News for October 2009
Lost in Time and Space 102
FFG announces the cancellation of Arkham Horror Investigator Miniatures
Arkham Horror | Published 15 October 2009

We have listened to your concerns and considered your valuable feedback regarding our announcement of the Arkham Horror Investigator Miniatures. Having weighed the desires of our fans and considered our manufacturing options, Fantasy Flight Games has opted to hereby cancel the release of this product.

"It was very clear from the vocal feedback that we received that the majority of our players were strongly unfavorable towards the price-point and packaging that we had planned for these figures," stated Christian T. Petersen, CEO of FFG. "Unfortunately, as it's not remotely feasible for FFG to produce quality painted figures in the assortments and at the price-point range suggested from our customer feedback, we've decided to cancel this product. For obvious reasons, we have no interest in creating product that does not match our customers’ expectations, nor of pushing product into the retail channel that will not be successful for our professional partners. We apologize to the customers who were excited about the announced figures, and will continue to investigate avenues in the future to make the reality of painted miniatures for Arkham Horror a reality."

As always, we at Fantasy Flight Games would like to thank our loyal fans for their continued feedback and support.

Arkham Horror is a boardgame of mystery and madness set in Arkham in the 1920's. Players investigate the strange happenings about the town, and race to prevent ancient evil from surfacing. Playable with 1-8 players.

Write Comments     
More News [+]
Comments (102)

Dumon
Published: 10/15/2009 12:17:52 PM
#18

I'm with ColtsFan here, that it was the right choice...

That said, I also think the choice was not an altruistic or fanbase-supporting one. I think Christian Lindtke is right when he claims that FFG, having seen the dissatisfaction of his future Arkham-product-buyers (as an expansion like this would predominantly be a fan-bought one), opted to withdraw a product that it saw no reliable market for.

Yes, Fantasy Flight Games was listening to its customers. But to claim that this choice was purely for the good of the customer is walking into battle with the blinders on. In hindsight, the one who definitely profits most from this decision will most probably be FFg itself, as it foregoes shelved products because the majority of the peer group is dissatisfied with price and packaging...

It is the best choice, and they were listening, but a company like FFG, as any other company, is based on profit. Thats how it is.

Still, i have to say:
Thank you FFG for this decision. You saved me hundreds of dollars. I would have complained like any other fan about the price. And still I would have bought it anyway...

David Spangler
Published: 10/15/2009 12:04:08 PM
#17

Personally, I would strongly vote against unpainted minis, having neither the time nor skill to paint them myself.  I am willing to pay more for the painted kind. My problem with the product as described was with the packaging which seemed wasteful and especially in these days, not ecological. I'm disappointed these won't be coming out as they would have added a great deal to the gameplay, but like others, I applaud FFG's listening to their fans and paying attention to these boards.  Makes me feel that we're not all just whistling in the dark when we write our thoughts here.  So here's hoping other alternatives can be found that can bring painted minis to our game table in a way that serves all the needs by all the stakeholders, including the environment.

blark
Published: 10/15/2009 11:46:27 AM
#16

I'm glad to see this.  Glad to see FFG recognize that they might take a bath on something, and pull the plug before it happens.  Glad too to see that the company really does listen to the fans.

Hopefully these creative energies can be focused in some other way for Arkham Horror, kind of like that big ray gun at the university Science Building.

Frog
Published: 10/15/2009 11:43:58 AM
#15

Yes, selling sets of unpainted plastic minis for each expansion is the way to go.  And then rolling them into the core games for future editions.  That would make everyone happy.  New gamers who buy the eventual 3rd edition and current gamers could upgrade buy purchasing a set of unpainted plastic minis for low-cost for each expansion and the core game!

Please consider that FFG!

Gnutten
Published: 10/15/2009 11:41:24 AM
#14

Looks like a sensible move... and a good sign that you listen to your customers...

 

What about release a box of unpainted minis? If the sculpts are done it would be a shame not to use them.  And it is WAY more appealing to buy all the minis from each expansion in a complete set.

 

Looking forward to the minis... hopefully well see them!

shnar
Published: 10/15/2009 11:39:49 AM
#13

Wow, I'm speechless. I'm not sure if this was good or bad, but I guess it means FFG at least watches the different message boards.

Having said that, I'd *love* to have AH minis, maybe not prepainted, or more mass bundled?

-shnar

RudyHuxxxtable
Published: 10/15/2009 11:39:05 AM
#12

Wow, that's a bold decision.  I actually have a tremendous amount of respect for that.  Sorry I wasn't totally on board with the idea as is, but I'd hate to think the idea is just getting dumped.

Can you really not find an amenable alternative?  More per package?  Smaller box?  One per package?  If you provided them unpainted, three or four to a package, and let me paint em myself, I MIGHT let you make my inner nerd pick up a brush again and find a feasible but masculine way to explain it to my girlfriend.  I'd give you a 20 for that.

Wytefang
Published: 10/15/2009 11:38:08 AM
#11

Gamers whine too much.  That is all.  ;)

Christian Lindke
Published: 10/15/2009 11:37:01 AM
#10

I am exceedingly disappointed in this news.  I was very much looking forward to the release of these miniatures.  The price point was not insignificant, but I understood that a lower production run and high standard would require a higher price.  I was willing to pay.

I don't think it is "putting fans first" to cancel a product.  It might be smart business.  It might be good forecasting based on market feedback.  But any customer who would direct ire at a company for offering a product they don't want to buy is a ridiculous person.

I don't get mad at Toyota for selling Lexus brand cars when I can only afford a Corolla. 

From a "desire to purchase and use in pulp games" position, I am very disappointed in FFG.

From a market projection position, I think FFG might be a company that I would be willing to buy stock in (if they were public) as they seem to be able to determine whether a line will be profitable or not.

Retina
Published: 10/15/2009 11:32:02 AM
#9

Thank you.

Doing miniatures is a fine idea, just find a better way to deliver them. I would love to have these and hope you do find a way to do them in the future.

FragMaster
Published: 10/15/2009 11:31:16 AM
#8

Good move! Shows that FFG is not a deaf company and respect its customers {fans is a better word}.

Since we are on this subject:

 

The good:

FFG is my favorite boardgame company and every game they make even if I don't buy it {because someone else from my group has} I surely want and will play it! Keep up the good work!

 

The obligatory bad:

Only two complaints that I consider very minor compared to the good.

1} FFG has "buried" DOOM and discontinued support for it. I'm not talking replacing pieces and dice. I'm talking scenarios, game balance issues, new expansions, even online support, scenario database etc.

All in favor of DESCENT for which I don't care since DOOM is so much better. I'm hoping that Gears of War will be DOOM's "expansion"

 

and

2} Stop Days of Wonder's policy about BattleLore expansions. I want to see classic FFG box with a lot of stuff inside and not overpriced mini-boxes with a few minis and some cards. The Heroes expansion changes the gameplay in a profound way and I can understand selling it that way. The Dragons and Creatures expansions are WAY overpriced for what they offer to the game. I'd prefer a bigger box titled CREATURES having both expansions inside and even more goods for a bigger but more reasonable price than those offered now.

So in a few words, Bigger BattleLore expansions with more stuff in them, bigger price but overall cheaper.

I don't want to have to buy BattleLore piece by piece paying a lot of money every 2 months. One big expansion with everything inside every 6-8 months will be better.

That's my two "wish you do this" for FFG. Keep up the good work!

sepayne7l
Published: 10/15/2009 11:30:45 AM
#7

I'm disappointed. I was very much looking forward to these. I was hoping they would release at least the first wave and then evaluate whether to continue. I really thought that a lot of fans would give in and buy a few once they saw them in the stores.

I didn't think $6.50 a figure, or $13 a month, was that bad. The packaging they described was pretty small. A shame. Thanks for trying FFG. I know you've been listening as people have clamored for figs for years.

© 2013 Fantasy Flight Publishing, Inc. Fantasy Flight Games and the FFG logo are ® of Fantasy Flight Publishing, Inc.  All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Contact | User Support | Rules Questions | Help | RSS