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Psion said:
BrotherHostower said:
To Psion - Really really bad luck with first book choice, that's almost as bad as grabbing the Souldrinker's Omnibus heh, Ultramarines or Space Boyscouts (always follow the manual!) are really as lackluster as you can get. I mean really, what do you expect from a chapter who's greatest achievements include (but are not limited to) NOT arriving at the Battle of Terra in time to do anything, Getting their first company entirely eaten by tyranids, and losing the Damoclese Crusade? The 2nd Ultra's book was ok, but only because of the Deathwatch Killteam in it and interaction with the Mortifactor's chapter which added some actual characterization.
Yeah, with The Killing Ground, the character I actually liked reading about the most was the planet itself. Its ties to Chaos, the political turmoil sparked by rebellion and civil war (somewhat justified sedition even by the Imperium's draconic standards,) the warp-fueled hauntings. The others... I actually got annoyed when McNeil switched over to the two Ultramarines as they rarely did anything constructive until the climax. A company psyker who knew the end was coming but was ignored because the head cheese was an idiot, an actually LIKEABLE commissiar (fancy meeting one of those,) the somewhat to-be-expected incompetent/sociopathic Imperial commander (Guardsmen novels have dozens of thoses,) the priest enjoying the excesses of his office but weighed down by the atrocities he witnessed.... And then we had Sergeant Blandfaced and Captain Blah, way to ruin an otherwise decent cast.
Well, thanks for the reading recommendations but only had enough time for one book to give me a rough idea what RPing a Space Marine would be like. And considering that my comment spawned the same kind of (relatively) immature bickering I've gotten before when I was looking for a good 40k book; I see I still made the right decision picking a book at random even though... yeah, it was a mediocre read. Going to have to work through the rest of my reading list (Ky Vatta is THE ultimate Rogue Trader) before I look at Black Library books again.
And to reiterate: Still not entirely sold on this product. That being said I like what I'm seeing for Jericho Reach so far. I am almost as big of a Tau fanboy as I am a Guard one and both the Crusade and the warp gate relic sound like perfect opprotunities for Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader characters to find their ways into the region.
If your looking for a book that makes marines out to be fully three dimensional characters, then pick up the Wolves books by King and Lee. Ragnar is a great example of how unconventional a space marine can be and still not be a heretic. Plus, the novels throw him into some very unusual situations, some of which I could see adapting to a DW campaign (such as his time as part of the Navigators honor guard).
As to the diary...interesting. The gate is a little odd, unless they are planning on making some weird peice of Ancients technology, which would neatly add necrons in the mix of possible foes. But...eh, who knows...ah well, if nothing else can always ignore the gate, its not like the Imperium needs anything other than planets with Xenos and heretic scum occupying them to declare a crusade :)
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What about the ancient Slaan who were, I believe, responsible for the warp gates in WHFRP? They were a spacefaring race, as I recall. They may be the ones behind this warpgate. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Anyone?
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I advice Watsons Space Marine Novel about the Three of Trazlor, the way of three young men from Trazlor to Imperial Fists and Angels of Darkness from Gave Thorpe
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warpdancer said:
I advice Watsons Space Marine Novel about the Three of Trazlor, the way of three young men from Trazlor to Imperial Fists and Angels of Darkness from Gave Thorpe
Both of which are outdated and invalidated sources of background. Still in print, but outdated+invalidated.
Faith is an armour harder than any metal, but more delicate than any flower.
Kanluwen said:
warpdancer said:
I advice Watsons Space Marine Novel about the Three of Trazlor, the way of three young men from Trazlor to Imperial Fists and Angels of Darkness from Gave Thorpe
Both of which are outdated and invalidated sources of background. Still in print, but outdated+invalidated.
Ehm, may I ask you, since when is Angels of Darkness outdated?
The first line of the Malus Codicium:
'Don't *&@$ with Commissar Yarrick,'
Mithras said:
What about the ancient Slaan who were, I believe, responsible for the warp gates in WHFRP? They were a spacefaring race, as I recall. They may be the ones behind this warpgate. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Anyone?
Possible, though it would be more likely to be the Old Ones than the Slaan (I believe at one point in the fluff the Slaan were the Old Ones, but that got retconned. Now the Slaan are another fallen race, while the Old Ones are something altogether different).
Disclaimer: The views expressed in this post are my own. I do not speak for FFG in any capacity, officialotherwise. To be honest they don't really tell me much about anything, so you can assume I don't know squat.
I mean diddly. I don't know diddly. I did not mention squats. Squats are not making a comeback.
Unless they are. I really don't know!!! Seriously. Though squats were cool. Pity they all got eaten by the 'nids. Or did they?
Angels of Darkness has not been invalidated. Then again, the Dark Angels haven't really had any major lore updates since 2nd Edition, and almost all of the short stories and novels we have are solely focused on the Fallen (even the Horus Heresy books about them deal heavily with events leading to the Chapter splitting apart). I think there may be some stuff about them fighting threats to more than just their Chapter's honour in Deathwing, but I've never had the opportunity to read it.
Thank you for the designer diary, Mr. Watson... The "Evil GM" part of my brain is already plotting and planning, and that is a good thing.
"I reject your reality and substitute it with my own!" -Adam Savage, Mythbusters
Nice setting! I've run 40k-campaigns on the eastern fringe, and the area is a great excuse to justify the presence of most armies. I like the different moods of the three crusading "arms", and even though the gate might not be the most original link to DH and RT, it does the job and can easily be ignored by anyone who wants to isolate their Kill-team from Calixis.
Looking forward to reading more, up ahead.
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