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Tannhauser
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Zorka 's magnifier clarification
Published on 28 August 2011 - 07:34:46

Zorka may attack an opponent  who he is adjacent to a voivode like was adjacent to her?

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Reply #1 | Published on 29 August 2011 - 10:49:48

Yes we can! Sorry, SHE can.

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Reply #2 | Published on 30 August 2011 - 13:05:59

 she may attack simultaneously to an adjacent target and that near the voivode or she must choose one...

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Reply #3 | Published on 30 August 2011 - 13:07:12

aegean said:

 she may attack simultaneously to an adjacent target and that near the voivode or she must choose one...?

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Reply #4 | Published on 31 August 2011 - 02:30:30
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aegean said:

 she may attack simultaneously to an adjacent target and that near the voivode or she must choose one...

She must choose one, otherwise it would be too powerful in my opinion

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Reply #5 | Published on 31 August 2011 - 08:10:02

PsychoWolf is right, she may only target one character- either one adjacent to her or one adjacent to a Voivode. But she attacks not only her target but every character that's standing near the target (up to three circles away I think). She also attacks friendly characters standing in this area, only Voivodes and Zor'ka herself are immune to these attacks.

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Reply #6 | Published on 31 August 2011 - 12:07:41
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Yes, Zor'ka chooses the tatget, but all characters that can be targeted are shot simultaneously:

Zor'ka hits a character near her, but she always shoots the characters (friends o foes) within 3 circles of the target, near Voivodes, and near Smiljan Module too without choise.

I don't remember if characters within 3 circles of the target of Voivodes/Smilian Module are hit too using magnifier...

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Reply #7 | Published on 31 August 2011 - 16:17:39

Carlos Castaneda said:

I don't remember if characters within 3 circles of the target of Voivodes/Smilian Module are hit too using magnifier...

She should hit them, too, if strictly playing by the rules.

Reply #8 | Published on 01 September 2011 - 06:29:23
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Carlos Castaneda said:

Yes, Zor'ka chooses the tatget, but all characters that can be targeted are shot simultaneously:

Zor'ka hits a character near her, but she always shoots the characters (friends o foes) within 3 circles of the target, near Voivodes, and near Smiljan Module too without choise.

I don't remember if characters within 3 circles of the target of Voivodes/Smilian Module are hit too using magnifier...

Strictly by the rules (Revised, p.57) it should work like this:

1) Zor'ka targets and attacks one character that is adjacent to her, any Voivodes or a Similjan Coil (or on a coil).

2) After the first attack is complete, if there are any other characters (friend or enemy) within three circles of the targeted character, a Magnifier attack must be rolled for each of these characters. Line of Sight is not needed for these extra attacks. As ??! wrote, Zor'ka herself and Voivodes are immune

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Reply #9 | Published on 01 September 2011 - 10:23:59

Eiko is right, only the target that Zor'ka chose and characters within 3 circles of the target are attacked. The magnifier rules just state that circles adjacent to or containing a Smiljan Coil or Module are considered to be adjacent to Zor'ka and therefor may be attacked, the rules don't say that all characters on all those circles are automatically attacked.

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Reply #10 | Published on 02 September 2011 - 11:11:57
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Yes, it's right, sorry: I hadn't rule book in the vicinity.

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Reply #11 | Published on 20 September 2011 - 23:57:39

Eiko said:

Carlos Castaneda said:

 

Yes, Zor'ka chooses the tatget, but all characters that can be targeted are shot simultaneously:

Zor'ka hits a character near her, but she always shoots the characters (friends o foes) within 3 circles of the target, near Voivodes, and near Smiljan Module too without choise.

I don't remember if characters within 3 circles of the target of Voivodes/Smilian Module are hit too using magnifier...

 

 

Strictly by the rules (Revised, p.57) it should work like this:

1) Zor'ka targets and attacks one character that is adjacent to her, any Voivodes or a Similjan Coil (or on a coil).

2) After the first attack is complete, if there are any other characters (friend or enemy) within three circles of the targeted character, a Magnifier attack must be rolled for each of these characters. Line of Sight is not needed for these extra attacks. As ??! wrote, Zor'ka herself and Voivodes are immune

 

I don't see in the rules where Zor'ka is immune to the magnifier.

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Reply #12 | Published on 21 September 2011 - 00:08:00

I'm fairly certian that there is an official ruling from FFG stating she and her Voivodes are immune.

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Reply #13 | Published on 21 September 2011 - 07:44:01

I asked FFG and they stated that Zor'ka and the Voivodes are immune to the magnifier. I posted the questinons regarding Zor'ka and the answers in the topic "Issue with Zor'ka".

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Reply #14 | Published on 15 December 2012 - 12:55:52

Zor'ka can also attack an empty circle adjacent to her, enemy within or not, just to "trigger" the effect of the Magnifier on 3 circles around here and hit multiple targets with only one attack for example, is that right ?

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Reply #15 | Published on 15 December 2012 - 13:25:24

Can she actually do that? The rules concerning the Magnifier always talk about targeting characters, they never mention that this weapon actually targets circles. Weapons that targets circles instead of characters (e.g. Irishka's or Ramirez' weapons) have rules that specifically state this ability.

Dear FFG, please don't stop the Tannhäuser line completely! Maybe just step down the release of new product to two (maybe one) characters per year just to keep players interested. Maybe release mercenary characters that would be useful for every faction thus every player. Maybe release a pack containing all the existing bonus tokens but no miniature. Anything, please!

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