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aramis said:
ShiKage said:
The problem here is the desire of many players to be a Jedi or Jedi-like character and forgetting this is a system almost specifically designed to rule out such characters. Almost all Jedi have been hunted down and exterminated, even most force sensitives are killed or recruited into the Empire. As a character on the fringes of society you may have managed to go unnoticed but you suffer the disadvantage of having no one to teach you and thus your ability to advance is rather limited. Thus, the lack of a lightsaber skill and the ability to advance beyond Force Rating 2 is an intentional design feature of the system and not something that has been overlooked.
Lightsaber skill is present in the game - in the threat profiles. Likewise, the extended universe materials don't support your presumptions of most of them being recruited by the empire. In fact, the Emperor is still hunting down rogue jedi up to 4 ABY… when he ceases being emperor.
The fact that he is still hunting some does not mean that most are not killed or recruited. Certainly, that is the general outcome if one is discovered by the Empire. As for the lightsaber skil, I am going by the entries in the skill chapter and in the Lightsaber weapon description. The skill listing for player skills specifically does not present Lightsaber as a skill. Additionally, the description for the weapon indicates that they do not intend players to have access to this skill, stating a GM can add it but they don't suggest having it available.
My primary points however, are that you are not likely to find someone to train you in this current setting and that the game creators do not really intend for the players to currently be playing powerful force users. It's something some characters might have but they're not going to be jedi quality force users by the specific design of the system. I am hopeful that they will later release a book which will focus more on force powers and force users however, allowing this to be expanded.
aramis said:
ShiKage said:
The problem here is the desire of many players to be a Jedi or Jedi-like character and forgetting this is a system almost specifically designed to rule out such characters. Almost all Jedi have been hunted down and exterminated, even most force sensitives are killed or recruited into the Empire. As a character on the fringes of society you may have managed to go unnoticed but you suffer the disadvantage of having no one to teach you and thus your ability to advance is rather limited. Thus, the lack of a lightsaber skill and the ability to advance beyond Force Rating 2 is an intentional design feature of the system and not something that has been overlooked.
Lightsaber skill is present in the game - in the threat profiles. Likewise, the extended universe materials don't support your presumptions of most of them being recruited by the empire. In fact, the Emperor is still hunting down rogue jedi up to 4 ABY… when he ceases being emperor.
Both of you are partially correct. While a handful of Jedi still exist most have either been killed off or corrupted by Palpatine. Force Unleashed shows that there were, what, 5 or 6? Including Obi Wan and Yoda? The novels and comics show maybe 3 or 4 more than that… That’s less than 20 people in a galaxy of over 4 quadrillion beings!
Force Unleashed says a few Jedi were corrupted and turned into Royal Guards and Shadow Guards (which I’d love to see)! Others were turned into Emperor’s Hands like Mara Jade and Lumiya. Nevertheless, like 99% of the thousands of Jedi were wiped out simultaneously with Order 66.
Dark Times comics show that one or two Jedi Masters were able to hide some younglings to later join Luke’s New Jedi Order decades later (I’m not sure, but I think they all hid in Dooku’s hidden fortress in that Bounty Hunter game for PS2). That part is actually cannon because Fett tells Obi Wan that he was recruited by a man called Tyranus on one of the moons of Bogden (Ep. 2).
Either way, you’re both right.
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