I was wondering if someone has tried to figure out what an approximate USD to Thrones exchange rate would be?

I'm leaning on around 20-25 USD/ Throne…

Anyone else have any thoughts?

One GM of mine said 10 USD to one throne, based on guns and food and such

Based on the costs for guns and ammo, it's at least $5 USD to one Throne.  Ten dollars to the Throne might be a bit steep, though.

Cheers,

- V.

 I honestly don't even want to think about that… I know I'll start figuring up prices and it will make me sad when I see how messed up some of them are… 

 Well, some things may be cheaper 40.000 years into the future than today, with war all over. (Guns & ammo probably)

And something may be more expensive… (Like Shampoo)

When I have to 'guestimate' prices for new stuff, I mostly use $10 = 1 Throne as the starting point. Prices from the Rulebook are all over the place, though. A standard-quality chrono (i.e. a wristwatch) seems absurdly expensive compard to other standard goods. And food prices are insane- what is it, 4 Thrones for a cup (!) of recaff (coffee)? How could an average Imperial citizen survive if they had to pay these prices? I had to invent a Half-Throne denomination just so my players could buy cheap drinks for people they are trying to get information from. If FFG ever comes out with a 1.5 or 2nd Ed of DH, I hope that they tweak the prices a bit…

Adeptus-B said:

Has there been any serious talk about this? It would make a lot of sense. 

Jeff Tibbetts said:

A lot of posters have asked for it, but there has been no word from FFG.

 I imagine a 2nd edition of Dark Heresy would play like Black Crusade.

At 10$/Throne, a level 8 adept woould have a measly 1800$ a month to spend, if I'm reading the income rules in DH correctly.

And a level 8 noble (whatever that is), woiuld have 9000$ a month - not much at all.

A backpack is 10 thrones (or 100$).

A chrono is 40 thrones (or 400$).

However, both backpacks and chronos can cost a lot more (although the prices are for common quality versions).

Maybe the main problem is the low income, however even a plama pistol at 4000 thrones (ie 40.000$) isn't more expensive than a car today at that exchange rate…

At 25$/Throne the lvl 8 adept would be at 4500 $/month - a more resonable value.

Backpack at 250$ (plausible, but a bit expensive)

Chrono at 1000$ (plausible, for a nice one).

Plasma pistol a 100.000$.

Still nobles should earn more in my opinion.

At 10$/Throne, a level 8 adept woould have a measly 1800$ a month to spend, if I'm reading the income rules in DH correctly.

This is over $10 an hour for a 40 hour work week. Not an uncommon wage.

And a level 8 noble (whatever that is), woiuld have 9000$ a month - not much at all.

$9,000 a month is $108,000 a year. Obviously, a hundred thousand a year is barely a survivable wage. 

A backpack is 10 thrones (or 100$).

$100 is what you will pay for a rugged backpack that will last for years.

A chrono is 40 thrones (or 400$).

$400 is about what a nice watch costs. Better quality ones cost much more.

But would a "noble" equivalent today be happy with 108.000$/year? Assuming we live in the civilized part of the world now - you are ok off with such an income.

But you are not filthy rich by any strech of the imagination. In my opinion you probably need to earn more than 10.000.000$ / year in order to be "filthy rich". (Which I think nobles should be).

mosern said:

mosern said:

Both of you are not reading the income rules correctly. The income presented on page 124 is not the typical income of one working in that career.

"All Acolytes gain a monthly income while in the employ of an Inquisitor. This represents money they generate in their spare time doing other (sometimes shady) jobs, investments or trusts they might have or even a stipend from their illustrious employer. In game terms, however, a character always receives their income without having to specifically do anything."

Basically, that isn't what they get paid when they are actually doing their salaried jobs. It is what they get paid when they aren't really doing anything in particular. An acolyte is, officially, unemployed. The Inquisition covers their basic needs but apart from that gives them little, if anything, in wages.

The Adept, under normal conditions, would have a real job in an office of some sort. A Noble also, though their jobs are much more high-paid due to their station. The Noble's 500+50*(R-1) Throne Gelt represents what a Noble might earn when not actually doing anything at all - which makes the number seem considerably more impressive.

Exactly, but as the Inquisition provides Room & Board and sometimes some basic gear, it becomes more "spending money"

Cymbel said:

Fair enough, then we can look away from the income rules in order to find an exchange rate - as we then can assume that full-time employees does earn a lot more than what the Inquisition pays out as pocket-money.

But at 10$/Throne a super-rare plasma pistol is only 40.000$. About the same as a car. And everyone has a car, some have more than one. It is an expensive item, but it isn't as expensive as prohibiting normal people from owning one (or more). And rich people could have as many as they wanted.

 I always assumed that the imperium being a feudalish kind of society meant that many people would be getting some sort of bed and board as part of their masters obligations.Meaning that the common citizen/serf/peasant wouldn't be getting their hands on many if any thrones.Hence the expense of accommodation and extra food.Just my tuppence on the subject :)