On page 51, the Commisar suggested advancement chart refers to Iron Discipline as being available but possibly being granted by this specialty in character creation. On page 50 under starting talents, Iron Discipline is not available.

I think calculation of movement should be covered on stage 3.

on Page 70 (in addition to the missing chart 3-20) it says to Roll once on 3-21 to determine your comrade's demeanor, but there is no 3-21 either.

Perhaps it should be 3-19, the chart on the previous pages?

Table 3-14 talks about Characteristics having 0,1, or 2 matching Aptitudes to determine the cost of a Characteristic Advance

But table 3-15 (and supporting text) only indicates 1 Aptitude linked to each Characteristic meaning ALL Characteristic advances are are at 0 or 1 matching Aptitudes for a character.

How does a Character gain 2 matching Aptitudes for a Characteristic?

Are there other Aptitudes in addition to the original nine? If there are why are they no listed in table 3-15?

Argh!

Ok I get it now…

There are 19 Aptitudes.

One for each Characterisic (ie. Weapon Skill, Strength, etc) plus the nine others (Offense, Finesse, etc) plus the General Aptitude.

So looking at Table 3-15 the two matching Aptitudes for Intelligence are:(1) Intelligence and (2) Knowledge.

I may have overlooked it, but I cannot seem to find any thing explaining what is to be done with repeated Skills or Talents gained from multiple sources. For example, the Weapon Specialist on page 48 starts with Navigate (Surface), if this same character is created using the Tallarn Desert Raiders Regiment Rules on page 24 he has Navigate (Surface) from there as well. Does this mean he has Navigate (Surface) at +10?

If this is addressed in the Skills chapter that is good but it ought to be made clear in Character Creation (and perhaps even Regiment Creation as the options there can cause the same Skills or Talents to be gained). Also it ought to be written in a plain and easy to find way.

TCBC Freak said:

Santiago said:

For those who are looking for this in the books, reference the bottom of the second column of page 64 for the rule on duplicate Aptitudes, second column center page (roughly) on page 66 for Skills.  I did not see the rule about duplicate starting talents, though…  Could you give a reference point Santiago?  Thanks.

-=Brother Praetus=-

Santiago said:

Operators have none….

Brother Praetus said:

On page 41 in Table 3-1: Heavy Gunner Recommandet Advances it lists Iron Jaw even though this is a talent every Heavy Gunner gets.

 And that is indicated… just added for completion

Yes, but normally only Talents with an or Option are listed, if this would be the norm and not an oversight or error, specialities like the commissar would list also things like Air of Authority or the operator Technical Knock. Both things they get regulary with no or options like Iron Jaw. but they are not listed contrary to Iron Jaw.

On page 49 in the grey box Comrade Advances under the Talent Hail of Fire it reads “…If his
Comrade is in Cohesion, all of the Weapon Specialist’s attacks this turn gain the Pinning Quality.”
But there is no direct Pinning Quality in the weapon section and the only reference is Pinning on page 186. But do not mention the Pinning Qualität exactly. So maybe it is an oversight, I overlooked something or it is not mentioned clearly. I think I means just that every enemy the Weapon Specialist attack, must test against Pinning or not?

under ogryn:

talent should be Weapon Specialisation (Heavy, SP) not (Heavy, Ripper)