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Fortress America
One nation...under siege
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At first excited, then I read
Published on 16 December 2011 - 12:43:30
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Reply #61 | Published on 28 February 2012 - 08:02:39

BigKahuna said:

 

...The new one is passable, but not nearly as interesting.  I hope whoever this employee who wrote it gets a pat for a job well done, because the writing was great, even if it was not approved for release.

I do like controversial discussions though I think its fun to ask a question like why not make a game where Americans are villains?  ...I mean given the political atmosphere in the world, Americans randomly accusing everyone of being terrorist (including kids downloading music from the internet) why not use board gaming as a medium to spark discussion?

Seconded. Snake Plissken for the win.

"Some said the thunder called the lurking fear out of its habitation, while others said the thunder was its voice."

H.P. Lovecraft, The Lurking Fear

Reply #62 | Published on 09 March 2012 - 23:08:59
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Wow, I can't believe people got out of sorts about this.  Come on!  It is fiction.  Did it really matter if the USA was the bad guy in this game?  DId the original story really need to be changed anyway? 

Also, just in case it was not addressed, Fortress America is a real term.  It concerns the fact that we are surrounded by two big ass oceans and there are not many ways to effectively attack the USA.  Mostly a WWII and Cold War idea, but it created NORAD and other parts of our defense.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortress_North_America

 

 

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Reply #63 | Published on 21 March 2012 - 03:59:45
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I used to have the original game.  All I remember about it was that it was boring.  Now I see FFG has it now.  And someone didn't like the backstory.  So I read the backstory as it is now (March 21, 2012) and it just sounds so boring, here we go again with this game.  But then I read the quote of the original backstory and I'm like, "Yes!"  World War III!!!  Stop the Americans from vaporizing another capital city on the globe using any means necessary!!!

But no, the backstory now is just so tame. 

Reply #64 | Published on 22 March 2012 - 22:46:56

Shonner said:

I used to have the original game.  All I remember about it was that it was boring.  Now I see FFG has it now.  And someone didn't like the backstory.  So I read the backstory as it is now (March 21, 2012) and it just sounds so boring, here we go again with this game.  But then I read the quote of the original backstory and I'm like, "Yes!"  World War III!!!  Stop the Americans from vaporizing another capital city on the globe using any means necessary!!!

But no, the backstory now is just so tame. 

I know. They need to release two back-story cards: one with the original text and one with the new. Burn one and keep the other, or both.

"Some said the thunder called the lurking fear out of its habitation, while others said the thunder was its voice."

H.P. Lovecraft, The Lurking Fear

Reply #65 | Published on 23 March 2012 - 02:58:12
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Tromdial said:

I know. They need to release two back-story cards: one with the original text and one with the new. Burn one and keep the other, or both.

There you go.  Problem solved.

Reply #66 | Published on 25 March 2012 - 01:47:04

Shonner said:

Tromdial said:

I know. They need to release two back-story cards: one with the original text and one with the new. Burn one and keep the other, or both.

 

There you go.  Problem solved.

Thank you. I'd like to think the problem is solved, but the world however is not always a simple place, ala Fortress America.

"Some said the thunder called the lurking fear out of its habitation, while others said the thunder was its voice."

H.P. Lovecraft, The Lurking Fear

Reply #67 | Published on 22 April 2012 - 23:31:00
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Darkeus said:

Wow, I can't believe people got out of sorts about this.  Come on!  It is fiction.  Did it really matter if the USA was the bad guy in this game?  DId the original story really need to be changed anyway? 

Also, just in case it was not addressed, Fortress America is a real term.  It concerns the fact that we are surrounded by two big ass oceans and there are not many ways to effectively attack the USA. 

 

Apparently there are two countries that border the USA, one called "Canada" to the north, and one called "Mexico" to the south.

 

(I only mention this because I'm not convinced that all Americans are aware of it.)

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Reply #68 | Published on 22 April 2012 - 23:33:11
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waging_war said:

My God! Some people are real pieces of work. If you don't want to buy a game cause America is the fictional bad guy in the game, then don't buy the game! Sit at home, watch CNN, kiss the screen when Tucker Carlson comes on, and belive you rule the universe. It's a game! Get over yourself. I'm Canadian and I wouldn't bitch if there was a game where Canada was the ideological enemy. Hell, I'd even play it!

 

As a Canadian myself, I suspect that not only would most Canadians play it, but we'd be damn proud to be taken seriously as a military superpower villain!

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Reply #69 | Published on 19 May 2012 - 08:06:49

 Hear hear! (a fellow Canuck).

Two heads are bigger than one.

Reply #70 | Published on 26 May 2012 - 18:38:33

 i like the back story.     I think the sushi jalapeno war would be a good game to remake too.      in that one japan, america, the republic of Texas, and south america invade mexico …no mexico player but you would have to fight their armies and each other and nukes could be dropped..the rules where poorly written however.

 

in that one mexico declares the entire pacific ocean sovereign territory and then arrests all the Japanese fishermen which they proceed to execute.  Imperialist Japan invades in retaliation along with south american allies.  The united states counter invades under the guise of protecting Mexico from Japanese Imperialism along with their republic of Texas allies.   it had some interesting rules involving politics with the U'N on the american side and other things.  

 

I really enjoy these alternative history/ speculative future games…..I am really happy FFG made this game and I hope I have the mon ey to buy it when it comes out

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Reply #71 | Published on 07 June 2012 - 04:15:36
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This made me shed a tear for the gaming industry. And the OP of this thread just irked me. I swear a game that had a fresh feeling for it. FFG broke free of a mold long set with games, a mold where America is always the good guys. I mean why is perfectly fine for America to be breaking in China's door or Russia or the middle east in games, but the second America is the bad guy, people go up in arms, it makes me sad that they changed it. Now I haven't the slightest how much this game has made, I have no idea how much it wouldn't have made if it had have kept it's previous background. (Although those that wouldn't buy it because America is the bad guys aren't true gamers) I know they have to make money but I still get sad that they had to change it for the whiny (I'm assuming slightly racist or overly patriotic) minority. It annoys me that the OP would have had no problem buying the original game if it had have been Russia stirring crap up. But because the close minded individual can't break out of the stereotypes society has given him he can't see a true gem past because he couldn't see past 'America is the bad guy for once'.

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Reply #72 | Published on 07 June 2012 - 14:23:40
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Spyderslicer said:

This made me shed a tear for the gaming industry. And the OP of this thread just irked me. I swear a game that had a fresh feeling for it. FFG broke free of a mold long set with games, a mold where America is always the good guys. I mean why is perfectly fine for America to be breaking in China's door or Russia or the middle east in games, but the second America is the bad guy, people go up in arms, it makes me sad that they changed it. Now I haven't the slightest how much this game has made, I have no idea how much it wouldn't have made if it had have kept it's previous background. (Although those that wouldn't buy it because America is the bad guys aren't true gamers) I know they have to make money but I still get sad that they had to change it for the whiny (I'm assuming slightly racist or overly patriotic) minority. It annoys me that the OP would have had no problem buying the original game if it had have been Russia stirring crap up. But because the close minded individual can't break out of the stereotypes society has given him he can't see a true gem past because he couldn't see past 'America is the bad guy for once'.

 

Well, maybe FFG as an US based company HAS to be patriotic to be successful in its main (the US) market. I dont think that the TO is alone in his irrational attitude. I am sure USA is full of such nationalistic blockheads. And FFG tries not to loose them as customers. Corp money first, then ethics. I would not wonder if the writer of the first (much more original) backstory has been fired now or had some serious problems with his FFG boss after publishing it on the net.

Reply #73 | Published on 08 June 2012 - 16:43:01
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Buster Freely said:

Darkeus said:

 

Wow, I can't believe people got out of sorts about this.  Come on!  It is fiction.  Did it really matter if the USA was the bad guy in this game?  DId the original story really need to be changed anyway? 

Also, just in case it was not addressed, Fortress America is a real term.  It concerns the fact that we are surrounded by two big ass oceans and there are not many ways to effectively attack the USA. 

 

 

 

Apparently there are two countries that border the USA, one called "Canada" to the north, and one called "Mexico" to the south.

 

(I only mention this because I'm not convinced that all Americans are aware of it.)

 

Yeah, but ironically those countries do not count in teh Fortress America plans. 

I guess they figure that Mexico and Canada wouldn't have a chance against us. 

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Reply #74 | Published on 12 July 2012 - 13:11:31
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[q] Yeah, but ironically those countries do not count in teh Fortress America plans. [/q]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but it most asuredly looks like the Southern Invader comes across the border from Mexico. The invasion zones may be colored blue there, but according to my world map this is the location of Mexico.

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Reply #75 | Published on 12 July 2012 - 19:09:01

 I guess CanaDUH as a ‘serious’ threat really WOULD be a Sci-Fi game!!! Ha, ha…I can see us standing (or rather dying) proudly side to side with our Socialist brothers, the ESP, and their state of the art hovertanks and our pathetic Sea King helicopters from 50 years ago! Fortunately for CanaDUH there is no naval units in the game, I think our vintage Korean War Frigates (and all we have is Frigates and Destroyers)  would all get a well deserved rest in the Davy Jones Locker.

Scott Lynch

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