N0-1_H3r3 said:

My players will also leading invasion on Imperial world. Have any tips how you did it as GM?

And he's still going to fail.

The Imperium has survived the Age of Apostacy and the reign of Goge Vandire. It has survived the Ultima Segmentum splitting off for a millenia or two to become a seperate rival empire. It's had the entire council of High Lords assassinated. Alien creatures dominate the minds of countless billions accross the galaxy and screw things up even worse when they're killed. Assailed on all sides by Orks, traitors and a myriad of other forces for Ten Thousand Years!

But NOW it's going to fall, because Abaddon's Master Plan revised edition #8.88 can't possibly fail? No. The Imperium won't fall, it can't truly fall. Attacking Terra directly would invoke such an Imperial response to make all the battles at the Cadian Gate look like schoolyard slap fights. The Imperium, and the state of affairs in the galaxy, will keep grinding inexorably on… because as we all know, there is only War.

Every so often the Imperium hits these low points. And every so often someone like Lord Solar Macharius (Or.. Ursakar Creed?) comes along to beat back the darkness and the evil it contains. Every so often the Imperium laces up its boots and has its turn to go stomping some heads around the galaxy. The only way to actually make the Imperium start to fall, when you look at the setting, would take highly concentrated amounts of handwavium, just because the writers want it to fall.

[QUOTE]One world, one conflict, one massacre, which has no apparent strategic meaning to the Imperium may be of the utmost importance to a Champion of Chaos. One act which makes no sense in a purely mundane environment may have vast metaphysical repercussions.[/QUOTE]

That's why the Inquisition watches from the shadows.

Or they just let Matt Ward loose with a new chapter and they solve everything … twice over and write their name in bold ittalic character on Aggron. The next you have to do to be cool thing…

crisaron said:

That man Draigo is acting like a spoiled child, goin' about writing his name everywhere :P

If abaddon dies, he will just become a new chaos god!

named "Tim". 

NOOOO the WHEELED CHAIR GOD!!! TIMMY!!!!

 If  Abbadon dies, they clone a new one. This is not the first time it's happened.

Fenrisnorth said:

and call him "Tim".

Ixionyx said:

Wait…

So the 14th Black Crusade will pretty much be a WAAAAAGH!?

 From BFG Traitor Fleets, pg 36…

"It was this lack of pace which was to lead to its eventual downfall, as it was destroyed salvo after salvo of torpedoes, fired at extreme range by the Lunar class cruisers of battle group Omega, shortly after the destruction of Kharlos II."

Unless he built another Planet Killer there is no way he could be taking the original towards Terra. The Sol system is the most heavily defended system in the Imperium. Unless the traitor fleet drastically out numbers the Imperials he will need to revert to real space beyond Pluto because of gravity making such things impossible. And beyond Pluto are the system defense guns, kill sats and other weapons. The largest and most sacred of the Mechanicum vessels to defend Sacred Mars. Also in the Sol system is the Phalanx, Chapter Monastery of the Imperial Fists.

Abaddon would need to strike at hundreds of worlds at once to keep every Legion from jumping to Terra with their barges and strike cruisers. He would have very little chance inside the Sol system.

TheHeavenlyLily said:

First off, the wreck was never recovered.  When the Inquisition went searching for it, they found no trace.  Second, the Planet Killer was sighted on numerous occasions during the 13th Black Crusade.  It's not known if this is the rebuilt original, or a new ship…  In either case, though, Abbadon does have one at his disposal as of the 13th Black Crusade.  Pleasant dreams, Imperials.  

Cheers,

- V.