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Teokrata is right about everything. I am part of the Italian Community and I often referee at tournaments in Milan. In Italy, the biggest problem is access to the game by new players. I ask the FFG support this game because it's fantastic and in Europe there are many enthusiasts.
Vamos!
.Crux. said:
+1 vote for Teo and + 1 for the German community counter. :)
It is very nice to see how many players from Europe want to keep Invasion "alive"! I have some ideas about international tournaments in Europe, but it is too early to speak about that… by the way - where are players not from Poland, Germany, Italy or France? Where are players from USA? Jeremy?
"The best ideas often come from the worst minds."
Teokrata said:
.Crux. said:
+1 vote for Teo and + 1 for the German community counter. :)
It is very nice to see how many players from Europe want to keep Invasion "alive"! I have some ideas about international tournaments in Europe, but it is too early to speak about that… by the way - where are players not from Poland, Germany, Italy or France? Where are players from USA? Jeremy?
+1 for more support in Canada .. My friends and I are really into the game, but we're a small playgroup (4 people) .. one of my local stores stopped carrying up to date battlepacks and had to special order them for me from their supplier.
on the bright side: The other store only carrys one or two packs and sells out immediately, so somebody must be playing besides us .. but w/ lack of organized play its hard to find these other people who play the game around here
When I heard good opinions about rules for new LCGs - Netrunner & Star Wars I am sure that in FFG are people skilled and talented to form good and clear rules for card games. So… I have one more point to my manifest about the future of Warhammer Invasion!
5. revised rulebook (with FAQ) - FAQ 2.0 is probably comming with some important changes and rules explanation for the new Cycle. I think that Warhammer Invasion evolved from core set rulebook far enough to update it and create revised rulebook, including new FAQ. After 30 battlepacks and 3 deluxe expansions, some important rules are now in FAQ, others are still in rulebook, players must search both, what is extremly unfriendly for the new players. If we want more players, if we want new players, there should be also new edition of rulebook. ;-)
"The best ideas often come from the worst minds."
Teokrata said:
5. revised rulebook (with FAQ) - FAQ 2.0 is probably comming with some important changes and rules explanation for the new Cycle. I think that Warhammer Invasion evolved from core set rulebook far enough to update it and create revised rulebook, including new FAQ. After 30 battlepacks and 3 deluxe expansions, some important rules are now in FAQ, others are still in rulebook, players must search both, what is extremly unfriendly for the new players. If we want more players, if we want new players, there should be also new edition of rulebook. ;-)
I have asked for this a few times, and have already basically written one. They seem pretty committed to the current Rulebook and FAQ concept. I think for now the community is stuck with just my Condensed Rulebook and FAQ.
Going forward, Torsten and I have talked about taking the Rulebook, FAQ, and Deckbox Rules Summary and just combining them into one master document. Without FFG's official stamp though, its debatable how much it would be used by the community. I don't know if anyone even uses the current Condensed Rulebook (aside from me), and it contains nothing but copy/paste of FFGs rulebook and FAQ.
Warhammer: Invasion rules question? Check out the Rules Summary with card mouseovers.
Entropy42 said:
I have asked for this a few times, and have already basically written one. They seem pretty committed to the current Rulebook and FAQ concept. I think for now the community is stuck with just my Condensed Rulebook and FAQ.
Going forward, Torsten and I have talked about taking the Rulebook, FAQ, and Deckbox Rules Summary and just combining them into one master document. Without FFG's official stamp though, its debatable how much it would be used by the community. I don't know if anyone even uses the current Condensed Rulebook (aside from me), and it contains nothing but copy/paste of FFGs rulebook and FAQ.
for example Blood Bowl rules changes many times, FFG changes rulebook and rules for few games too, In my opinion it is part of the game's "living" aspect. For now FAQ is so big, that concept of rulebook + FAQ with some answers and errata don't work as good as for other games.
New, revised rulebook is a part of my new core set and/or starter decks idea for the beginners to make Invasion easier to begin with and more popular with more clear rules.
"The best ideas often come from the worst minds."
I also agree with you. I think the large barrier to entry scares off many potential players. It would cost about $800 retail to get x3 of every card. I would never have started playing this game if I hadn't gotten a great deal on some used cards. Creating a precontructed deck for each faction is a great idea. Reprinting many of the best "rares" from the early sets inside them would also help many experienced players. I feel having competitive, ready-to-play $15 decks would entice new players into trying Warhammer.
I would love to see a true European Championships approved by FFG. Getting 100+ participants for it would be phenomenal.
Teokrata said:
New, revised rulebook is a part of my new core set and/or starter decks idea for the beginners to make Invasion easier to begin with and more popular with more clear rules.
The problem with Warhammer's rules is that they are pretty complicated (often for no good reason), and including everything in one giant rulebook with the core set would probably be too much for new players. That said, once players get beyond the core set experience, there should be a better rules resource than the FAQ.
Warhammer: Invasion rules question? Check out the Rules Summary with card mouseovers.
there will be really big tournament in Poland: Assault on Wroclaw 27-28/april/2013. as I know it is the biggest international tournament in the world. the info will be given soon, but if u think about coming to Poland for playing WHI, it is the best place and time.
Well it's a sad that I wont have a chance to defend my vice-european champ title this year. I support what Teo says in his post. This game still has a big potential and big deluxe expansions would be really great,because meta would be more stable.
Tubbyfu said:
Teokrata said:
.Crux. said:
+1 vote for Teo and + 1 for the German community counter. :)
It is very nice to see how many players from Europe want to keep Invasion "alive"! I have some ideas about international tournaments in Europe, but it is too early to speak about that… by the way - where are players not from Poland, Germany, Italy or France? Where are players from USA? Jeremy?
+1 for more support in Canada .. My friends and I are really into the game, but we're a small playgroup (4 people) .. one of my local stores stopped carrying up to date battlepacks and had to special order them for me from their supplier.
on the bright side: The other store only carrys one or two packs and sells out immediately, so somebody must be playing besides us .. but w/ lack of organized play its hard to find these other people who play the game around here
Why not order the organized playkits yourselves and do some OP that way ? If you email FFG they might set you up with a B2B account so you can do that. That is what I did for our area in Nova Scotia.
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