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Chuck

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A while back I received an email from Robert Feuillerat, who had created his own version of the WFRP character folio. I couldn't post it at the time, because I was waiting for an ok from GW legal, which never came. Since BI isn't operating anymore, now seems as good a time as any.

You can find Robert's folio here at the Downloads section of Winds of Chaos. If you've got any feedback, I'm sure he'd love to hear it. He's been waiting a long time.

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Nice, however it's telling me that the Font Nelcosystems has not been embedded.

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It is very nice looking... In addition to the missing Nelcosystem font that Jadrax mentioned and a few minor typos (Whitchery instead of Witchery, for example, as a Minor Chaos Manifestation) I really like the folio.

However, based on my experience, there is not nearly enough room set aside for maladies, scars or debilitating effects..!

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Looks good, any chance of a race specific folio in the future.

With adjustments for a Grudge section for Dwarfs, recipe section for Halflings, etc
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Hi fellow WFRPers! I final got my self signed up here.

I made that and I want to thank Chuck for hosting it.

I appriciate the feedback and I fixed the typo for Witchery... Please let me know if you see others.

I'm going through and swiching the Nelco font for Caslon Antique, since that is the common font.

I don't know how to imbed the fonts into the PDF, that's why its punking out on that "box". The entire thing is created in Word 2007 and then converted with ClickBooks to the PDF in the book format you see.

I am open to suggestions and have even started a race specific version. Please elaborate on what you would like to see.

The thing I am trying to keep consistant is the middle pages which open to the profile, weapons and combat summary stuff so that it lays flat, which I think is what you refer to the most.

Again, thanks for the comments, I'll get to it tonight and update it so there wont be an issue with the font and send the updated version to Chuck ASAP.

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Bubba Kyrgyzstan wrote:
I am open to suggestions and have even started a race specific version. Please elaborate on what you would like to see.


Excellent, this is something I would love to see. I'll see what ideas I can come with over the next few days to help in its development.
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A few things I'd like to see in a Dwarf folio:

- Clan name
- Clan trade (e.g. miner, brewer, and so on)
- Clan hold
- Notable ancestors
- Personal Book of Grudges (at least one full page)
- Personal Book of Remembrance (at least one full page)
- Honourable / Dishonourable deeds
- Personal drinking record

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Looks nice!

Also: welcome back: Bubba!

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Heres my two cents.

Its what Id change if I was inclined to do these sort of things (or at least had the time)

-Id like some kind of border on the front page. In general Id like more 'parchment' like boxes and
borders/dividers throughout.

-Cant say anything about the order of pages, I assume this is in 'pre-folding' format.
I just take things as they come on the PDF.

-Character Personal Details.
Drop the 'dots' for Race and Gender. Just make a box where you can write. Just takes up unneccessary
space to have unchecked stats. Otherwise fine.

-Family Details.
Fine.

-Tzeentchs Curse.
Id drop this, maybe include it in a 'GM Party Info' or similar. This is not 'general' character knowledge,
but meta knowledge (ie perhaps the player knows).

-Spell Grim.
Id make two folios, one for spellcasters and one for non-spell caster. I would not want to have
a 'grimoire' section for my Beggar Halfling (Folios is all about THAT character).

-Friends and Allies & Enemies and Rivals.
Just make these 'general' NPC descriptions. The 'Notes' box can describe the relationship between
Character and NPC. Given WFRPs shades of grey, NPCs can be very hard to place in either section, or
can shift between them as play progress.

-Trappings.
OK as is.

-Creatures, Companions etc.
OK as is.

-Scars on Mind and Body
OK as is.

-Talents
I never like pre printed skills and talents. Just lot of useless space as you probably wont have the
majority of them. Just make them blank lines where you can note the talents yourself. Make a column
for descriptions.

-Mutations.
Why have a separate section for Mutations. Can players assume they will get a mutation eventually?
Increase space for 'scars of mind and body' and drop this section.

-Great men I have slain.
Those players who keep track of this can manage this in a genera 'notes' or 'Events during Adventuring'
section. (I once had a Knight in AD&D who hired Minstrel to accompany him and making ballads out of
his deeds. He turned out to be a tenderfoot. He got grumpy for sleeping too much under the sky and
eating too many Iron rations, so the ballads turned a bit 'Great Sir Robin' if you know what I mean).

-Skills.
Same as Talents. Drop the preprinted skills. Just a lot of empty space in the end.

-Damaged Armour
Cant this fit in a general 'notes' section for the Armour. Save space for other things.

-Careers.
Next Career, several carrers a bit unneccesary. If you want this, just make it one career box. I find that
when players want to know what Talents/Skills an potential 'next' career has, they have allready
decided for that career.

-Character Profile.
Advances taken. Just make box where you can write '+20'. Makes things clearer and looks better.
Weapons. Why make every row a potential ranged weapon? Melee weapons get a bit crowded.
Ammo. Drop the dots, this will just wear out paper. Blank space where you can writ down ammo is
better.

-Combat Action Summary.
If on wants these, and I can see that they are useful, why not put them on a separate sheet. Perhaps
with the complete skill description. A 'Players Screen' so to speak. Having it in the Folio will only mean
more wear on the Folio as people are constantly flipping through it.
Same with armour summary. Removing these will free up space.

-Conan, what is best in life?
-To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.

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Bubba Kyrgyzstan


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Big list... well, I asked for it

I used to be the GM when I started creating this and since then I have become a player and really started to get a feel for what I like/don't, what needs more/less space.

I know I can't make "the perfect" PC record that will meet everyone needs.

I hope I don't sound defensive about this.

One of my main goals (and still is) is to limit the amount of writing you have to do.
For two reasons:

1) Not everyone took drafting in high school in the late 70's (hand raised) and had to learn to letter in legible manner on paper with a pencil.

2) As a GM, I prefer consistancy in record keeping and a check box is much easier to mark than a line that they fill-in which goes back to #1.

I will consider your (LOTP) suggestions and any others and try to implement those that I can.

I do like the idea of a Spell Caster and a Non-Spell Caster versions, which will free up space for FEROZ & TOR's suggestions.

Unfortunatley in our game, our GM is not opposed to giving you a mutation if the situation fits and the only way of avoiding it expending a FP. Thankfully this doesn't happen a lot... I spent a FP to avoid going Ghoul (his version, tough, "Chief-like").

Creating a parchment look on the pages is something I need to figure out how to do.

I'll get to work and see what I can come up with, in the mean time I will get it updated so there are boxes and not "e" and send that to Chuck.


Later & Thanks.

R.F.

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Hey, great! Thanks!

And here are my 2 cents:

Why not using individual sheets and putting them in a binder in the order you prefer?

Not every Human is a wizard (and therefore needs the wizard section) and some some need more room for the "I slayed all these nasty beasts" entries than others.

So, having a common cover and skill section, you can select the sheets you need for your character; be it grudge records or a spellbook.

Ron.
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A modular folio is a great idea! You may just make a separate "core" unit, and a number of "plug-in" parts, for use depending on character type. Keep in mind those will probably vary in size - a Dwarf "plug-in" would take significantly more space than most others, due to the Books of Grudges and Remembrance.

Some ideas from top of my head:

- Wizard (grimoire, rituals, arcane marks, college status, Tzeentch's Curses)
- Priest (religion, religious order, cult status, visions, prayers (spells), divine marks)
- Dwarf (as mentioned above)
- Elf (I have no idea what exactly should be in there, but someone probably would)
- Halfling (the recipes idea is just too funny)
- Bounty/Witch Hunter (wanted posters, collected bounties, burnt heretics and so on).

A nice addition to the general part of the folio would be Reputation.

Now, I realize how much work all this is going to take...

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excellent looking folio, any printing tips to make it booklet?
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Yes, it's a lot of work, I have been tinkering with this for over a year. I first contacted Chuck about it on 3/23/07 and it has gone through many changes (the four skulls at the bottom is my version 4) and I wasn't tracking every version, which is more likely version 8 or 12.

I didn't go with the modular idea because someone else was already doing that, I am sorry that I don't recall their name. IIRC, They had an insert page for things like a horse/mount, so, if you lost your horse then you pull that page. I like the idea but in looking for ways to keep the stuff in place, it wasn't going to be cheap.

Printing tip: Download Nelco Symbols if you don't have it (until I can get it updated), Print to landscaped Legal size paper, duplexed. Fold the pages in half and put it together with Profile in the middle. If you view the PDF, the cover is at the top with each page going inside.
Personal info, Careers at the front.
Skills/Talents, Trappings, Grimorie & Tzeentch's at the back.

I'll number the pages when I update it.

For the next big update I'm concentrating on a Spell Caster & Non-Spell Caster versions. That way the Grimorie and Tz's Curse pages can be used for general Character stuff: Book of Grudges; Recipes; Bunnies, Trees and Flowers I know (Elfy stuff - I don't know either )

I'm keeping a list of suggestions and I'll see what I can do to implement as many as possible, so keep em coming and I'll get an update posted ASAP. I meant to work on it last PM but Lord Stanley's Cup was in Detroit and oh man was it a close and long game, but alas, back to Pittsburgh .

Later.

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I prefer printed lists of skills which include if they are basic and the appropriate attribute used. I find this takes up much less space than my hand printing and is more legible.
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Chuck wrote:I was waiting for an ok from GW legal

Uh oh. Isn't this one of the "famous last words"...?

Anyway, your new approach, which involves less self-censorship and putting the burden of action on them, is certainly the one I would always advocate!

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Where can I find the Nelco Symbols font?

I can't seem to find it anywhere. Even from the Nelco website.

Rock on.
Chuck

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Robert sent me the new version last night, with the font embedded. It's up on the site now.

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You shouldn't need it now. Chuck uploaded a new version on last pm.

I switched the Neclo fonts for Wingdings.

I removed the Race check boxes and made it a line with "Race"

I removed "Ammo" from 3 of the 6 weapons.

Plans for the next version are:

Combine/reduce the Friends & Enemies to a smaller section, maybe one page.

I'm still tinkering with modifiying the Scars & Insanities (expanding), reducing/removing Slain Beasts sections.

I think the Mutations section could be expanded some because in ToC you become a Chaos Sapwn if your mutations exceed your TB+1D10 and then your out of the game any how.

Q: How many GM's give the PC's mutations? I tried a few times (T checks) as a GM but my players were more likely to get an insanity (and I use v.1 & LF for insanities - the v.2 CRB are to harsh for a first insanity for me). It's much more fun to have them talking to them selves, lose sleep and have bad dreams for insanities.

Another option is to combine Insanities, Mutations & Scars (which I only record those scars casued by Ctits and big hits).

... and now that I have been looking over the pages I see I adjusted a page off onto another page...

Sorry, fixed...

Later.


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I like the new changes.

Mutations are very rare in our games, or at least if you get them its mostly bye bye anyway.

I once had a player with a mutated character that kept his character and instead made the character around his condition.

It was the mercenary Mustafa El Falafel that reciewed iron hard skin on his torso and a crab arm (from elbow down). He constantly kept amputating his arm (it grew back), and had a blacksmith grind down his iron skin (it also grew back). He turned to Ormazd (unoffical Araby god) for protection and became something like a mutated witch hunter. Great fun

-Conan, what is best in life?
-To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.

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I'm sending Chuck a new version of the booklet on 7-2 after I PDF it.

This version is for those that have no palns to become spell casters or a Cleric/Priest.

Please, print it, look it over. Let me know if you find any typos, spacing issues or just want to make suggestions. I know it can't meet everybodies needs but I hope it works for general non-spell/cleric use.

I'm still working on the Dwarf version. I have a Norse/Dwarf font that I may try to incorporate into the headings and other areas. I'll post it when I finish and let you all have a look at it and go from there.

On the drawing board are a Wizard and Cleric versions too.


Later

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