So your problem is that you don't think it does what you want it to, and that you don't like what they're doing more than anything else.  

Have you actually looked into what has been said on other websites, or watched the presentation on YouTube as to what will be covered in each of the books?

From what has been said, the first book will focus on the 'scum and villainy' aspects of the setting, which many people like - also covered will be things like exploration, bounty hunting and smuggling.

The second book will include the politics involved with the rebellion, as well as fleet action between capital ships.

The final book will focus on the Last Surviving Jedi in the galaxy, and probably include more in depth force rules.

Yes, it is likely that the core rules will be duplicated in each of the books, but in all probability, they will include new classes and background information that fit within the focus of that book. Would you prefer one book that tries to be all things to all people, or seperate books that allow people to play the types of games they want to play?

It seems that even though you will be able to create pilots, mercenary soldiers and force users (which you've identified as 'core' classes), you seem to have already decided that you don't want to play this game because you feel that you've been stiffed by other games that have used similar models in the past?

You mention Pinnacle and White Wolf as examples of 'how things should be', but Pinnacle don't seem to be that active in producing their own products (most of the books released for savage worlds are by third parties, with only a few books by Pinnacle themselves), and white wolf seem to be going for a more PDF only approach (although they are doing a 20th anniversary edition of Vampire: The Masquerade) so I don't think that either of those are good examples of business models that FFG should follow.

The way I look at is that I get to play the game earlier than I otherwise would.  We know that the full version of the game is being released sometime in 2013, but we don't know when; it's entirely possible that the game won't be released until Gencon next year, but we can play it now - potentially a full year before the game is released.

Mainly because beta testing should be free.  It should be free because you are doing work for these guys.  You doing work that could get you paid, but instead they tell you got early access to the game.  It is a very simple deal.  You get the game early, but you have to beta test it so that the company will know what to fix.

Now you are wondering why I would pay 20 dollars for a pdf that is clearly beta?  Because when it is all done and the finilized core book pdf comes in I will get a 20 dollars off coupon.  So yeah I am doing a pre purchase of the game.  In a way you can say the beta pdf is free because I will get a discount later on that is equal to the price of the beta.  Hell I don't see any "Seriously?" threads in the Only War Beta forums. Nobody is complaining about Only War.

Now to clarify some things.  I personally believe this is LucasArts once again being too controlling of their license.  I am sure if Fantasy Flight could they would do the Only War route because that did garner my good will and the good will of others.  Just I am not going to pay money for a hard cover book for a beta with shipping cost right on top of that.  That screams unfair to the consumer to me.  If they put it at pdf form and offer a discount for the core pdf book then I would jump on it.

 I think there is some confusion in this thread.  You do not have to pay for or participate in the beta.  If you want you can wait untill retail release and only buy the finished product.  The beta isn't like a tax or something that you must pay for, no one is going to come to your house and force you to pay.   

Haroon said:

Although that would be funny. 

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I would laugh.

Haroon said:

I cannot say that in my opinion that it looks like a unfair deal despite the fact I don't blame Fantasy Flight for it?

Snowman0147 said:

Having a little trouble with your syntax there.  Do you mean, you should be able to say it's not worth it regardless of your attitude toward FFG?  The answer is, it depends.  You can certainly say that it's not worth it to you.  It's not really possible for you to say that it's not worth it to anybody.  But maybe I have misunderstood your sentiment?

Snowman0147 said:

I think is has been stated elsewhere that FFG are unable to produce pdf's due to the licensing agreement. It has even been suggested the LucasArts class pdf's as 'electronic games' and would be covered by a video game license, which I would say would be way out of FFGs price range. However, I have no idea if the last part is true.

DaemonicShaman said:

Now I don't know what you are saying.  Are you agreeing with me, clarifying me, or what?

Wow I didn't know underlining words will make them bigger…

 I was agreeing with you in that it appears that the licensing agreement prevents ffg from producing PDF versions of their star wars products. 

Manchu said:

Manchu said:

To me it doesn't seem like it is worth it at all.  So I guess you can say I am voicing out that it does appear to be a unfair deal for me.  I don't see how it is worth it for anyone else to be honest.  Even if you get a pretty book out of the deal it is still just a unfinished game.  I guess what I am seeing is this…

Only War Beta (20) + Only War Core (30) - Only War Beta Coupon (20) = 30 dollars

Only War Core (30) = 30 dollars

Star Wars Beta (30) + Shipping (10 x 2) + Star Wars Core (Maybe 50) = 100 dollars

Star Wars Core (50) + Shipping (10) = 60 dollars

You notice how the two sums from the Only War are completely the same?  This is mainly because the beta is in the long term free.  You pay now, but that coupon will give value right back to you when the core book comes in.  Which fits my belief that betas should be free.  There is a price difference between the Star Wars Beta route and just out right buying the core book.  A forty dollar difference to be a exact.  Now in my opinion and in my belief that looks quite wrong.  So to me it seems unfair and I feel I have the right to point that out.

Now you maybe asking why betas should be free?  I have to say because you are also providing a service to fantasy flight.  Free service I will add.  So the math in my head is that Fantasy Flight offers a beta so you can get the game earlier, but on the same token you provide a equal service right back to them.  They provided the goods, but you are the one that refined those goods so it can be sold better later on.  If you don't believe me, then look at the guys who did the demo tests, the alpha tests, and the closed in the office only beta tests.  They all got payed.  Maybe not much, but they still got payed.

If you disagree with me more power to you.  Maybe you see value in it that I don't.

I wish I could edit the posts I make cause I know I didn't do the double quote when I was typing my post.

I played the demo at gen con and then bought the book. Granted I didn't have to pay the shipping but I am happy with my purchase.

This is basically a finished game system that nay have some minor tweaks made to it. I am happy to pay the $30 to have early access into playing the game.

DaemonicShaman said:

Okay and thank you for clarifying that.

Srqt said:

Essentially this.