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Ripper.McGuirl said:
Anyone figure out how to upload your own avatar?
Simple.
You cant 
Please remember that the above is the (spellchecked, praise be to Firefox!) ramblings of a madman take it literally at your own risk....
Peacekeeper_b said:
Im out.
You're not going to post anymore because they changed the format? You post a lot man, it would be a shame to lose you over cosmetic changes.
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I can see the reason for it, but I'm seriously not a fan of the only "game" information that you can provide is FFG material. Cool idea that you get "points" for playing FFG material, but since I don't see a point in doing that then one entire section and profile information is null and void.
With that said, I overally like the move and the new style. There's a lot of wasted space for sure, but that's just scroll down time since I'm not going to bother with what someones top five FFG games are.
The grey-on-grey is more of a problem. It's not illegible, but it is more of a strain, and really not that hard to turn it to, say, white. The inability to upload your own avatar harks back to the BI forums. Unless I can be "me" I don't see the point in having an avatar that is limited to the FFG product range. Seeing someone with the Akrham Horror avatar is not going to inspire me to purchase the game, and certainly isn't going to help in differentiating between the other members who happen to have selected that avatar.
The lack of standard keyboard inputs is rather annoying. I dislike having to use the mouse to select smilies, for example, but otherwise the new formatting options are fine. A bit of a disjoint from the original forums, for sure, but every board seems to have its own quirks that you have to get used to and remember not to use on the others.
I'll have to see how the quotes work when we get into the discussions. When more people are over here having 40k discussions, that will probably be sorted out rather quickly. Formatting is a bit annoying, since you have to go back and insert italicisation, emboldened, etc.
On the bright side, most of the changes seem to be either cosmetic, or the desire to push - throttle! - the products. That last is understandable, though -- it is an FFG community, not a Dark Heresy one, and not a 40k one. (Or at least not specifically those communities.)
Kage
Agreed, there are still a few bugs in the system, on the other hand it is not really finished in my opinion. Be so fair and give it a few days, it is after all still a FREE forum.
... und mein heiliger Zorn kennt keine Grenzen.
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What this does to a game is worse than if a Dark Eldar offers to host your bachelor party.
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Erm, that's what people are trying to point out, I believe, segara82. While much of this can be developed on a testing server, some of the little bugs are only going to be pointed out when you get the client base up and running, cheaply testing it beyond what the web developers would have been able to do. Thus, pointing out the bugs is probably a part of the process! 
With that said, the "free forum" argument is a bit weak, if you will forgive me. How many people would join the "Dark Heresy community" if you actually had to pay to be a member? I certainly wouldn't, but maybe the great fans of the system would. I have my doubts, though.
Incidentally, cleaning up the formatting thing would be nice, such that you could press Ctrl-I to start typing in italicised text, and then again to stop it. At the moment, as above, you have to go through the text, highlight it and then add the formatting. Very frustrating for those used to keyboard shortcuts, and an invisible change to those that go back and format the text in another way.
Kage
With the 'free forum' i was refering to the non-exisiting GW-Forum for their products. Although they are the biggest TT-producer, they don't have one, and that goes for a few other companies. What i am trying to say is this: they are so nice to give us a free place to rant about/discuss/talk/fantasize about their universes/games/miniatures. They move from their old forums/servers to new ones. Considering the size of it it is hard to do in just a day or two. I am no employee, therefore i do not know if they (plan to) move the old threads into the new one (which is also no small task). So i try to be fair and give them a week to get everything up and running.
after said week, i will of course be a tid bit miffed and start bitching.
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What this does to a game is worse than if a Dark Eldar offers to host your bachelor party.
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No it means in typical fan boy style Im going to have a chip on my shoulder while Im on this forum for a little while until I get adjusted and use to the new format.
Similar to how I went from BI to FFG first forum.
But naturally I will become accustomed to the changed and when people say things like "you hated it at first" Ill say "sha as if..."
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Apologies for the nightmarish quote glitch in this reply. The forum doesn't like you to reply to more than one person at a time. (Now there's a recipe for spamming.)
segara82 said:
With the 'free forum' i was refering to the non-exisiting GW-Forum for their products. Although they are the biggest TT-producer, they don't have one, and that goes for a few other companies.
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Although they used to have one. I remain blissfully unaware of why they put a stop to it, although it might have had something to do with the quality of the posts. 
segara82 said:
What i am trying to say is this: they are so nice to give us a free place to rant about/discuss/talk/fantasize about their universes/games/miniatures. [/quote]
Well, it's not as if it really costs that much to maintain. Forums are always going to crop up about RPGs, etc. Thus the forum becomes an obvious marketting ploy (hence the "community" aspects of selecting games, etc. -- one big push/incentive system for shifting more of their product range). And that's fair enough, once again.
segara82 said:
I am no employee, therefore i do not know if they (plan to) move the old threads into the new one (which is also no small task). So i try to be fair and give them a week to get everything up and running.
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I have my doubts. Why bother converting the database from one structure to another when you can get the plebs (us!) to move over the discussions that we consider interesting, and without a cent paid to the people doing the work. 
peacekeeper_b said: "But naturally I will become accustomed to the changed and when people say things like "you hated it at first" Ill say "sha as if..."

Edit: Well, multiple quotes are going to be somewhat annoying. Perhaps that is something that might want to be addressed. Either that or people aren't going to bother with using the quote system in the first place. 
Kage
Peacekeeper_b said:
You see, I actualy quite like this new board, except the bugs, of course.
There, now in three weeks time, I can point to this post, and say, 'I always liked it!' Thats forward thinking for you!
Something I don't like though, is the formating. I have gotten [i]used[/i] to the tags for formatting and links, and changing is going to be a bit difficult, and time consuming.
Please remember that the above is the (spellchecked, praise be to Firefox!) ramblings of a madman take it literally at your own risk....
Okay, I really do hate the quote system....
PM102 said:
You see, I actualy quite like this new board, except the bugs, of course.
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As above, very pretty. 
PM102 said:
Something I don't like though, is the formating. I have gotten [i]used[/i] to the tags for formatting and links, and changing is going to be a bit difficult, and time consuming.
Aye, and cross posting to the other boards. Has a warning even gone up that they're going to be closing it down? If there is one then it's probably in one of those sticky threads...
Kage
It has, it's in the sticky where it mentions that it is migrating in the first place.
They are being locked on the 5th of december, and deleted on the 31st.
So not a great amount of time to move those thousands of threads!
Please remember that the above is the (spellchecked, praise be to Firefox!) ramblings of a madman take it literally at your own risk....
Well, it seems that Wu-Ming is doing some hard slog at this. I cannot think of anything that I see as really being needed over here, but there we go. It might be the same 'ole discussion happening all over again, but perhaps there will be some new and interesting tid-bits to arise because of this.
And, you know, I didn't actually see that sticky. My brain seems to automatically remove them as "uninteresting." I'll be buggered, though, there it is. 
Kage
Forgive the serial post, but I just thought that I would mention that there is a thread over in the Support forum that does have people discussing on how to improve the forums. You can find it here.
In finding that thread, though, I stumbled on something that might help some people get to grips with the various problems with the new forum software, including the bouncing text, no keyboard shortcuts, etc. The only problem with the solution is that it requires that you actually get to grips with the HTML coding of the reply itself. To access the code, just press Control and, while it is still depressed, press the Tab key once. The FCKeditor interface will disappear and you will be able to directly type your reply. Of course, then you have to do things like adding the "paragraph" tags, type in the code for quote marks, the various tags for formatting, etc., but in many ways it acts like the UBB interface while giving you a whole lot more options.
As a quick little experience, one wonders whether it might be a temporary solution to the horrible quote system that the software has going for it:
PM102 said:
So not a great amount of time to move those thousands of threads!
Just a quick test to see if it would work!
Yeesh, but it takes a bit of time putting in those tags and the CSS styles. 
Kage
Kage2020 said:
. ...
Incidentally, cleaning up the formatting thing would be nice, such that you could press Ctrl-I to start typing in italicised text, and then again to stop it. At the moment, as above, you have to go through the text, highlight it and then add the formatting. Very frustrating for those used to keyboard shortcuts, and an invisible change to those that go back and format the text in another way.
Kage
Well one interesing related thing I've found is the way the forum works currently if you ctl-x or clt-c something from another site (including embedded images) or from a .doc or .rtf it retains all of the formating for you. Much faste than adding in teh BBC code by hand or even the hated highlt and buton hunt. (I am with you there Kage)
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