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The Russian said:
Is there a specialty for just a standard Guardsman? And I think someone mentioned it was "classless"? In the same way BC was?
Yea, it's classless in a similar way to Black Crusade, You can unlock skills and talents as you like, just some character archetypes are naturally attuned and can get some of them cheaper and faster. You can play a Guardsman or a Support Specialist. Support Specialists are Commissar, Ministorum Priest, Ogryn, Sanction Psyker, Storm Trooper, and Tech-Priest Enginseer. Guardsmen are broken down into Heavy Gunner, Medic, Operator, Sergeant, Weapon Specialist. If you want to play just an average rank and file grunt, go for Weapon Specialist.
Got a look at this yesterday.
The Dark Eldar enemies surprised me and make me very, very happy. I like the regiments we got, but was surprised by the lack of Armageddon Steel Legion. Easy enough to build, though.
Regiments:
Cadian Shock Troops
Catachan Jungle Fighter
Death Korps of Krieg
Elysian Drop Troops
Maccabian Janissaries
Mordian Iron Guard
Tallarn Desert Raiders
Vostroyan Firstborn
and the option to create your own regiment. I love that system.
I've converted Dark Heresy to the Only War system. Please take a look!
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B517sKRcjGNrcmZmV21GSkVoVVU/edit
I'm a little surprised the Valhallans didn't make the first round of official regiments.
It's nice to the Firstborn, the Elysians and the Tallarns all get in there though!
Looking back on having said that, I think it's safe to say there will probably be a future release with plenty of other regiments in them; Armageddon Steel Legion, Valhalla Ice Warriors, Necromunda Infantry, Brimlock Dragoons, Finreht Highlanders, Praetorian Guard…
scottybomb said:
Looking back on having said that, I think it's safe to say there will probably be a future release with plenty of other regiments in them; Armageddon Steel Legion, Valhalla Ice Warriors, Necromunda Infantry, Brimlock Dragoons, Finreht Highlanders, Praetorian Guard…
I have to say, the lack of the Armageddon Steel Legion, Valhallan Ice Warriors, Savlar Chem Dogs, and Necromunda Spiders surprised me. Vostroyans and Valhallans usually go together, Armageddon is pretty huge in 40k fluff, Savlar Chem Dogs are the most iconic penal legion, and Necromunda is pretty well beloved.
I've converted Dark Heresy to the Only War system. Please take a look!
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B517sKRcjGNrcmZmV21GSkVoVVU/edit
scottybomb said:
Looking back on having said that, I think it's safe to say there will probably be a future release with plenty of other regiments in them; Armageddon Steel Legion, Valhalla Ice Warriors, Necromunda Infantry, Brimlock Dragoons, Finreht Highlanders, Praetorian Guard…
I don't know that much about the Valhallans, but I just assumed it was because the Vostroyans are rather similar, plus there's the usual thing of not enough room for everything.
Would have been nice to see the Steel Legion though, because I wouldn't really call the Mordian Iron Guard an Armoured Regiment even with the squad Leman Russ, so a proper one would have been cool.
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How are Vostroyans similar?
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Due to the special nature of the zygotes that make up a Space Marine's geneseed, all Space Marines are male. - Deathwatch, Core Rulebook, Page 28.
So enough with the Female Marine threads…
Regarding the choice of regiments - there are a lot out there, and only so much room to work with, so some favourites were inevitably going to be missed. With the Steel Legion in particular, the vast majority of their defining background takes place during and after the second and third Armageddon Wars, which haven't actually happened during the 40kRP timelines, so I deliberately chose not to include them (the same reason I could use an Astral Claw Space Marine in The Jericho Reach - as of 817.M41, the Badab War hasn't happened either)..
Beyond that, part of the point of the Regiment Creation Rules is to allow people to create their favourite regiments. While a few things have been lost in translation as the rules have been revised between manuscript and the Beta version, the intent is that all the Famed Regiments are essentially just examples of what can be done with the Regiment Creation Rules (only the Tallarn and Krieg differ, and even then only in a single special rule from their homeworld/origins in each case). The example regiments, as I posted elsewhere, are specific examples, rather than generic ones - there are countless different Cadian regiments, for example - so the rules had to be solid enough to be able to create different regiments from those same origins.
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Disclaimer: Any & all comments I make on these forums are my own opinion, not those of Fantasy Flight Games. My comments & rules suggestions should not be taken as official, are for all intents & purposes nothing more than the words of a devoted fan & long-time member of this community.
A collection of my unofficial supplements can be found here.
N0-1_H3r3 said:
Regarding the choice of regiments - there are a lot out there, and only so much room to work with, so some favourites were inevitably going to be missed. With the Steel Legion in particular, the vast majority of their defining background takes place during and after the second and third Armageddon Wars, which haven't actually happened during the 40kRP timelines, so I deliberately chose not to include them (the same reason I could use an Astral Claw Space Marine in The Jericho Reach - as of 817.M41, the Badab War hasn't happened either)..
Beyond that, part of the point of the Regiment Creation Rules is to allow people to create their favourite regiments. While a few things have been lost in translation as the rules have been revised between manuscript and the Beta version, the intent is that all the Famed Regiments are essentially just examples of what can be done with the Regiment Creation Rules (only the Tallarn and Krieg differ, and even then only in a single special rule from their homeworld/origins in each case). The example regiments, as I posted elsewhere, are specific examples, rather than generic ones - there are countless different Cadian regiments, for example - so the rules had to be solid enough to be able to create different regiments from those same origins.
A fair and reasoned approach, I think.
Can you let us know if there are plans to eventually release further options for regimental creation? Different home worlds, regiment types, etc?
Plushy said:
Got a look at this yesterday.
The Dark Eldar enemies surprised me and make me very, very happy. I like the regiments we got, but was surprised by the lack of Armageddon Steel Legion. Easy enough to build, though.
Regiments:
Cadian Shock Troops
Catachan Jungle Fighter
Death Korps of Krieg
Elysian Drop Troops
Maccabian Janissaries
Mordian Iron Guard
Tallarn Desert Raiders
Vostroyan Firstborn
and the option to create your own regiment. I love that system.
Hmmm, okay I have to say I approve of this selection. No One Here's explanation for the absence of the Steel Legion makes sense and the rest feels like a pretty good cross-section of the Guard. Are the Maccabian Janissaries FFG's homebrew regiment?
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Psion said:
Hmmm, okay I have to say I approve of this selection. No One Here's explanation for the absence of the Steel Legion makes sense and the rest feels like a pretty good cross-section of the Guard. Are the Maccabian Janissaries FFG's homebrew regiment?
Yep, they're a Calixian regiment based off a Shrine World who are very pious.
The Maccabian Janissaries were added in the Dark Heresy adventure Dead Stars iirc.
Where is the Spinward Front with reguard to the other established settings?
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Adeptus-B said:
Where is the Spinward Front with reguard to the other established settings?
That information is not included the in the Beta. Most of the fluff - including the setting - need to wait for the full release.
scottybomb said:
Details of future plans are nothing to do with me unless I'm asked to work on them, so I'll always be in one of two situations with regards to anything planned for the future - either I don't know, or I know but can't talk about it. Either way, there's no information I can give.
Nathan 'N0-1_H3r3' Dowdell
Writing Credits so far: Into the Storm, Edge of the Abyss, Battlefleet Koronus, Black Crusade Core Rulebook, Hostile Acquisitions, First Founding, The Jericho Reach, The Soul Reaver, Only War Core Rulebook, The Navis Primer & Ark of Lost Souls
Disclaimer: Any & all comments I make on these forums are my own opinion, not those of Fantasy Flight Games. My comments & rules suggestions should not be taken as official, are for all intents & purposes nothing more than the words of a devoted fan & long-time member of this community.
A collection of my unofficial supplements can be found here.
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