mouthymerc said:

But a common complaint on modern wargaming forums is that no one wants to collect/paint/play the insurgents. A Star Wars game where everyone wants to be the Imperials is doing it wrong. h

All politics aside, if one side has high tech weapons, armour, equipment and training and the other are farmers with crap guns, and you need to paint 10 of the regulars and 500 of the crap guys, people are going to gravitate towards the regulars. They always do. h

RonRamron said:

I tend to agree with this statement, and have never said an ill word towards the guy, himself.   However, looking over his posts in this and other threads he is ALWAYS causing some kind of conflict with his shall we say, atypical view points.  Again, I don't suggest this is a reason to use personal attacks on the dude, but "Come on, Man?" (Football reference there) at some point someone has to call a troll a troll.   It's either that, or the cat is on some wild drugs! 

A-Wolf,  No offense intended, but you're ideas/posts are somewhat um….. erratic. Given that you have these eccentric concepts about every aspect of this game, and star wars itself, it's a wonder how anyone playing with you is able to recognize the setting as star wars.  You completely bastardize the entire omniverse.  Your reasoning is exceptionally hard to fallow, which is what leads to the aggressive replies to them.  I mean people try and debate with you, and you spit further gibberish that follows no logical pattern.  (see the jedi arguments, or this one, for prime examples).   Anyway, I'm sure you're a nice person, you don't attack others, nor take the bate when they attack you, and I applaud you for such, but I'm really left wondering if your cheese is anywhere near your cracker.   Again, no offense, just my take…  Sorry if it comes off wrong.

AluminiumWolf said:

No they are not. To each their own. Considering your view I wouldn't say you are wrong even if it isn't something I would run. An Imperial game could be quite interesting. Not all the threats they had to deal with were good and wholesome.

AluminiumWolf said:

One man's crap is another's gold. And are you really using painting miniatures to make your argument?

 Look, the thing is, appearances due to an unfortunate shift in the geopolitical situation aside, the Empire is not the US, and the Rebels are not Al-Qaeda. h

The image you want is that the Empire is Al-Qaeda if it has formed its Caliphate and invaded the US to impose Sharia Law. The Rebels are then the militas that have formed to fight them off. h

The Stormtroopers are not Seal Team 6. Those guys have gone underground and formed the core of the Rebel Commandos. The Stormtroopers are instead the Iraqi Republican Guard. If there is anyone, ANYONE in the western world who doesn't think they could take ten Republican Guard dudes with one hand tied behind their backs I would be quite surprised. h

This…

Boehm said:

…followed immediately by this….

Boehm said:

….equals this….

 Well, a couple of things:

 As a serious question, if we are playing in a game where the Caliphate has invaded the US and the players are part of the resistance (in a unit called the Wolverines) who are about to launch an attack on a stadium currently serving as a detention center filled with women who have demonstrated the ability to read and are about to be executed for their crime, which is guarded by the elite Caliphate Guard, how would people like the Caliphate Guard and the Wolverines to be rated for quality? h

AluminiumWolf said:

That depends. If you are going for a cinematic unrealistic but fun game, then the Wolverines would have every chance to pull off a rescue. If it is more realistic, then in all likelihood they would fail against a trained force.

As a not so serious question, if we are playing in a game where the US has invaded Afghanistan and the players are part of the resistance (in a unit called the Desert Snakes) who are about to launch an attack on a building currently serving as a detention center filled with men who have demonstrated the ability to make bombs and are about to be executed for their crime, which is guarded by the elite Marines, how would people like the Marines and the Desert Snakes to be rated for quality?

I've seen Roman Legionaires, German soldiers, US soldiers and Russian soldiers all portrayed in both good and bad lights and different skill levels. How you want to portray your soldiers is dependant on the game you want to run. There is no right or wrong way, only the most fun way for you and your own.

Corradus said:

Might have something to do if he is posting from a phone or some other hand-held device.

mouthymerc said:

Well, this is Star Wars… (The h is both a means to try to get around the forum software deleting whole lines of texts if you press backspace at the end of a line, and hopefully a reminder that whoever runs this forum should fix their shit.) h

AluminiumWolf said:

Which means nothing because, as we can see, many people have different views on how stormtroopers should be run. They are as able or inept as you or anyone else want them to be. The movies, literature, video games, etc. all portray them at different levels of ability so there is, really, no baseline. Only the one you create.

$hamrock said:

Be that as it may, several of his posts in this topic are bordering on offensive. I certainly hope I'm not the only one that thinks this.

Cyril said:

I would argue that Star Wars was never very polite to The British Empire or The Soviet Union. Or the Nazis, but they totally deserved it. Al-Q are just the modern bogeyman equivalent. h

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Sturn said:

Yeah I noticed that myself afterwards  I guess I feel stronger about military facts than SW … what can I say Im a grognard.. Im sorry Aluminumwolf, that was uncalled for … we SHOULD try to keep the tone civil 

Well to get back on topic….

Technically, any group of minions is going to be too powerful if run in too large a group. 400 guys with pointy sticks would be quite a handful, even if they all had 1 brawn and 1 agi. Even starting out a kilometer away, they would likely be rolling a couple hundred dice on their attack when they finally got in range.

Put your Stormtroopers in groups of 2 and they wont be nearly as nasty as if they were groups of 5, even if it were the same total number. Same thing applies to any other minions tho. A group of thugs is alot nastier as one minion as opposed to several.