Hi Guys,

I am really wanting to collect the hero figures for all factions from the original DUST Tactics Starter Set onwards.  

Please Fantasy Flight release them in a boxed set or as singles.  I have the rulebook and one or more of every model so far.  I have the Axis & Allies Heroes boxes but I want all the rest please  

Many Thanks and Happy Gaming,

Allan

 I think Paola Parent is releasing Sigrid and Joe on his site soon.

spoook said:

Only in Premium form, at $40.00 a pop for the two. And no sign of the others. I think your best bet is eBay or buy the campaign packs. 

spoook said:

Thanks for the heads up.

Disappointed as he will charge a premium price that will not be worth it for me.

This has been a recurring question since Dust Warfare came out. I think the reason that individual Hero minis aren't sold separately is because FFG doesn't want to cannibalise campaign box sales. It's that double-edged sword thing that happens because Tactics and Warfare are marketed as two sides of the same coin.

 I'm one for heroes being sold separately. FFG pls!

enrgie said:

FFG has NO direct control over this. It is all up to Dust Studios bro. FFG is just a distributor for the Dust minis. The ONLY thing they have direct control over is the Dust WARFARE rules. 

Hi Guys,

I emailed DUST Studios in the hope I can order the figures somehow.  I want the figures to paint up myself and do not want the premium edition ones.  Most of the hobby for me is painting.

I have invested a great deal of money so far but if I cannot get them I will happily move on from DUST Warfare.  Great game but If I cannot get the figures there are plenty of other games and miniatures out there.

I know Miniature Gaming is relatively new for FFG but I hope they can work something out.

Happy Gaming,

Allan

Primus Pilus said:

And this is what everyone needs to do if you wish to effect change and get them to market hero packs separately. There has to be feedback frm the DW community in enough numbers to make them repackage their product line to cater to us. 

Primus Pilus said:

I agree that a polite email is a great thing to send to the company.

The problem is the second part of the statement.

 "I spend X amount of money on your products" and "If I don't get my way I am going to stop buying your products" are both hollow threats that customers make. Statements like this are not usefull, constructive, or a legitimate threat. 

People are either ignorant of the time and cost involved in the manufacture, packaging and distribution of a product, or they understand but are so impatient as to just end up being jerks. If they are ignorant, they can be educated and hopefully will understand that things take time. If they are just being jerks, which is the case far too often, there is never any pleasing them.

I have no insight into Dust-Models/FFG's production or distribution chains. In my estimation, you would be looking at a year minimum to design new packaging, produce small hero packs, and get them on store shelves. Doing this in under a year would probably be possible, but highly unlikely since they have a production schedule already set and any changes would be difficult at best.

I just wish people would take a minute and realize that companies do not do things just to mess with people. The Dust Tactics campaign expansions were out well before Dust Warfare existed, it will take time for the figures in those boxes to become available outside of those boxes. It isn't guaranteed that they will ever be available outside the campaign boxes, but it is highly likely, in time. The game isn't even six months old yet, give them some time.

 Yeah, polite, non-threatening email is what I meant as well. And, it's actually quite within the realm of possibility they're already working on it. But like ItsUncertainWho said, it takes time. Heck, it could easily take a year just to get the packaging done the way they want. 

 I believe the the packaging and marketing is deliberate.  I purchased a dust tactics expansion for one character model. I can't believe I am the only one, so they leverage the warfare desire for heros into increased revenue.  This will hit a breakpoint when they will offer the heroes at a lower price because they have tapped out those willing to buy the tactic expansions.  They knew warfare was coming long enough to provide a campaign book, they certainly could have designed packaging for hero models.

So, there is no way to get the models like "The Chef" without ordering the expansions for Tactics?

Double Post - Sorry  

ItsUncertainWho said:

ItsUncertainWho said:

ItsUncertainWho said:

There is no threat here.  I have been gaming for over 25 years and seen companies come and go.  I am more awarre than most of production times and the effort and cost involved in producing a game and figures.

To say Fantasy Flight has no control on releases is niave at best.  With out Fantasy Flight Games ability to produce and distribute great products as well as it's reputation as a great company DUST Tactics would not have happened let alone DUST Warfare.  

All miniature gamers understand that releases take time and everything does not get released at once.  Gamers also understand that a hero or villan that is listed in the book(s) has been released but you cannot get them any longer or to get them you must buy an expansion set for the two figure included while the rest of the expansion has no value unless you are a DUST Tactics player.  Do you expect this will encourage gamers to start a new game system or even continue if there is no support? 

I have contacted DUST Studios and FFG with polite request for help with obtaining the heroe/villian figures.

I am sure they will respond politely as well.  Like them I am sure they want their business to continue to suceed.  Unlike most gamers I also understand this is new ground for FFG and DUST Studios.  I don't expect eerything to be perfect.  Buy asking the questions not just as a gamer but as a paying customer we let them know what is needed to fix an issue.

"The problem" as you put it is that people make assumptions about other peoples beliefs or experiences.   I would appreciate if you did not put words into my mouth that were never there to begin with.  If you are going to be rude you are only going to detract from the forums and the game and put off people from starting DUST Tactics/Warfare. 

 @ Primus - I didn't think ItsUncertainWho was attacking you specifically. This forum has demonstrated a knack for assuming FFG is solely responsible for release times and packaging choices. I think you just got rolled into that group perhaps unfairly. However, I also thought your stated correspondence to FFG sounded very much like a threatening, "You're not playing right so I'm taking my toys home" kids in sandbox type statement. I apologize for misunderstanding your intent, and am grateful you came back and clarified your position. 

As far as your latest, I think you're being overly generous when you state, "All" mini gamers know… Trust me, I'm in my 35th year of playing table-top miniature games, and I've run into more than a few clueless about the industry gamers. They are becoming more and more prevalent IMO. They expect miniatures to be as quick and easy to produce as CCGs. 

Also, I'm very confident Dust Tactics was going to happen with or without FFG. In fact, my original core set has a different company's logo on the box. There are a number of companies who could have done a fine job distributing DT. I agree though, DW deserves credit for doing a great job after taking over from AEG, and also is to be credited for DW. 

Finally, I didn't think ItsUncertainWho was putting words in your mouth. I thought he quoted you, but perhaps I am mistaken there as well.