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Tide of Iron
A Game of World War II Tactical Battles
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What expansions would you like to see next?
by MGBM
Published on 14 December 2008 - 09:43:38
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Reply #16 | Published on 17 December 2008 - 09:52:23
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bcpravel said:

What are the rules for the Church? Is it just a Level 1 terrain building (i.e.; cross between building and hill)?

When an American officer is in the church hex in the command phase, the Americans have access to an artillery deck.

Umh, well, later perhaps...

Reply #17 | Published on 17 December 2008 - 10:11:32

YES!!! Finally!!! I'm so pleased to see conditional parameters for officers and cards!!!

I cannot wait to get a copy of normandy (sadly, after the new year...)

Odi Et Amo.

Reply #18 | Published on 17 December 2008 - 12:21:01

While I would buy any ToI product that FFG decides to put out, my preference would be for a Pacific Theater expansion.

Don't get me wrong, the Eastern Front is awesome and I would love to see more all-tank scenarios such as Operation Crusader from Days of the Fox, but I think a setting that focuses on the War in the Pacific would really help distinguish ToI amongst the glut of WWII wargames out right now.  It seems that everybody is doing the Eastern Front, but not as many WWII games have tackled the Japanese (and the Marines).  Even AAM, which encompasses a fair amount of variety in its unit list, has short-changed the IJA.

From a sales standpoint, if FFG times it right they might even be able to ride the wave that HBO's $250 million "Pacific" will surely create.  Plus, I wonder if it would be better to wait and make the Eastern Front a big boxed set like the main ToI game, almost like a 2nd edition where new players who weren't interested in ToI's Western Europe setting and were discouraged by the rumors of imbalanced scenarios might be enticed to jump on board.

Anyway, just some crazy thoughts.

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Reply #19 | Published on 17 December 2008 - 13:01:36

As an informal and unscientific poll, I tallied up the "votes" of what expansion people would like to see next (as well as their runner-up) and came up with these results:

FIRST CHOICE

Eastern Front - 4 votes

Pacific Theater - 4 votes

Battle of the Bulge - 1 vote

 

SECOND CHOICE

Italian Scenarios / Italian Forces - 3 Votes

Additional Terrain / Miniatures - 3 votes

Eastern Front - 2 Votes

Additional Western Europe - 1 vote

French / Early War - 1 vote

 

It seems that people are tied between the Eastern Front and Pacific, with the Italians and extra terrain sets also being a favorite.

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Reply #20 | Published on 17 December 2008 - 14:50:47
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I've heard that Tom Hanks and Stephen Spielburg are doing another WW2 miniseries along the lines of "Band of Brothers" called "The Pacific." It is rumored to be released in 2009. If that is the case, my speculation is that a Pacific expansion could do quite well in 2009.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.

Aristotle

Reply #21 | Published on 17 December 2008 - 15:21:27
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I'll buy any expansion, but the one I definately want most is an Eatern Front expansion!

known on most other wargame related forums as boersma8 (AAM, memoir'44, BGG etc.)

Reply #22 | Published on 17 December 2008 - 22:56:04

I wouldn't mind seeing an Italian/Mediterranean Expansion featuring level 3 hexes and armored cars with AT guns.

Improved sniper cards and winter tactics and tank tactics deck for the Eastern Front.

Marines and amphibious tactics, island hopping, and jungle tactics in the Pacific.

Not to mention respective armies and reinforcement decks for the aforementioned expansions.

Odi Et Amo.

Reply #23 | Published on 17 December 2008 - 23:16:19
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First vote Eastern front.

Second early war French.

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Reply #24 | Published on 18 December 2008 - 01:36:50

I would appreciate the Pacific expansion - which would probably have to be "the first swallow" in this style. Fights in Solomons islands,

Mariannes or Iwo Jima would be surely another kind than those in Stalingrad, Moscow or Kursk (the Eastern expansion), which I would choose

as the second vote.

Improvisation is a mark of a true warrior. Jarlaxle Baenre.

Reply #25 | Published on 18 December 2008 - 03:57:21

Yipe said:

While I would buy any ToI product that FFG decides to put out, my preference would be for a Pacific Theater expansion.

Don't get me wrong, the Eastern Front is awesome and I would love to see more all-tank scenarios such as Operation Crusader from Days of the Fox, but I think a setting that focuses on the War in the Pacific would really help distinguish ToI amongst the glut of WWII wargames out right now.  It seems that everybody is doing the Eastern Front, but not as many WWII games have tackled the Japanese (and the Marines).  Even AAM, which encompasses a fair amount of variety in its unit list, has short-changed the IJA.

From a sales standpoint, if FFG times it right they might even be able to ride the wave that HBO's $250 million "Pacific" will surely create.  Plus, I wonder if it would be better to wait and make the Eastern Front a big boxed set like the main ToI game, almost like a 2nd edition where new players who weren't interested in ToI's Western Europe setting and were discouraged by the rumors of imbalanced scenarios might be enticed to jump on board.

Anyway, just some crazy thoughts.

As much as I love the idea of an Eastern Front expansion, I wholeheartedly agree with this post.

Futility

Move him into the sun
Gently its touch awoke him once,
At home, whispering of fields unsown.
Always it woke him, even in France,
Until this morningthis snow.
If anything might rouse him now
The kind old sun will know.

- Wilfred Owen

Reply #26 | Published on 18 December 2008 - 14:55:41

Personally, I'd rather see ToI focus on operations or the like rather than specific theaters. So far, they've basically done one of each. The Eastern Front approach, as noted, has a lot of competition, but battle/operation-focused packs, with the chance for more linked scenarios, open up some slightly fresher avenues.

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Reply #27 | Published on 19 December 2008 - 11:17:16
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After seeing what they did with the Normandy campaign I completely agree. I love the idea of getting boards, terrain, units, rules etc. for a specific campaign.

That being said, I'd love to see an Eastern Front or Pacific campaign next. I'd be up for an early war or Italian campaign as well.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.

Aristotle

Reply #28 | Published on 19 December 2008 - 22:15:11

Well, if someone's counting votes, I'll be a good American.... Pacific Theater. (Though I share the excitement for all the ideas expressed in these posts.)

"Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm."  - Winston Churchill

Reply #29 | Published on 20 December 2008 - 02:05:07
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bcpravel said:

I've heard that Tom Hanks and Stephen Spielburg are doing another WW2 miniseries along the lines of "Band of Brothers" called "The Pacific." It is rumored to be released in 2009. If that is the case, my speculation is that a Pacific expansion could do quite well in 2009.

Holy Toledo! How'd I miss this one!?! BoB, IMHO, is the best piece of film ever done, hands down. 

"The Pacific", eh? If so, this is a must see/own.

 

Young, Rodger W., Private, 148th Infantry, 37th Infantry Division (the Ohio Buckeyes) born Tiffin, Ohio, 28 April 1918 died 31 July 1943, on the island of New Georgia, Solomons, South Pacific, while singlehandedly attackingdestroying an enemy machine-gun pillbox. His platoon had been pinned down by intense fire from this pillbox Private Young was wounded in the first burst. He crawled toward the pillbox, was wounded a second time but continued to advance, firing his rifle as he did so. He closed on the pillbox, attackeddestroyed it with hand grenades, but in so doing he was wounded a third timekilled.
       His boldgallant action in the face of overwhelming odds enabled his teammates to escape without loss; he was awarded posthumously the Medal of Honor.

Reply #30 | Published on 08 May 2011 - 13:26:51
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7times7is49 said:

MGBM said:

 

What would you like to see next for ToI?

 

 

Well...

For starters...

TIDE OF IRON expansion ideas

  1. Dragon’s teeth (same size as tank traps, razor wire? impassable for vehicles?)
  2. Crater (same size as entrenchment, pillbox? Mv penalty for vehicles?)
  3. Underground Bunker
  4. Boats
  5. Civilians
  6. Different ammunition for tanks. HE, AP--probably covered by op cards
  7. Trench (same size as entrenchment, pillbox? Or in shape of razor/tank trap? No MV penalty if moving contiguously to/from another trench hex, bunker, pillbox, or entrenchment. Does not trigger OpFire.  )
  8. Wall (same size as razor wire, tank trap? Impassable for vehicles, -1 mv to inf?)
  9. Anti-Tank Mines (for AT specialization?)
  10. P.O.W.’s (taking routed squads.)
  11. Operation Cards
    1. Snow
    2. Frostbite
    3. Night. Firing Range/LOS is halved? (Supposedly in designer series)
    4. Low Ammo. May only make Concentrated Fire actions or support attacks.
    5. Zeal. Gain 1 CP for each enemy squad routed or destroyed.
    6. Blitz. Your squads do not receive movement restrictions for Fire and Movement or Assault Actions
    7. Hero. Similar to Elite Tank. +1 FP +1 MV
    8. “Zimmerit” thin concrete over tanks vs. magnetic mines (+1 armor vs. infantry?).
    9. Exhaustion/Illness.
    10. Camouflaged vehicle or equipment? Concealed vehicles/equipment?
    11.  
  12. Strategy Cards
    1. Scorched Earth. Target controlled command objective. Remove command objective from the game.
    2. Retreat. Play during opponents turn between actions. Target non-fatigued squad gains +1 movement and may only Advance to a hex not containing enemy units.
    3.  
  13. Molotov Cocktail (and rules on fire?)
  14. Tank crews escaping when vehicle is heavily damaged (1 squad of regular infantry?)
  15. Allow set-up of entrenchments during deployment
  16. Demolish enemy command objectives
  17. Reinforcement hexes must be controlled in order to receive support
  18. Flares (for night rules? Normal los & visibility w/in area of effect?
  19. BAR or LMG differentation. Lower range and firepower, allow fire and movement? (R/F=4/3 vs. inf. 2/1 vs. vehicles?)
  20. SMG? Lower range and firepower, allow fire and movement? (R/F=3/2 vs. inf 1/1 vs. vehicles?)
  21. half track mounted guns 105mm, 47mm, etc. i.e. 75mm Ranger Cannon Co.
    1. between 57mm & 88mm. R/F 6/6 vs. inf. 10/8 vs. vehicles.
  22. Destroyed Flamethrower squads cause damage
  23. Death of Officers=change of Operation Cards
  24. use of rough hexes when buildings/roads are destroyed (covered by Normandy!)
  25. eliminate rounds and play to the death
  26. New terrain tiles*
    1. Large/Wide Bridge
    2. Large/Wide River
    3. Hill with cover
    4. Dam
    5. Railway Station
    6. Railway Tracks
    7. Church with Steeple
    8. Swamp
    9. Ruined Building
    10. Industrial Building/Factory
    11. Radar Station
    12. Airfield
    13. Oil Depot
    14. Warehouse
    15. City Blocks
    16. Windmill
    17. Multi-Level Building
    18. Multi-Level City Block
    19. Ditch
    20. Ammo Depot (Covered by Normandy!)

note: this is from an old forum thread

Finally I found a way to speak in variants without using this word that scares so many people ...

27. Move and OpFire: In the Fire and Movement Rule a new option Move and stay in OpFire.
28. 
29. Wreckage: Destroyed vehicles stay in the terrain and can be used as cover.
30. The crew of a Heavy Damage Vehicle can be abandon it.
31. Weapons on the ground: when a squad is destroyed his weapons stay on the terrain.
32. Anti-Tank: Anti-Tank weapons can fire against buildings, trenches, pillbox.
33. Flamethrower: can defend in assaults.


 

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