open your mind quaid…………

dont worry, with time, and experience, other options will present themselves.

B_P said:

B_P, ne déranger pas. Les querelles avec cette personne finissent seulement dans la folie.

 Glimpse is a problem, but i dont think having another card that wrecks the game is the right solution.

About Marcus - what supports are that good that playing them for 3 is that strong? Free card advantage is also nice (he and Midwife could use some shuffle 1 card from hand into deck) but he needs really scary supports to do much.

By stygnian you mean infernal obsession or do you want him to go insane?

Hellfury said:

hahaha. oh hellfury. you make me laugh. even when im trying to encourage new players you still have to stick your nose in.

.Zephyr. said:

About Marcus, well ice shaft, infernal obsession, cavern of flame, etc etc.

About stygian eye and marcus, if he isn't exhausted, you don't have to ready it. he doesn't go insane, you don'tl ose the his control and you opponent cannot play another copy of marcus.

By th way, who's the new player?

sorry. i just wrongly presumed you might be with the lack of previous options you were presenting, and it was also for new players who are reading this anyway, but yes, as you've now pointed out, there are a few ways of combatting him, and plenty more beyond those.

just NICELY, i will add that the opponent can play another copy of jamburg if you control him as they are now no longer considered to have a version of that unique on the board. if stygian were to be destroyed, then yes, the returned copy would go to discard, unless you yourself used his ability and then he'd return to the opponents hand.

as for glimpse, i know of at least 5 ways to shut down / win against this deck so far, some of which aren't even focusing on this deck in particular.

but then again……. this may just be my FOOLISHNESS talking.

When you have taken control of a card,
you are considered to be that card’s
controller, but not its owner.

The limit on unique cards still applies.
You cannot gain control of or play a
unique card if you already control or
own a copy of that card in play.

Last faq 2.2

Did I miss something?

i'll just back away slowly from this conversation. perhaps you should heed hellfury's advice, or i might lead you dont the rabbit hole. i'll leave it to the rules experts to decide.

I think B_P is right, and that's how I read it, as the FAQ does say "control or own".  Stygian Eye transfers control but not ownership.  Really handy for dealing with perpetual annoyances like Carl Stanford.

Also note that Canopic Jar likewise prevents additional copies of a unique player from being put into play, as the card is still in play and still owned by the original player, even if it is no longer under his control.  So you can put Mr. Jamburg into the Jar (have to destroy him first, of course) if you don't want to see him any more.

Runix said:

I have to say, I'd be pretty upset if I were playing and the opponent put a copy of me into play.

eirei said:

Meh, I love it when people play me against me. Good times. ;)

Argh!  Didn't get to my post quickly enough to edit it.  Oh well, enjoy the free laugh, I guess, you all know what I mean.

eirei said:

Meh.  I've played enough videogames from the 80's that having to fight against another version of yourself seems pretty normal to me.

Magnus Arcanis said:

Says the man who actually has a card named for him  I'd love to see me played in there as well! But alas, there were no programmers back then, only people who sought to automate looms. Maybe that's what I could be! An insane spinner…

COCLCG said:

What encouragement? That patronizing pat on the head to a vet was encouragement? Congratulations, COCLCG. You have single handedly made this consumer completely turned off from this game and this forum intolerable to read with your insults to everyone who might even slightly disagree with your lunatic rantings with your fly off the handle responses. All while you act like the victim and claim to change. You could at least be entertaining when you troll.Put another notch in your flame bait belt. Here is one more member who cannot stand to read your numerous pleas for validation. I have learned your alignment; and it is Chaotic Stupid. Ban me. The shit has been scraped off of my heels. Any locals in the Portland/Vancouver area want to give my cards a good home, let me know.