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The Army of the Union vs. the Reich's Obscura Korps in the Great War, circa 1949!
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Miah999 said:
Your welcome, sorry it wasn't there the first time, but it can be hard to keep all the links for the blog up-to-date and accurate.
No problem! I bookmarked it, too, so I should be able to find it again with ease.
Tom O' Bedlam said:
I appreciate the heads up about Asteros and Natalya. Are there any other characters that have that much affect on the game? What about Zor'ka or Hoss?
Asteros and Natalya are epic characters, Not only their stats ar better but their equipment is as well. Asteros on average has 4 (rolls 5 dice) sucesses on all his shock rolls and 5 (rolls 6 dice) successes in his attack rolls in my oppinion they are too good. You can find dedicated threads for them where this is discussed further.
Zorka is really good, with her stamina pack she rolls 5 rolls as well, and if playing also Irina with stamina pack its 5 dice with success on 2+ The games do evolve around her but thats the intended way for the matriarchy specially with voivodes. The difference is that her euipment is not as good as the epics, she rolls 4 dice when attacking for example, not 6 like natalya or asteros.
Hoss is really powerful, and his equipment is almost on par with the epics, in my experience he has won games himself, he can switch places in the board with any other figure, he cannot be attacked in melee (he just moves 1 circle and gets out of range) and has out of path attacks. He is almost an epic. The difference (despite being superior to almost any other hero) is that if wounded his mental stat drops dramatically and most of his usefulness depends on that (he is also discussed further on other threads).
To sum up there are heroes more powerful than others but not as unbalancing as the epics (specially when a side has an epic and the other does not), some may discuss hoss is that powerful and I have read of groups houseruling hoss as an epic.
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Moebius said:
Tom O' Bedlam said:
I appreciate the heads up about Asteros and Natalya. Are there any other characters that have that much affect on the game? What about Zor'ka or Hoss?
Asteros and Natalya are epic characters, Not only their stats ar better but their equipment is as well. Asteros on average has 4 (rolls 5 dice) sucesses on all his shock rolls and 5 (rolls 6 dice) successes in his attack rolls in my oppinion they are too good. You can find dedicated threads for them where this is discussed further.
Zorka is really good, with her stamina pack she rolls 5 rolls as well, and if playing also Irina with stamina pack its 5 dice with success on 2+ The games do evolve around her but thats the intended way for the matriarchy specially with voivodes. The difference is that her euipment is not as good as the epics, she rolls 4 dice when attacking for example, not 6 like natalya or asteros.
Hoss is really powerful, and his equipment is almost on par with the epics, in my experience he has won games himself, he can switch places in the board with any other figure, he cannot be attacked in melee (he just moves 1 circle and gets out of range) and has out of path attacks. He is almost an epic. The difference (despite being superior to almost any other hero) is that if wounded his mental stat drops dramatically and most of his usefulness depends on that (he is also discussed further on other threads).
To sum up there are heroes more powerful than others but not as unbalancing as the epics (specially when a side has an epic and the other does not), some may discuss hoss is that powerful and I have read of groups houseruling hoss as an epic.
Well, I have to say that some of that didn't make much sense to me as I haven't played the game yet, but I got the gist of it. I gotta ask, though, what exactly is Asteros' role in the game? And is he only used with the Daedalus scenarios?
From the sounds of it I probably won't be using him or Natalya too much, at least until they release more characters on that power level. I know Edison is coming out soon and he sounds pretty grim from the description given. Any thoughts on what rank (such as epic, legendary, etc.) he might be classified as or whether or not he'll be another character that the game tends to revolve around (aside from the special scenario mentioned in the article about him)?
Epics can be used in any map, they take 2 slots in your team (they count both as a hero and a trooper) and when you play with them you have 1 less command point (on average you get 2-3 cps per turn).
They get an extra row of stats (so an extra wound), you can see more details in miahs blog. He has reviewed both of them. I dont use them ofen, and when I do (in tannhauser online as I did not buy the figures) is using homerules to nerf them and bring them back to hero level.
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Moebius said:
Epics can be used in any map, they take 2 slots in your team (they count both as a hero and a trooper) and when you play with them you have 1 less command point (on average you get 2-3 cps per turn).
They get an extra row of stats (so an extra wound), you can see more details in miahs blog. He has reviewed both of them. I dont use them ofen, and when I do (in tannhauser online as I did not buy the figures) is using homerules to nerf them and bring them back to hero level.
I think that only Asteros costs 1 Command Point to your team (because is difficult to control). In the Natalya rulebook there is no info about the CP, so you play with all the CP if you play with Natalya.
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That's right. Natalya replaces a hero and a trooper but leaves you with 2 CP. By the way, I think she's somewhat more balanced than Asteros by her decreasing stats and different equipment pack, so at least I'd advice others to buy her but not Asteros.
Dear FFG, please don't stop the Tannhäuser line completely! Maybe just step down the release of new product to two (maybe one) characters per year just to keep players interested. Maybe release mercenary characters that would be useful for every faction thus every player. Maybe release a pack containing all the existing bonus tokens but no miniature. Anything, please!
T0rrES said:
I think that only Asteros costs 1 Command Point to your team (because is difficult to control). In the Natalya rulebook there is no info about the CP, so you play with all the CP if you play with Natalya.
Oops, I stand corrected then!
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I just started this game and got
Core Set
Novgorod
Equipment Cards
If the Core set includes the Revised Rules, that should do for quite some time, Pvthudson01! I'd advise you to play with the Core set factions and characters for some time before introducing the third faction and Novgorod to get used to the rules and mechanics (unless you regulary play 3 player games of course).
Dear FFG, please don't stop the Tannhäuser line completely! Maybe just step down the release of new product to two (maybe one) characters per year just to keep players interested. Maybe release mercenary characters that would be useful for every faction thus every player. Maybe release a pack containing all the existing bonus tokens but no miniature. Anything, please!
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