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Imperial Troop Transports
Published on 01 January 2013 - 11:18:52
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Reply #16 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 00:09:38

Cryhavok said:

GW has rewritten the universe so many times since then that nothing 2E could possibly be cannon. That being said I use whatever version of the universe I prefer too.

They actually just reposted a lot of 2E fluff in the 6E rulebook, and the 3E Sisters 'dex even went all the way back to 1st edition Rogue Trader fluff. There are a lot of retcons, but I would say the material is more consistent than people generally give them credit for, and as long as they do not contradict something with a newer book I generally do not care how old a source is.. ;)

But yeah - individual interpretation. In theory, it'd even be possible to pick and choose from all across the board, ignoring some GW fluff yet not other, ignoring one thing out of a FFG book yet not another …

As Gav Thorpe once wrote on his blog, the 40k setting is a personal thing, hence the "tens of thousands of overlapping realities" and "the notion of canon [being] a fallacy". It took me a long time, but I see that now.

current 40k RPG character: Captain Elias, Celestial Lions Tactical Marine

previous characters: Comrade-Trooper Dasha Malenko (OW), Sister Militant Elana Melanthis (DH), Leftenant Darion Baylesworth (RT)

Reply #17 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 09:34:27

Cryhavok said:

Lynata said:

 

Blood Pact said:

Now Lynata, we've sparred over this before. And my point of contention was that you interpret the term "Regiment" too literaly, and in terms outside of the correct cultural context. Namely that "Regiment" in US military terminology is a direct synonym for "Division" (a military unit comprising 10,000 soldiers total). But GW is a British company, and the British Regimental system doesn't assign any fixed size to a "Regiment".

Ah, but unlike with all other Guard formations, GW has assigned a fixed number to the Storm Trooper regiment. It says it right in the old 2E Codex.

You are free to dismiss it, and indeed saying that the numbers GW provided are bollocks is just as okay an opinion to have as me stating that I'm sticking to them. Neither of us can be "wrong" on this. But at the end of the day, that's just something that we all have to decide for ourselves. Which is what I meant when I typed that sentence about it being a question (since it only is a question when you compare the conflicting material, and you have to pick a single answer).

We have sparred over this before, but whilst my understanding of this IP's supposed canonicity has changed since that time, and I have become much more liberal about "alternate" takes on the setting, my personal preferences have not.

But I will add for clarification that FFG's material seems to use a much higher number of Storm Troopers as well; at least I recall one of the freelance writers posting here that he likes to use Storm Troopers more often, which is why they pop up more regularly than Codex fluff might imply. So for anyone who operates on a preference for FFG's interpretation of the 'verse, I suppose this overrides the numbers we were given so far .. just like the Storm Troopers here can "now" be detached as individuals to a normal IG squad, Vostroyan regiments "now" include female Guardsmen, the Deathwatch is "now" not a part of the Ordo Xenos, and so on.

Peace!

 

 

GW has rewritten the universe so many times since then that nothing 2E could possibly be cannon. That being said I use whatever version of the universe I prefer too.

As it happens, I recall the bit of fluff in question, and it's been reprinted as current canon as recently as 4th edition (possibly even more recently, but I ran out of funds to keep up with the tabletop rulebooks and codices just before 5E).

Then the Prophet spake 'Frak this, for my Faith is a shield  proof against your blandishments!'- Alem Mahat, Cain IV:21

Reply #18 | Published on 09 January 2013 - 20:25:52

I wrote up the stats for the Galaxy-class Heavy Troop Transport awhile ago. Here they are. Just thought you might be interested.

GALAXY-CLASS HEAVY TROOP TRANSPORT

 

The Galaxy-class transport has been in use since the days of
the Great Crusade, ferrying billion of Imperial soldiers through
the stars. Well armed and armored for a transport, the Galaxy
is a rugged, well built ship and is well known through out Battle-
fleet Calixis as a dependable ship. Although Battlefleet Calixis
possesses few of these ships (they stopped building them
thousands of years ago), they are currently kept busy carrying soldiers
and supplies to and from the Margin Crusade.

The Galaxy-class in an invaluable addition to any Trader-Millitant's
fleet. With it's Bombardment Cannon and large number of troops,
the Galaxy is fully capable of waging wars of conquest completely
on it's own, and the last thing many an Imperial foe has seen is a
Galaxy ship sliding into orbit overhead.

Notable Ships: The Grand General Heracles has carried soldiers into
battle for over 2,000 years and bears many proud scars of past
victories. Currently carrying the 13th Genswick Armored Regiment
and the elite 2nd Genswick Rifles, the Heracles is currently under contract
to Calligos Winterscale and was last seen departing Port Wander for
Winterscale's Realm.

Dimensions:5.0km long, 0.9 abeam at fins approx.
Mass: 18 megatonnes approx.
Crew: 40,000 crew, approx., 100,000 troops
Accel: 2.9 gravities max sustainable acceleration.
Speed:5 Manoevvrability:-10
Detection+10 Hull Integrity:50
Armor:15 Turret Rating:1
Hull Space:54 Ship Points:50
Weapons Capacity: 1 Prow, 1 Port, 1 Starboard, 1 Ventral
Troop Transport: This vessel was designed for transporting troops
and no amount of retrofitting can fully change this. This hull comes
pre-equipped with two Barracks Components. The hull's space has
already been reduced to account for this, however, when the ship is
constructed it must be able to provide 4 power to these components.
Naval Auxillery: This ship may use both Transport and Cruiser
Components.

Essential Components: Jovian Pattern Class-3 Drive 60/12/0
Strelov 1 Warp Engine 10/10/0, Gellar Field 1/0/0
Mrk-1.r Life Sustainer 3/2/0, Voidsmen Quarters 1/3/0
BG-15 Assult Scanner 5/0/0, Invasion Bridge 4/3/0
Single Void Shield Array 5/1/0
29/31/0

Supplemental Components
2 Barracks 4/8/4, Munitorum 2/3/2
Drop Pod Launch Bay 1/3/2
2 Thunderstrike Macrobatteries (Port&Starboard) 4/4/2
Bombardment Cannon (Prow) 5/5/3
Jovian-Pattern Escort Bay (Ventral) 1/4/1
Medicae Deck 2/1/1
19/20/14

Notes: This ship gives gives an additional 275 Achievment Points when

working towards a Military Objective.

What is the color of the Dragon my Son?-The Emperor of Mankind

Crimson Father, ever crimson. No matter what sees the eye.-Ferrus Mannus, Primarch of the Iron Hands Space Marine Legion.

Reply #19 | Published on 10 January 2013 - 05:18:02
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Thanks for this. I'll be using it in a mini-campaign I am planning. Btw, which book are the Drop Pod launch bays in?

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Reply #20 | Published on 10 January 2013 - 11:18:51

Fresnel said:

Thanks for this. I'll be using it in a mini-campaign I am planning. Btw, which book are the Drop Pod launch bays in?

 

Your welcome.

Rogue Trader Into the Storm, pg 159.

What is the color of the Dragon my Son?-The Emperor of Mankind

Crimson Father, ever crimson. No matter what sees the eye.-Ferrus Mannus, Primarch of the Iron Hands Space Marine Legion.

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