JerusalemJones said:

 someone got my reference, although if I'm honest I do agree with Randall rather than Dante on the whole Empire/Jedi debate

Empire may be a better film in terms of it being a work of art, however Jedi is a better Star Wars film (it terms of it being more in the spirit of the original Star War film), if that makes any sense

 The opening of Jedi is enough to make up for any amount of muppets.  I'm with you.

Adam said:

How did muppets become something one has to make up for?  I will gladly take muppets over cartoons any day.

They didn't bother me, but people do complain about it.  

Im happy with the Rebellion era stuff, though i do want to see other eras, i happen to like clone wars though theres allot about the clone wars EU (both books AND cartoon) that I could happily do without. The Prequel stuff like Return of the Jedi has its moments and its very very annoying aspects.

The OT EU stuff has many great things I would love to see included.

Thrawn trilogy and dualogy goes without saying.

Jedi Academy (yes it has some wth stuff in it but overall i still enjoyed it

Shadows of the Empire (always enjoyed the media fenzy that was shadows)

Alliegence and Choices of One, would be great

X-Wing Rogue squadron series (cmon the Rogues would be perfect for scenarios)

Force Unleashed (while the books tended to suck the overall concept and the Starkiller character were pretty awesome)

Bounty Hunter Wars (what can i say, im a big Bounty Hunter fan and the whole Fringe scenario/enemy aspect will be awesome in game)

and theres tons others that can carry the game with unique and fun scenarios for many years to come.

Honestly id rather them use the basis of the Novels and even the comics (especially Dark Empire trilogy) rather then them trying to come up with
mini story scenarios that wouldnt fit in with the cannon. I always enjoyed playing games based on actual events in the Star Wars Saga like the Dark Empire invasion of Mon Cal in the X-wing Rogue Squadron game for game cube.

While im a devoted fan and player of the old decipher Star Wars ccg, I think the LCG version of Star Wars is a unique and fun direction, though i do wish they would resurrect Deciphers ccg and maybe start it off in the attack of the clones/clone wars era. But that is wishful thinking lol

But back to topic, if they really do their homework and focus on following the timeline of both movies and EU Novels and comics and even Video game events, then we could get a really vibrant and rich treasure of scenrarios, enemies, heroes, ships ect. (Cmon who here who played the old ccg or tcg didnt love to get EU cards)

To so end I think if they planned on sticking only with things based in movie they could have easily just saved themselves time and money on artist costs and just done photoshop screen captures from the movies (like decipher and WOTC) which i always enjoyed but limits the amount of EU they can fiscally produce (being to make a EU card takes either cgi or costume/model costs).

But I guess we have to wait to see what they overall release with the force packs.

But FFG if your reading please please please give us great EU scenarios and characters/enemies based on all of the cannonized stories the star wars universe has to offer us.

yagyu said:

I assume that was supposed to be Revenge of the Sith? 

actually it was return, it was lack of punctuation that lead to the confusion lol it was 3am when i typed it, was saying the prequels had some annoying flaws much like Return of the Jedi IE the Ewoks who can take out storm troopers lol. But even with the Ewoks i still enjoyed Jedi, Phantom Menace im sorry to say was just a mess, its really hard for me to find anything to enjoy in that movie aside from Darth Maul. Attack of the Clones would have been a much better movie if not for the horrible retarded Anakin/Padme love dialogue.

Plus the Yoda fight kinda didnt make sense, while it may have looked cool to see him flipping around like a hyperactive gremlin, when u jump u become ballistic and therefore woulda been more vulnarable to Dooku's attacks lol, Yoda shoulda just sat still blocked all the attacks and then had the force power battle after dooku realized he couldnt break Yodas defense. Revenge of the Sith also had things i liked and hated. The Padme Anakin stuff again sucked and dragged the movie down, especially the way he gets jealous of Obiwan,(though that may have been due to editing as the book delves into some of the reasons more). Biggest prob i had was the end of the Anakin Obiwan fight, again u have Anakin doing something so retarded by jumping into the air, and unlike Dooku, Obiwan takes advantage of this and chops him up. Ok fine, but then Obiwan whos sposed to be his Master/Father figure/Brother figure ect ect even professing to love Anakin just leaves him there to Burn to death. lol yeah that was just messed up. If i was Anakin i woulda hunted him down and attemtped to slice him in half as well.

The Clone Wars cartoon has some great aspects that i really enjoyed, the various Clones and seeing their personalities for one, Savage Opress who was just a great beast of a Sith Juggernaut. Asaaj Ventress's complexities as a character who i always enjoyed from her first appearance in the Clone Wars Dark Horse Comics to her apearances in the novels. While I hated the Pacafistic Mandalorians, i did like Pre Viszla and the Death Watch who also came out of the comics. One of my favorite episodes was the one with the Talz, i always loved Talz and that episode just had such a Empire Strikes back feel to it. Rex is just awesome, hes become perhaps my second favorite clone. I loved Cad Bane, I mean the dude is just amazing, and a great homage to dude who played the cowboy and the bounty hunter in the good the bad and the ugly and i think it was for a few dollars more, the old clint eastwood movies. Also LOVED the trilogy of episodes where the three force wielders take Anakin and Obiwan and Ashoka to that force planet. I forget the names of the episodes but it was the father the son/brother and the daughter/sister.

But then theres plenty of things in the Clone Wars i dont like as well, Ashoka Tano is really annoying and Kinda messes with the whole Anakin/Obiwan dynamic, I like her better in the latter episodes when she not so annoying and bratty u wanna force choke her. The Lemer guys were really annoying, as are most episodes involving Jar jar, though their take on jar jar is still a million times better then the Phantom menace jar jar. The last few episodes of Season 3 really bored me, the citidel trilogy with Tarkin jut didnt have any excitement to it, and the villain was lame. Even the kashyyyk episodes with Chewbacca felt really weak.

But anyway yeah really hope that FFG uses the cannonized stories for the scenarios and characters/enemies

While card games, minis and board games aren't specifically my forte, it is nice to see the license active again.  I am really hoping we get some sort of RPG announcement soon, so we can see what that might look like.  Looking forward to seeing what FFG has in store for the Star Wars license!

What? Nobody wants to see the Yuuzhan Vong? 

Id imagine if they followed the cannonized novella's then eventually yeah wed get to see the Yuuzhan vong. But since they are starting from the New Hope time frame im hoping they stick with all the great stories and stuff instead of making pointless chewbacca gets kidnapped and your team has to rescue him non cannon story scenarios lol. Following the time line events of the classic and EU would be awesome and wed always have new scenarios that we are familiar with and can get excited about the EU characters that we would get to see.

Titan said:

If you really dont know ill catch ya up a bit, They were a race of warriors from the deep regions of Wild Space. For years they were kept at bay by Grand Admiral Thrawn, but after he died they invaded the New Republic/Empire territories. They were religious zealots who hated technology and used organic ships and weapons, like Thud Bugs which were insect like projectiles. Its been awhile but if i remember correctly they were immune to the force but i could be wrong, its been a looong time since i read the series, plus its 6am so im not fully awake yet lol.

They had some cool aspects to them and also some what the heck over powered elements in the story line but it still would eventually be cool to see them in game as aside from WOTC Star Wars miniatures i dont believe they have been in any other star wars games.

yagyu said:

Sounds... unoriginal. I am not sure if this Vong race was originally a SW idea, but I have seen this type of thing enough in other science fiction games/stories/ etc to the point of where such an idea implanted in a background makes me nauseous.

"Ohh creepy bio-luddites who use biological weapons that emulate technology! Run! The Tyranids/ Starship trooper bugs/ Marvel Brood/etc. etc. ad nausaeum are coming to attack us!"

yagyu said:

jhaelen said:

The Yuuzhan Vong have been around since 1999. They are a novel invention that first appeared in R.A. Salvatore's Vector Prime, set 25 years ABY, but they were since revealed to have made incursions into the Galaxy in or around the Classic era, studying the technology of what was the dominant force in galactic society at that time (the Empire), in preparation for their eventual conquest.

I agree, they don't really feel like Star Wars at first, but having been aware of them for half my life now, I've long since made my peace with their existence. :P