Warhammer style Films

Vlkodlak wrote:"-Krull"

OMG. And You`re saying that The 13th Warrior sucked.

And, has any of You Guys seen only ever episode of "Korgoth of Barbaria"?

My sentiments exact, listing Krull or Brothers Grimm immediately after stating that the 13th Warrior is the worst film one has ever seen is a bit... Um...

I've never understood the hate The 13th Warrior often gets (or some more recent films, such as Troy). Definitely a flawed film (or films) but one could do much worse for a film selection, such as anything directed by Michael Bay. I did see that one episode of Korgoth of Barbaria and I must say it wasn't bad, being a huge Conan fan definitely helps in one's enjoyment of it.

Vlkodlak wrote:"-Krull"

OMG. And You`re saying that The 13th Warrior sucked.

Todays lesson. You should allways read the fine print!

Sythorn wrote:

Vlkodlak wrote:"-Krull"

OMG. And You`re saying that The 13th Warrior sucked.

And, has any of You Guys seen only ever episode of "Korgoth of Barbaria"?

My sentiments exact, listing Krull or Brothers Grimm immediately after stating that the 13th Warrior is the worst film one has ever seen is a bit... Um...

Well, again, put on your glasses before you go into shock

However, I do think Brothers Grimm beats the hell out of 13th Warrior. Perhaps because Grimm is made tongue in cheek, while Warrior isnt. Also, being a Swede makes the film suck a whole lot more....

I've never understood the hate The 13th Warrior often gets....

Seriously, I dont hate it. We laughed so much watching it so I cant really hate it.

Lord of the Pit wrote:
Well, again, put on your glasses before you go into shock

Also, being a Swede makes the film suck a whole lot more....

Seriously, I dont hate it. We laughed so much watching it so I cant really hate it.

I read the fine print, my post wasn't entirely serious, as I'm guess yours wasn't either, I just couldn't let a mention of Krull go unchallenged.

But being a little more serious for moment, what exactly made the 13th Warrior so laughable? I can understand not liking the film, of course, or finding the anachronistic armor ridiculous, but you describe much as someone would typical B movie trash, and I just can't see it. So why is the movie that bad if you're Swede? I'm curious.

Sythorn wrote:

Lord of the Pit wrote:
Well, again, put on your glasses before you go into shock

Also, being a Swede makes the film suck a whole lot more....

Seriously, I dont hate it. We laughed so much watching it so I cant really hate it.

I read the fine print, my post wasn't entirely serious, as I'm guess yours wasn't either, I just couldn't let a mention of Krull go unchallenged.

But being a little more serious for moment, what exactly made the 13th Warrior so laughable? I can understand not liking the film, of course, or finding the anachronistic armor ridiculous, but you describe much as someone would typical B movie trash, and I just can't see it. So why is the movie that bad if you're Swede? I'm curious.

For starters, the main action takes place in mythic Scandinavia somewhere (cant remember where). The actors (Vikings) speak Swedish, Danish and IIRC Norwegian in a drunken stupor way. They are also portrayed like walking clichés, with litte to do with their time than to be disgusting, fight and make stupid one-liners. Also, I found the acting really bad, or perhaps one should blame the script.

I havent seen the movie for years now, so my memory is a bit hazy. We all laughed and said 'The Wendols are coming!' to eachother going home that night..

If you are aware of the Beowulf connection its a bit interesting, but that theme was seriously manhandled by Crichton (like most of the rest of the film..).

Like most movies, the book was better.

I'm suprised no one mentioned the more recent CGI Beowulf. While not period, it has some great Warhammer-style imagery, and the overall plot is very WFRP.

Now, please don't flame me for what I'm about to say next.

OK....

Go rent The Chronicles of Narnia. Yes, I know it's a kids' movie. But the scenes with the White Witch's horde nail exactly how a Beastman horde would look.

Dude. I`m with You. Although the plot and, hmm... setting is not very warhammery the imagery is wicked. Beastmen horde is only one example. For me the way Whte Witch was depicted on a sleigh pulled by polar bears immediately brought to mind "Hell yeah! The Ice Queen of Kislev from wettest dreams!".

The Wicker Man (I only saw the old version by Robin Hardy) - nice guideline on how to GM the secret machinations of dark cults

There's another Beowulf movie called Beowulf and Grendel that was made in 2005 and is great in a very different way.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402057/

Ye Ancient One wrote:There's another Beowulf movie called Beowulf and Grendel that was made in 2005 and is great in a very different way.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402057/

very true its a mutch better film than the CGI one (althou i like that too)

Hellboy has some nice things in it that can be lifted for wfrp use (iv had my pcs meet Kroenen

ahh good times)

Tournies as presented in a Knights tale are also totlay how i imagin them to be in WFRP

also has any one elce seen how cool the battle sceanes look in Prince Caspian

i meen twho huge formed up armys marching at one another

Here's a list of several films that could offer potential inspiration to anyone running or playing WFRP, I don't believe they've been mentioned yet.

The Reckoning
Perfume
King Arthur
Henry V
The Fountain
From Hell
Army of Darkness
The Advocate
Aguirre: Wrath of God
A Man for All Seasons
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Cromwell
The Count of Monte Cristo
Elizabeth I
Othello
Molière
Shadow of the Sword
Braveheart
Shakespeare in Love
Snow White: A Tale of Terror
Van Helsing
Tristan + Isolde
The Tudors

Sythorn wrote:Here's a list of several films that could offer potential inspiration to anyone running or playing WFRP, I don't believe they've been mentioned yet.

Army of Darkness

LOL

Would be fun to have 'Ash' suddenly appear in an adventure, complete with chainsaw and shotgun! Can they send him back before his presence rends the space-time continuum and the Warp floods over the earth?

Dr. Rudolf von Richten wrote:

Sythorn wrote:Here's a list of several films that could offer potential inspiration to anyone running or playing WFRP, I don't believe they've been mentioned yet.

Army of Darkness

LOL

Would be fun to have 'Ash' suddenly appear in an adventure, complete with chainsaw and shotgun! Can they send him back before his presence rends the space-time continuum and the Warp floods over the earth?

Yes it would! I mainly listed Army of Darkness because Ash is the ultimate example of Player Character behavior; everything from the blunders to comical heroics to witty remarks makes for a movie that captures the typical gaming experience.

im sure i have the sheet for my npc Dwarf engener turned vampire hunter Ahsric Williamson somewhere

Tor wrote:

oldscool wrote:

Tournies as presented in a Knights tale are also totlay how i imagin them to be in WFRP

Is that with a great Queen track playing in the background

Obviously althou Hammer to Fall is the dwarven national anthem

oldscool wrote:

Tournies as presented in a Knights tale are also totlay how i imagin them to be in WFRP

Is that with a great Queen track playing in the background

I was quite interested in some of the idea's portrayed in the film Stigmata on TV last night. Not the main plot line, which was pretty irrelevant to WFRP, but the idea that the cleric's were only allowed to translate one page out of three from the gospels would translate well to arcane tomes, as would the whole idea of suppressing the truth and only allowing the senior clergy to know all the facts. Likewise, I imagined some time ago that the Sigmarite temple in Altdorf must have a secret vault where all the arcane artifacts and tomes they have confiscated over the years are stored away for safe keeping.

Didz wrote:I imagined some time ago that the Sigmarite temple in Altdorf must have a secret vault where all the arcane artifacts and tomes they have confiscated over the years are stored away for safe keeping.

I'm sure that I've read somewhere that this is indeed the case.

Sythorn wrote:Here's a list of several films that could offer potential inspiration to anyone running or playing WFRP, I don't believe they've been mentioned yet.

The Advocate

A Man for All Seasons

Could I just underline how awesomely WFRP these are? I've never seen the movie version of A Man for All Seasons, just the play, but a surprisingly principled courtier versus a vain and reckless king is a great WFRP plot in and of itself.

And the Advocate...probably the most WFRP movie that no one seems to know about. It's got:

-an opening scene in which a donkey is pardoned of commiting unnatural acts just before being hanged
-degenerate noveau riche nobles
-whores
-ancient sinister cults (maybe)
-a murder mystery
-gypsies
-excellent late medieval headgear (some of the best costumes I've seen in any medieval movie)
-and a pig on trial for murder

What's NOT WFRP about that, save perhaps the fact that it's about a lawyer? Though basing a campaign around the movie's plot might be a nice change from the traditional Enemy Within MO that a lot of campaigns have. Hell, movies about lawyers are perhaps MORE WFRP than movies about berserkers.

-Wilhelm