Atendarius said:

No boost in sales because no more triplicates-buyers ^^.

The increased price point takes care of some of that, you might not have any more x3 buyers but now you get 5$ more from your x1 buyers. Also I think the 3x packs will bring more people into the game.

Darksbane said:

I agree! I think the idea of releasing a catch up pack that brings all cards released to the maximum three card level is a fantastic idea that will take the LCG concept from 'original' to 'groundbreaking'!

To contribute to the record, I'd buy an expansion to supplement my non- x3 cards. Even more I'd pay to bring my non-destruction/order only neutrals to x6.

I have three of nearly every set of Call of Cthulhu and would not consider it a slap in my face if they released 60 card packs with x3 of everything.  I would even buy some more for deck building but haven't picked them up because $30 is a bit much for three cards.... at $15 I would but more.

Also, having to buy three complete core sets to get key cards is silly. I don't need three pretty boxes, three boards, 18 cthulhu domain markers, etc.  If the core cards were available separately as cards only for around $20 I think the game would boom.

As it stands, the LCG format is gathering a reputation of 3 core sets with lots of useless duplicate components being required to get started.

+1 for re-printing rare cards.  I need more opponents!!

I suppose another way to go about it is to slowly fill out the non-3x cards through future expansion packs. We already got another innovation and I think I have four copies of Treasure vaults. Perhaps instead of 20 new cards in x3 battle packs we get 19 new cards and 3 cards to fill out past battle packs. I would prefer to buy them all in one expansion though.

I live in China and prefer just to split all the order/order only neutral and destruction/destruction neutral cards with whoever I'm playing to build decks and play. This is why (as I said before) I wouldn't mind x6 non faction only neutral cards to avoid fighting over innovation and contested villages. I suppose my position is not in line with the masses :-(

 I haven't gotten into this game yet but was considering it. The main thing stopping me from doing so is the issue of this thread with the core set and old expansions not having 3x cards each and yet it is within deckbuilding rules to have 3x of any card. The proposal of making new versions of the core set and old expansions with 3x like the new expansions are would remedy this however, so until then I'll be waiting.

In addition I think that they should also release "neutral" packs with just 3x of all of the neutral cards that would likely be in both order and destro decks

Wizzey said:

If Neutral cards are the best the game has to offer, it will kill variety. All decks are starting to look alike.

One of the original concepts for both the Game of Thrones and Warhammer: Invasion core sets was that they would be completely playable without having to buy any expansion sets whatsoever. If you look at it, this goal has been accomplished people not wanting to but any packs or expansion do not have to in order to be able to play the game. And players do not have to customize their deck if they do not want to (though they likely will not be playing actual tournament legal decks).

Remember that the LCG format was something completely new, and even FFG didn't know how best to package and sell this game when it released the first Core Sets. Game of Thrones took the "playable out of the box" approach, while Call of Cthulhu took the "full set but not full play set" approach. When you think about it $40 for 160 cards, or 25 cents per card it's not that bad a deal. I play CoC very casually, so although I've wanted a second core set, I've not bought one, and rarely bought more than 1 of each asylum pack. I play Warhammer between the casual and the competetive, so again one core set and 1 or 2 battle packs. Game of Thrones I play competitely, and even though I buy 2 or 3 of each Chapter Pack, I've only gotten the one Core Set.

I think that the new coalation (3 of each card) is the best way to go, but except for completists it is not necessary to purchase 3 of everything to play these games, either in a competitive or casual atmosphere. I won't be upset if they do decide to rerelease some fo the old packs in the new format, or release a special expansion witht he additional cards (although it almost seems like they would do better to release am expansion was was just 2 copies of each of the 60 cards that were x1 cards the first time around). But not wanting to play the game because of the old release formats seems to be cutting off your nose to spite your face. You're depriving yourself of the joy of the games because you feel you need to spend more money than you really have to.

Of course, we're all pretty sure that there will be a fourth LCG coming out in the near future, so perhaps waiting for a product that is fully of the new model (though I still expect the core sets to be more pre-built dekcs vs. full playsets) might be the way to go.

JerusalemJones said:

Hey,

1st, happy birthday JJ.

Second, this is a false idea, and it's not orgiginal : Magic the G. proposes multiple preconstructed decks, fully operationnal. You can buy  two of them and play without having to buy anything more.

The original part is that you can have ALL the cards and then let your creativity do the job without telling yourself that some cards should be fantastic for your deck but impossible to afford.

But creativity is linked to construction rules...and if you want to explore all the possibilities, you need cards enough to make all the possible decks.

If rules say you can have every cards tree times, it would be logical to have that.

Now, you're not forced to do that (like preconstructed decks don't mean buying extra rare cards at 150 $ / piece).

So even if a "get-all-in-3-box" issues, you don't HAVE TO buy it and can still keep playing your way.

But now, I think that we'll never see such a box.

So I'll just be happy with the future packaging, that's fair enough (especially for Warhammer Invasion that don't already have loads of expensions).

Good day.

Pikaboo said:

not to speak for Jerusalem but original can have multiple meanings in that context. I took his usage of original to mean 'first' and not 'new'.

JerusalemJones said:

I'm someone who has just started sinking my teeth on Call of Cthulhu LCG, and I'm afraid to look at the older expansions. I already talked to a Portuguese distributor, who is kind enough to order every month the new expansions, starting in the Yuggoth Contract subcollection, but I'm secretly hoping they release a pack with the unique cards, as is being proposed here.

I have to admit, I'm doing it for the collection, and owning 3 of each card is my ultimate goal, but not only is buying 3 of each older expansion beyond my monetary capacity, I have no idea what to do with the extra 6 "common" cards. One can't "trade" them, because there is almost no point (besides, it's very rare to find someone who even knows about this game in Portugal), and I'm a bit obsessive compulsive, so there's no way they'll mingle with the cool crowd. And I'm not about to throw them away.

So, to sum up, I'm voicing my opinion with a resounding YES!, I'm hoping that somewhere in time, there's an expansion with 2 copies of the rare cards, so I can truly collect them all (this sounds almost pathetically familiar)

I just bought the Core Set, Assault on Ulthuan, and the 1st Battle Pack from the Corruption Cycle, and I can vouch for it being more than enough for casual players to have one copy of each set.  I would advise against buying multiples unless you were going to play in a really competative tourney or something.  Most of the single copy cards are heroes anyway, in which case being unique, there cannot be more than one copy on the table, and you can only have one hero per zone anyway.  If FFG did release a "catch-up" set to round out the collection, I'd definitely go for it, but I'm not breaking my wallet and buying up with more product than needed just do so myself.  I love the game though, now having played it a bit I'd say it's one of the best card-based games I've ever played and I highly recommend it!

Pikaboo said:

Thanks! I forgot that it puts a little birthday cake icon next to your name on your birthday.

Pikaboo said:

Darksbane got it right about my use of original. When FFG was creating the LCG core sets, they wanted to have a single box that could be played by itself, without the needs to ever purchase another product. Now, being the kind of person I am I would have MUCH preferred a x3 set, or all sets going the way of CoC where it was one box with 1x of each card, so by buying three sets I wasn't getting multiple duplicates. However, even saying that, there are some key cards in the Game of Thrones CS that I have no qualms having mulitple copies of. Outside of the Core Sets, I think every product should now come with x3 of every card. And, yes, the Core Sets are a little irritating to have to buy multiples to get a playset of every card, but I have only bought one Warhammer Core Set, and for the most part I am pleased with my card distriubtion, even thoughI will never likely win a major event because of this drawback. But I sure enjoy playing the game.

I totally agree. I only have 1 core set and 1of the asylum packs I've bought. If the price wasn't too high, I'd think about buy the extra rares. But I rather like having to decide whether or not to sacrifice a rare card as a resource or not.

jhaelen said: