WittyDroog said:

Plushy said:

Plushy said:

You're right and I am just acting spoiled but at the same time I'm not going to able to just sit around knowing there's another book with more options for regiment and character creation.

Honestly all it means is that I'm holding off on actually running Only War in this retail form until this splatbook comes out because I don't want to be deep in a campaign and then be distracted by a really cool regiment idea and reset. It's a lot easier to avoid when a splatbook contains a new mechanic type, such as introducing vehicle rules when none existed in the core book, rather than adding more enticing options to the core mechanics so soon. 

In the meantime our group will likely play the new Star Wars beginner box so FFG got my money anyway.

WittyDroog said:

Only War has had most of its content finished for a long while now. The Beta changed a few pages of content at the most. Much of the art was already done or in progress, which means they only thing left to work on was fluff before the long process of getting the book produced and shipped. Hammer of the Emperor was almost certainly started after most of the core book was done.

The fluff was done at the same time as the book. It just wasn't included in the beta.

We wrote Only War back in Oct/Nov 2011. Hammer of the Emperor came much later.

BYE

Core rulebook vehicles section says they don't cover the Valkyrie because its Navy.
You guys think we're gonna get our flyers?

Nomad_Druid said:

I don't think so. At least not in the core rules or Hammer of the Emperor. Adding literally another dimension to the complexity of vehicles and vehicle combat would probably take up quite a bit of space in addition to all the tables and traits that flyers would need. Tanks and move on the same plane and roughly the same speed as Infantry, flyers however do not.
I'd love to see them but I don't think they'll be in the 'advanced players handbook'.

Thats true.
Regardless, I think I'll have Valkyie carryers here and there for my sessions. Since there aren't any rules ill come up with something simple based on the Codex. Max capacity of about 12 people. 

Musclewizard said:

There are rules in Into the Storm for flyers and they barely occupy three pages. 

AtoMaki said:

Hm, you're right. Into the Storm just ignored the 3rd dimension.  There's a few things missing in the Into The Storm rules that are present in OW (critical hit tables for different facings) and some moreadvanced repairing but that's about it.

Even if the Valkyrie is Imperial Navy, they are involved in IG actions quite frequently. Add in that hostile flyers are in use by Orks and (especially) Eldar of all varieties, and they would do well to put out the flyer expansion sooner rather than later.

Also, some flyer love would give the Operate (Aeronautica) Skill some credit too. Because nobody likes useless skills (I'm looking at you, Operate (Voidships)). 

Would love to see a Navy book further down the line. The Imperial fliers are some of my favorite vehicles in 40k, and the potential for fun with a party of pilots would be amazing.

I hope we get the Valkyrie further down the line, although in a game they would likely be plot transport of a save-the-day gunship. If the latter, they're… two Heavy Bolters, an Autocannon, and some missiles, right?

Really hope the Tauros is in Hammer of the Emperor. It just isn't right to have Elysians without them.

Not terribly related, but are there Penitent Engine stats anywhere?

Plushy said:

I do hope we see a book covering Naval assets (both vehicles and character options) that operate with the IG. A modified Operator that can be used either to fly aeronautica or to call in air strikes or fire support from orbital assets would be awesome.

Speaking of that, did I miss rules in the main book for calling in regular tube or rocket artillery?

HappyDaze said:

Check the Indirect weapon quality. It says that if an artillery weapon has spotters, then its crew may fire it with better accuracy.