Dude. This has got to be a Marine weapon.

Solardream said:

hmm yes and no - again as you mention it depends on the "level" of the game you are running - if you are dealing with a couple of dodgy cultists at the bottom of a hive then yeah the Space marine is massive overkill - I guess I have just run larger scale games usually with one player as aInterogator or Inquisitor.

Sending a team of Marines to a backwater world for a specific task/ elimiation/recon is very different to turning them into "common labourers" - I not sure where you go that from?  On that subject the Salamanders do interact with their homeworld and have forges etc - so are craftsmen - presume thats beneath them?  Ultramarines and others I guess run whole areas of space not just their homeworld. 

The Inquisiton uses whatever and whoever it can to get the job done - at leasts thats how I see it, so you can have pretty much anyone - Space Marines, Xenos, mutants, whatever..............many of whom are as single mineded, dedicated, difficult to disguise or whatever as Marines.

I guess we see different things in the game - to me its just more background, fluff and mechanisms to let me play in the 40k Universe - I am certainly not restricted to having all players as very very minor people - although that can be fun. 

By the by, this thread represents an excellent demonstration of how to roleplay Marines -

Everyone chooses a different Warrior Ideal for their Marine - Viking Beserker, US Marine (Ooh-Rah), Greek Hero, Knight in Shining Armour, Anime Sword-Saint, whatever, and proceeds to attempt to live up to it and convince everyone else that their way of doing things is best.

Hilarity (and epic carnage) Ensues.

sounds about right :)

strict code of condut a raison to banish SM?  certainly not or you need to put out allmost all class

cleric need to follow the imperial creed and pray the god emperor whit fervor they consider heretic xenos and mutant whit more hate that everyone else

assassins have there how code one elite advancecement say failling a mission grant you a death mark by yoour peer and your a KOS vs your assassins order

gardmans have to follow theimperial creed and commissar are there to be sure they obey order AND to the emperor religion

arbitrator beleived in emperial law like the cleric follow the god emperor so they code is very strong too (they beived in the imperial creed too) in the book they says some inquisitor dont take member of the arbitres in fear to be juge and kill by them (and is certainly a possibility if the guys go on  the radical way)

psyker have a good freedow but they have Survival Rules ( stay alert ....never loose control...stay strong) or they can put there life in danger ( 2 of my spyker player finish with an ammo in the head shot by others player after they have  a catastrofphic roll on psychic phenomena followed by a very bad roll on peril of the warp) ( this is the prive for power)

tech-priest workship the god machine like the cleric beleive in the god emperor.......and each machine a part of the god machine they certainly not act again there god and destroy machine ....they can betrayed there fellow acolyte in favor of a tech piece or a tech knowledge

the sororitas follow both a mmilitary code and the god emperor religion ( like palidin in D&D)

all of them have roleplaying restriction and a stric code player must follow ( lot of the talents list in the class are fonction of those code of conduits so if you dont lay it you can be penalise by loosing the apropriate talent) ----- my point of view here------

vs the other class SM code is not very different and not more restrictive in  term of code of conduit ( whit some differennce in fonction of the chapter.....grey knight code IS REALY RESTRICTIVE but they are special even for the astartes )

adept and scum have the most freedoms in term of code

In final what is realy matters is you the gm ( and your players  ) can you play or not with a SM player. all of the class can be roleplayed every class have is restriction in term of attitute and possibility and all of them can be fun ( all conditions is fonction of the group )

i played in 2 groups one where i have lot of fun ( whit lot of roleplay ...sometime we stand up to play the scene....) (always remember the chain sword duel of the friend using empty 2l pepsi bottle as weapons ) and one where player dont form a very cooperative group ( every ones debate constanly and where i have lot less fun) i realy dont see a SM in the second group but in the 1st? well presently we dont have one but i m pretty sure we can manage it in the group

You're seriously posting a picture as your only reply?  Seriously?

Darn these word things as a means of making ones point... 

Kage

1000 words of total awsome right there buddy.

It is threads like this where it really hurts my feelings there is no Private Messaging on these forums.  There are a couple people in this thread who I would so dearly like to send my respects and sympathies to...

Is everyone aware of the various attempts to produce true-scale (As Big As What They Should Be) Space Marines?

God In Heaven what I would give to be able to buy boxes of those guys in plastic!

very cool minis :)

Dezmond said:

While we're at it, could we get Orks to scale, too?

cappadocius said:

Only when they sell as well as marines.

Dezmond said:

This is GW logic! MAYBE they'd sell as well as Marines if they got cool sculpts!  Forgeworld does their Orks to scale, and if the weak dollar weren't killing the thought of me buying anything from Europe or the UK, I'd totally use their stuff.

If the Awesome Marines do really, really well, Maybe there will be enough money to look at orks.

If not, we lay off half the staff and do some more Marines.