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Seems like that the same scuttle type of venues are here in the US as well.The only one listed nearest me is hrs away..Yet there is a gamers den that is hosting one in my area that is nothing more than just that.. tables and chairs.. and extreme cover charge to boot .I asked my Hobby shop that has twice the space if they were going to have one.They told me no..They applied and never got a response..They had no word that the Yuppy den had gotten one…As far as they knew it was hrs away in 4 diff directions…From what I have seen and heard there will be countless areas across the US and abroad that were given the Kessel run and others that were passed up.. .Needless to say when wave 2 comes out there will be flooded orders for 2 mos, and then they will be drooling for the anticipation for wave 3, appetizers, and release…Never give up,Never surrender
…Never give up, Never surrender
First of all, I'd like to thank Oliver from Esdevium Games for coming to this thread himself after we talked via email to address some points, and to the store owners for showing up as well and giving their side of the story. Not sure I mentioned it before, but I am not averse to event holders charging a small tournament fee, but holding a "Kessel Run Tournament" without giving away the designated prizes is not kosher. I'm all for them doing other tournaments, but as the Wave 2 models are specifically designated to be used in the final round and as prize support, I think it is pretty uncool to use them as anything other than that. I mean, I'd be pretty upset if my prize Falcon or Slave I had been manhandled in multiple other tournaments before I could lay claim to them (hypothetically speaking, not saying I'm a shoe-in to win or anything). As such, I am very happy to see that this situation is being looked into; I hope that it gets cleared up.
As for the rest of the thread, I'm siding with FFG on this. It is remarkably common for companies to sell products to store with specific conditions on how they are to be used/distributed. If you don't like the conditions, you are not obligated to apply. And since these events were awarded in a highly competitive manner, it is unthinkable that a store would fail to honor the terms as laid out in the application. Saying that doing so is not only okay, but should be commended is akin to saying that stores should be fine selling video games before their release date, since "Hey, they paid for them, they should get to decide how/when they are sold!" Now, I'm not sure how binding the application is, but let's face it… If you are awarded a KR tournament for your store, you are pretty much bound by the conditions as set forth in the application. Not much else to it.
My FLGS is holding a KR event (the only one within about 100 miles, lucky!) and is neither charging an entry fee(which of course, I would be okay with/a small product buy in would also be okay with me) nor bending the prize rules in any way. This makes me feel like they care about their customers, and heck, it's already gotten me to spend $30 to flesh out my tournament squad. To all of those stores playing by the rules, I commend you!
Wow! That's still quite a list of participating stores in England! I'm hoping just to find one or two around Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Details of the London OG Games event are now up
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=330&efcid=6&efidt=754269
Hope to see you all there
Ol
UK stockists of FFG
oggames.co.uk
If a store opts to participate in the KR event, they should abide by the guidelines set frth by FFG. Otherwise opt to not participate.
A good solution for a 2 tournament and 1 prize package sceraio would be has Players 1 & 2 from each tournament face off in a championship round and determine First through Fourth place overall.
Just my $0.02
There too much "kid in a candy store" behavior though. I may play in 0-2 KRT's but honestly I don't expect to come home with free miniatures and it is not the purpose of playing. It won't hurt me to wait a bit longer and spend the money for teh models I like. The KRT would be great fun as the first opportunity for an event with this fine game.
If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong.
Enimo Et Fide
Someone in Idaho desided to fake it just to get the prize support on ebay. always someone ready to take advantage of the system.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Millennium-Flacon-Expansion-Pack-Star-Wars-X-Wing-Miniatures-Game-FFGSWX06-NEW-/380534582963?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4082437196315466467%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D300830869327%26
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rdobyns said:
Someone in Idaho desided to fake it just to get the prize support on ebay. always someone ready to take advantage of the system.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Millennium-Flacon-Expansion-Pack-Star-Wars-X-Wing-Miniatures-Game-FFGSWX06-NEW-/380534582963?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4082437196315466467%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D300830869327%26
Not necessarily, there are already some Falcon's floating around as they were prize support for the World Champs last month. If Slave 1, A-wing or Interceptor were there, then you would have cause to complain.
godofcheese said:
Not necessarily, there are already some Falcon's floating around as they were prize support for the World Champs last month. If Slave 1, A-wing or Interceptor were there, then you would have cause to complain.
Check the sellers other listings…
The prices make me wonder if he isn't just pre-selling in advance of the February release. I'd think if someone had the ships from the kit in hand and was trying to sell them early that they'd be asking for a more premium price. Just a thought.
Jim
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Eh, people will bid it up regardless, possibly for more than what they would have set.
HA. Wow. Ok, so it looks like cross referencing the ebay seller with the list of tourneys, Discount Games Inc.
Yep, they are selling all of them on e-bay.
I sure hope FFG looks into this VERY closely.
Discount Games Inc is in Idaho but they do not appear on the tournament list. Admittedly, their ebay listings make it look nefarious but they could have easily acquired them by other means. Hopefully FFG checks out any suspicious circumstances and keep everything on the up and up.
I checked with another unnamed store that is listed as a tournament location but they have no announcements or dates for this event. I inquired about it and was told that although they do have the kit in hand, they have no dates set. The clerk who initially answered my call seemed dumfounded about this event and had to go ask someone else. He told me he never heard of it. Another case of dubious circumstances but we'll keep an eye out and rat out the guilty parties.
Enimo Et Fide
hi panic sorry to hear of your issues
i will be running a kessel run in harlow just outside london on the 16th looking at starting around 10.30 am-11am
we have 8 places and 6 are booked at this time
the store is marquee models you can contact them on 01279423334
hope this helps
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