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Published on 20 February 2009 - 08:42:55
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Reply #16 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 11:11:52

Ahh!! I see it now.  I was just assuming there were 7 engine nozzles and left it at that.  But you are right even if there were it does not explain why they appear at a angle.

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Reply #17 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 12:16:11

llsoth said:

 

Pneumonica not sure what you mean by 30 degrees off axis at the mid point?  You mean the optical illusion that the ship is bowed up in the middle or that the nose is bent down (depending on how you view it)? Well actually, it is crooked by 1 or 2 degrees but still I am probably thinking of something else.

 

 

Ripper.McGuirl said:

 

I think what he means is that the bulk of the ship is shown in straight profile, but the engines are shown from a partial 3/4 view.

 

 

 

Actually, you're both right.  Looking at it as a two-dimensional object, there is a slant of about five degrees at the midpoint of the ship.  Shifting back to three dimensions, the engines are on an dimetric plane (in art terms, the "paritial 3/4" view) while the rest of the ship is in true profile.  If you were to render this image as a three dimensional vessel such that you could orient it in such a way to reprodue the image, you'd have a 30 degree bend off the primary axis of the ship at its midpoint.

Sorry, I do drafting myself and I come from a family of drafters.

EDIT:  Sorry Ilsoth, didn't notice you'd already seen it.  Mea culpa.

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Hatred has purpose and hatred has eyes.
Hatred has honor and hates to hear lies.
Hatred has energy.  Hatred is near.
Hatred has carnge and hatred is clear.
Hatred is frustrating love for fear.
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Reply #18 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 12:22:59
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The engines are definitely drawn badly as far as perspective is concerned.  Makes the ship look like it's bent.

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Reply #19 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 14:33:58
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Kage2020 said:

 Perhaps less early medieval and a bit more Elizabethan...?Kage
That actually sounds interesting.

I might need to do some research into the Elizabethan ship captains. Me thinks that the exploits of those individuals will give some interesting foundations for RT games.

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Reply #20 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 14:38:28

Starman Kane said:

 

Kage2020 said:

 Perhaps less early medieval and a bit more Elizabethan...?Kage

That actually sounds interesting.

 

I might need to do some research into the Elizabethan ship captains. Me thinks that the exploits of those individuals will give some interesting foundations for RT games.

 

 

And one might also take some inspiration from the earlier Tudor period as well.  All those cod pieces cannot be missed out in Rogue Trader.  Those players that are old enough can even watch Tudors for a bit of spice! 

And, the tongue-in-cheek part of me wishes for that must heinous and feared of pirates, if only his surprising success despite seeming stumbling ineptitude.  Yes, let us have the slapstick, hairless pirate Bald Rick. 

Kage

Reply #21 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 15:34:46
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Incidentally:-

The moment of truth for the great ship versus galleon controversy came in 1591, when the Revenge, for reasons that need not concern us here, was trapped in the Azores by a fleet of fifty-three Spanish warships and fought them for fifteen hours before she surrendered. It might have been supposed that she must have fought the action by keeping here enemies at a distance, but the accounts say that she was boarded a number of times and and once by the Spanish flagship the San Felipe, a vessel three times her size. It must have been a desparate moment for the English and the enemy should have triumphed, but the terrible havoc that the Revenge's lower guns continued to make in the hull of the Spaniard caused here to haul off. Its amazing that Revenge's crew, and through sickness less than a third of them were fit to begin the action, could sustain morale under the circumstances. In the end they had used up all their powder, which was another reason for not following her commanders famous order to 'Split me the ship, Master Gunner'. During the action at least two, possibly four spanish ships were sunk by Revenge's guns, and in the storm that blew up after it sixteen more as well as Revenge foundered, presumably because of gun damage.

(With thanks to Archibald's Fighting Ships of the Royal Navy.)

 

-Erik

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Reply #22 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 16:09:57
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Dezmond,

Is that the HMS Revenge commanded by Sir Richard Grenville?

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Reply #23 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 16:13:16
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Starman Kane said:

Dezmond,

Is that the HMS Revenge commanded by Sir Richard Grenville?

Aye. I think if I rememeber correctly he was somewhat... overconfident in trying to fight his way out rather than run for it, but it is a stiring story neh?

-Erik

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Reply #24 | Published on 21 February 2009 - 16:43:08
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Dezmond said:

Aye. I think if I rememeber correctly he was somewhat... overconfident in trying to fight his way out rather than run for it, but it is a stiring story neh?

True. Still, his live provides a good example for the foundation of a RT character.

 

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Reply #25 | Published on 22 February 2009 - 05:29:09

Definitely - but you could see a Rogue Trader causing absolute havoc with the weaponry on board their vessel as well as having that 'Master and Commander' feel of being isolated and dueling with an implacable enemy.

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Reply #26 | Published on 24 February 2009 - 08:42:55

Starman Kane said:

That actually sounds interesting.

 

I might need to do some research into the Elizabethan ship captains. Me thinks that the exploits of those individuals will give some interesting foundations for RT games.

Why not start with those at the top of the list? Might I humbly suggest Raleigh and Drake?

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