that people NEED more stats, soon

! (no rush I'm sure, silly real-life can make you delayed

)

Hi there!

First of all, I want to apologize for the lack of new stats during this last weeks... as Dam has said, I have been "delayed" by some other important things.

Second, I would like to say "thank you" to all the people that has been posting their game sessions in the form, even when there were no news from me... Thanks!

Finally, I want to post here again the url you can use to submit your game results and, that way, contribute to these stats:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pYsj88WqxwxBt5mRULVwXbw

And now, the stats (resulting from 533):

Most popular GOO!

Not big changes here. The only thing worth metioning is that Glaaki has experimented a boost in popularity.

= Nyarlathotep 11.07%
= Yig 10.51%
= Cthulhu 8.82%
+ Hastur 7.50%
- Azathoth 7.32%
+ Shudde M'ell 6.19%
- Yog Sothoth 6.00%
+ Ithaqua 6.00%
- Shub-Niggurath 5.82%
= Tsathoggua 5.82%
= Y'Golonac 5.07%
++++ Glaaki 4.32%
- Abhoth 4.32%
= Atlach-Nacha 3.94%
-- Yibb-Tstll 3.75%
- Eihort 3.56%

Most dangerous GOO!

There is quite a bit of movement here. Atlach-Nacha is now dominating the list, Cthulhu and Yibb-Tstll have improved and Tsathoggua is the one that has lost more places.

++ Atlach-Nacha 61.90%
- Glaaki 60.87%
+ Y'Golonac 55.56%
+ Shudde M'ell 48.48%
--- Tsathoggua 48.39%
= Abhoth 43.48%
++ Cthulhu 42.55%
- Yog Sothoth 37.50%
- Eihort 36.84%
++ Yibb-Tstll 35.00%
- Azathoth 33.33%
- Hastur 32.50%
= Shub-Niggurath 29.03%
= Ithaqua 28.13%
= Yig 25.00%
= Nyarlathotep 20.34%

Most popular Heralds!

There is a small boost in Heralds usage, not it is at 38.46% of the sessions... and the king in yellow is again the most popular.

+ The King in Yellow 25.37%
- Tulzscha 23.41%
+ The Dunwich Horror 19.51%
- Ghroth 18.54%
= The Dark Pharaoh 13.17%

Unbeaten Combos!

Ok, there were some comments about how this stat is created. Yes, I am using only the combinations that somebody has tried and reported in the form. That means that there are combinations that nobody has tried yet. Also, it means that some of the unbeaten combinations only have been confronted once. Knowing this, I still think this is a fun stat; what do you think about it?

One thing that can be done is to create a list of every goo / herald / guardian combination and keep a track of which ones have been defeated. I will look into this, but right now I don't have the time for it, sorry.

The stat itself: There are 53 combinations reported, 9 more than the last time. Now, there are 14 unbeaten combinations:

Abhoth The King in Yellow
Atlach-Nacha The Dunwich Horror
New! Atlach-Nacha The King in Yellow
Glaaki Ghroth
New! Hastur Ghroth
New! Hastur The Dark Pharaoh
Hastur The Dunwich Horror
Shub-Niggurath Ghroth
Shub-Niggurath The Dark Pharaoh
Tsathoggua Ghroth
Tsathoggua The King in Yellow
New! Y'Golonac The Dunwich Horror
New! Yig The King in Yellow
New! Yog Sothoth Ghroth

From the previous unbeaten combinations 2 have been defeated:

Eihort with The King in Yellow by johnwatersfan (first reported) and Tibs.
Hastur with Tulzscha by Superchemist (first reported) and... Tibs again!

Guardians popularity!

A small boost in their popularity: 34.61% but no changes in the list.

= Hypnos 36.22%
= Nodens 34.59%
= Bast 29.19%

Game results!

No big news here, I think:

Defeat (During Final Combat) 34.90%
Victory by seals 30.96%
Victory by Final Combat 21.58%
Victory by closing gates 10.13%
Defeat by Forfeit (Game not ended) 1.31%
Defeat by Earthquake (Shudde M'ell, not during Final Combat) 0.56%
Defeat by Act III (King in Yellow) 0.38%
Defeat by "Joining the Winning Team" 0.19%

Expansions usage!

A small boost for Dunwich Horror and The Dark Pharaoh.

Dunwich Horror 61.16%
Kingsport Horror 41.09%
The Dark Pharaoh 42.78%
The Yellow King 40.53%

Victories depending on the number of investigators!

Small variations in the percentages.

8 25.00%
7 55.56%
6 59.38%
5 67.39%
4 69.26%
3 57.69%
2 51.11%
1 75.00%

Victories depending on the number of expansions in play!

No Expansions Victory 72.81%
No Expansions Defeat 27.19%

1 Expansion Victory 60.29% (Big increase here)
1 Expansion Defeat 39.71%

2 Expansions Victory 70.00%
2 Expansions Defeat 30.00%

3 Expansions Victory 59.32%
3 Expansions Defeat 40.68%

4 Expansions Defeat 50.00%
4 Expansions Victory 50.00%

That's all for the moment! I hope to be able to keep a regular flow of stats during the next days.

I have been eagerly awaiting these (especially used expansion stats)...thanks Mcflainez! After the results for scenario 3 are up I'm going to boost Tsathogguas percentage with the number of games played - and lost - against that guy by my team *cries*.

great work. when i'm not playing a league game I send in my stats, and I will be trying those unbeaten combos!

Oh yeah, I wanted to add that I think listing unbeaten combos is a good idea - at the very least, they can potentially shed light on which combinations are more difficult than others (even in only a small way, given the amount of data).

MCFlainez wrote:Unbeaten Combos!

I think Atlach-Nacha + BGotW Herald might dominate that list in the near future. You can set the clock: You got 12 turns + each elder sign + each broken seal... (not counting south church encounters or Marie Lambeau or things i dunno about yet

) ...then game over.

Actually, I've broken that particular combo the other day in a three player game with all expansions (we beat Atlach-Nacha in mortal combat). I haven't reported it yet though - I'm gonna do that once the results are in. we had a ridiculous amount of allies thanks to the Kingsport wanderings of Rex Murphy, and Daisy was also part of the team (Arcane Insight shenanigans).

Ok, guys, something new! We know about goos, heralds, guardians and expansions popularity, but now it is time for...

Investigators Popularity!

And Mandy Thompson is truly dominating this list. Taking into account my preferences about the investigators, I am a bit surprised about some of the numbers: Mark Harrigan is well ranked, but Leo Anderson is doing pretty poorly as an example... And what is going on with Lily Chen? I know she is good character (and good looking also

) but she is from the last expansion yet she is at a 4th place!

Investigator Sessions
Mandy Thompson 71
Darrell Simmons 52
Dexter Drake 51
Lily Chen 47
Carolyn Fern 45
Ashcan Pete 44
Joe Diamond 42
Mark Harrigan 42
Jacqueline Fine 41
Michael McGlen 40
Harvey Walters 39
Gloria Goldberg 38
Kate Winthrop 38
Jenny Barnes 37
Diana Stanley 36
Vicent Lee 35
Wilson Richards 35
Daisy Walker 34
Bob Jenkins 33
Tony Morgan 32
Monterey_Jack 31
Lola Young 30
Rita Young 30
Sister Mary 29
Amanda Sharpe 28
Luke Robinson 28
Rex Murphy 27
Leo Anderson 26
Jim Culver 25
Charlie Kane 22
Marie Lambeau 22
Wendy Adams 22

Expect to see an analysis between investigators an victories soon (but not today

)

MCFlainez wrote:Ok, guys, something new! We know about goos, heralds, guardians and expansions popularity, but now it is time for...

Investigators Popularity!

And Mandy Thompson is truly dominating this list. Taking into account my preferences about the investigators, I am a bit surprised about some of the numbers: Mark Harrigan is well ranked, but Leo Anderson is doing pretty poorly as an example... And what is going on with Lily Chen? I know she is good character (and good looking also ) but she is from the last expansion yet she is at a 4th place!

Investigator Sessions
Mandy Thompson 71
Darrell Simmons 52
Dexter Drake 51

Go Dexter! Go!

Now that was a surprise to me.

-Mariana the ex-nun cultist

I object!!! (and vigorously at that)

Having just completed Join the Winning Team, I object to it being classified as a "defeat". I mean, come on, read the effing card "You WIN the game"

. Okay, so the others lose, but a win's a win, no

? Oh, I agree thematically it's weird as hell, especially since I did against Azathoth, but from a gameplay POV, and given its difficulty, it's definately up there in the challenge it presents. If 3 of 4 investigators get killed in the Final Combat but the GOO is defeated, I'm sure the survivor will posthumously honor the fallen

. Why should it be any different here?

Lowdown on how it all went down:

Solo game, random chars (as always), drew Leo Anderson as the first one (4 investigators), started with Zebulon Whateley AND a Task that had an Ally as one of the reward. Granted, wasn't thinking about JtWT at this point. But the pre-game Mythos card had dropped a 2nd Clue Token on STL and Leo went to grab the tokens, also getting Ruby Standish while at it. Now I was thinking maybe. Would you know it, Bob Jenkins was next, shopping at the Curiositie Shoppe, drew 2 weapons and JtWT. Though about it for a bit, then said what the hell, I'll go for it. Next turn, Kate Winthrop went shopping drew Holy Water, something and Dhol Chants. As they said in South Park just yesterday: "It's ON!" By turn 6, Leo had 4 allies and JtWT. Yes, I had all four investigators working as a team to get Leo to JtWT! First 3 drop-offs went without a hitch, but seemed like the fates were trying to prevent it, as Leo had gotten Blessed by an encounter at the Science Building and failing rolls in the OW gets you LiTaS'd. Anyway, Leo dove into the Abyss, 1st encounter was beneficial only. 2nd one however was monster appears. I'd shifted Leo's Will to max (to prevent insanity and the chance of getting the Ally remover Madness) and that only left him with 1 Fight and no Weapons. Monster turned out to be Color Out of Space, which luckily in this case, will beat you up if your fight is at 1!

I'm so totally counting the game as a win

!

Dam wrote:I object!!! (and vigorously at that)

Having just completed Join the Winning Team, I object to it being classified as a "defeat". I mean, come on, read the effing card "You WIN the game" . Okay, so the others lose, but a win's a win, no ? Oh, I agree thematically it's weird as hell, especially since I did against Azathoth, but from a gameplay POV, and given its difficulty, it's definately up there in the challenge it presents. If 3 of 4 investigators get killed in the Final Combat but the GOO is defeated, I'm sure the survivor will posthumously honor the fallen . Why should it be any different here?

Lowdown on how it all went down:

Solo game, random chars (as always), drew Leo Anderson as the first one (4 investigators), started with Zebulon Whateley AND a Task that had an Ally as one of the reward. Granted, wasn't thinking about JtWT at this point. But the pre-game Mythos card had dropped a 2nd Clue Token on STL and Leo went to grab the tokens, also getting Ruby Standish while at it. Now I was thinking maybe. Would you know it, Bob Jenkins was next, shopping at the Curiositie Shoppe, drew 2 weapons and JtWT. Though about it for a bit, then said what the hell, I'll go for it. Next turn, Kate Winthrop went shopping drew Holy Water, something and Dhol Chants. As they said in South Park just yesterday: "It's ON!" By turn 6, Leo had 4 allies and JtWT. Yes, I had all four investigators working as a team to get Leo to JtWT! First 3 drop-offs went without a hitch, but seemed like the fates were trying to prevent it, as Leo had gotten Blessed by an encounter at the Science Building and failing rolls in the OW gets you LiTaS'd. Anyway, Leo dove into the Abyss, 1st encounter was beneficial only. 2nd one however was monster appears. I'd shifted Leo's Will to max (to prevent insanity and the chance of getting the Ally remover Madness) and that only left him with 1 Fight and no Weapons. Monster turned out to be Color Out of Space, which luckily in this case, will beat you up if your fight is at 1!

I'm so totally counting the game as a win !

Now that is weird. All four investigators joining forces to complete "Joining the Winning Team" so that Azathoth can arrive before er,... before Azathoth arrives. Like all the kids in town working together to make xmas come sooner

They could have saved themselves a lot of stress and work by just all hanging out in Hibbs, boozing playing the odd round of cards or pool and putting theri feet up until DT 14 hit the fan.

Funny story - Mariana the ex-nun cultsit

I'm going to take the challenge tonight and try to solo this combination with 10 pack of cider... =)

Tsathoggua The King in Yellow

I'll report it tomorrow how it went... combination will be 4 investigators, DH, KiY, CotDP, selecting investigators from randomly drawn 3. (Total 12 will be drawn and 4 will be selected).

Cariosus wrote:I'm going to take the challenge tonight and try to solo this combination with 10 pack of cider... =)

Tsathoggua The King in Yellow

I'll report it tomorrow how it went... combination will be 4 investigators, DH, KiY, CotDP, selecting investigators from randomly drawn 3. (Total 12 will be drawn and 4 will be selected).

selecting 1 from each sequential set of three? or 4 from a total of 12?

Only the first strikes me as really being 1 from 3. The second is 1 from12, then 1 from 11, etc and actually gives a much borader choice.

I just realised how much these message boards bring out my inner geek.

- Mariana the ex-nun cultist

Post Fri, 2008 Sep 26, 9:06 AM (CDT) Subject: Re:Arkham Horror Statistics
selecting 1 from each sequential set of three? or 4 from a total of 12?

It will be the earlier option, so in clusters of three.

I just realised how much these message boards bring out my inner geek.

At least you're being honest...