Hmm.

Tzeentch: Thousand Sons, Alpha Legion 

Khorne: World Eaters, Iron Warriors

Nurgle: Death Guard, ???

Slaanesh: Emperor's Children, ???

Who should Nurgle get? Word Bearers don't exactly fit. Slaanesh is a tie between Word Bearers and Night Lords.

Plushy said:

I think it fairly straightforward.

Tzeentch: Thousand Sons and Alpha Legion

Khorne: World Eaters and Iron Warriors

Nurgle: Death Guard and Night Lords (because Nurgle empahtize fear and the Night Lords are all about causing fear)

Slaanesh: Emperor's Children and Word Bearers (because the Word Bearers are very charismatic and so fits best with Slaanesh, who should be the most socially adept Chaos God)

As for the archetypes I was actually a bit disappointed by them, and most so about the human ones. I would have favored wider archetypes rather than so shallow ones. "Packground backages" or something would in my mind have worked better to give the oppertunity to play the Traitor Legions.

Somewhere along the line there would have to be a way to become psyer without alighning yourself to tzeentch (because death guard have nurgle sorcerors f.e.). The 'sorceror heretek' we got in tome of fate shows one way (in fact I think someone has invented exactly te same way on this forum a while back) but you should be able to start game as one without being either tss or weak legionless sorceror. We won't see it in tome of blood, but hopefully in the next book, or meaby some free pdf for tome of fate.

ShadowRay said:

There's already a way to do this, it's called "playing a Sorcerer". Starting sorcerers aren't "weak and legionless" they're just not members of a specific advanced splat.

Why should Death Guard Sorcerers get to be more powerful than other Sorcerers?

Mainly because they would be an 'advanced' archeotype, You can't argue that if we get TSS and sorceror+3600xp, they aren't equal (which pains me a little to say the truth). TSS gets bonus base stats (paid for in xp, but not counted as such so his stat treashold is higher), bonus gear (which can be equalised by giving sorceror more starting aquisitions) and better archeotype ability (which sorceceror cannot get).
I'm not saying that I want to start as e.g. alpha legion and as a bonus gain psy rating; I'd happily sacrifice some of his abilities to gain psyker, and some skills/talents to exchange them for psy rating 1 and some psy powers.
It's my problem with new archeotypes, because I'd rather see differend legions as some sort of background packages than new archeotypes.

That's sort of the thing - the Thousand Sons Sorcerers are *supposed* to be better than other Sorcerers, because it's all they do.

If you want to play a Death Guard sorcerer, you just play a Sorcerer.

I have a feeling, that 4 Gods Handbooks, instead of one Player´s Handbook were chosen, becouse of coming CHSM Codex and possible revamping/reintroduction of Mark of Chaos Undivided for miniatures 40k. So it is possible that after the four god handbooks we will get IH/RoB sized Handbook for Undivided and unalinged players, which will incloude Black Legion.

Just speculating… 

I don't think they'll do Unaligned CSM legion archtypes beyond Alpha Legion and the Iron Warrirors, what exactly is their in a word bearer that can't properly be replicated by a Champion?

Ryder said:

To be fair, you could probably represent a member of the Alpha Legion fairly well with a Champion as well. The new Archetypes are, I suspect, mostly there to show the ways in which individual Legions can be modeled in the system, and to give fans of those legions something fun to play with.

Ryder said:

Its not going to just be, Generic Legion Dude. Its going to be iconic members of that legion. So for Thousand Sons, its the Sorcerer. For Word Bearers, it'll be the Nega-Chaplain. And its valid to want a Dark Chaplain or whatever they're called to be something special, as they're the only Chaplain type to have survived their legion intact, and are the ones that define the Word Bearers.

All of the loyalist founding chapters and several successor types deserve their own writeups, so all the chaos legions deserve their own specialty things. They should have abilities that are serious business.

Deinos said:

Thousand Sons Sorcerer

Alpha Legion Infiltrator

World Eaters Berserker

Iron Warriors Warsmith

Death Guard Plague Marine (might get a rename)

Emperor's Children Noise Marine

Night Lords Raptor

Word Bearers Dark Apostle

Black Legion Failure

Seems like our final list.

Plushy said:

Okay that actually is a fair list, I forgot about the Dark Apostles. Personally I would rather have something like a Fallen Dark Angel instead of the Night Lords but it still works.

Black Legion failure! LOL!

H.B.M.C. said:

I agree exactly. The notion that the Black Legion is some kind of failure is as unfounded as tiresome.

Gurkhal said:

They lack any particular niche, and their fluff really boils down to 'a lot of failed Black Crusades.'