Wow, talk about running through hoops lol

Cool, thanks for the info!

jjcole said:

The Edit link only lasts for a while. If it disappears you need to use the work around I posted. 

Toqtamish said:

they why not just say list a bunch of random scifi films…

Just cause people express an opinions doesn't mean it is bickering…. this thread had the chance to move into another interesting topic about the true nature of this sub genre as well as being a list of fin films..

You note I added a film to the list as well as proposing a questions about the nature of this sub-genre. how on earth this could be considered bickering is beyond me.

booored said:

Because that's exactly what you were doing. Maybe quibbling would be a better word than bickering.

Avalon, maybe.

haven't heard of a few of these. definitely going to check them out.

 Interestingly enough, the Resident Evil series collectively portrays all three of the suggested themes, despite not taking place in a "technology-based, Earth-centric future" (albeit largely due to the near-extinction of all life on the planet).

      AKIRA!        

booored said:

Has it occured to you that maybe the OP isn't interested in his thread getting derailed into another topic (no matter how interesting it might seem to you)? I'd recommend starting a new thread if you'd like to discuss 'the true nature of the genre'.

 13th Floor clearly belongs into that list, as does World on a Wire. Dark City probably also.

Imho, the main reason why we're seeing few 'true' Cyperpunk movies these days is because the central event that Cyperpunk predicted has already happened: It's the arrival and ubiquitousness of the internet!

And In place of the Megacorps we have Banking Institutions owning countries.

H+ The Digital Series

www.youtube.com/watch

Bubblegum Crisis

Battle Angel Alita / Gunnm

You guys act like booored's just trying to ruin everyone's fun, but there actually is value in clarifying this stuff, so that, for example, I'll know whether it would be totally dumb of me to suggest that Harrison Bergeron and Idiocracy are "cyberpunk"

I mean, it would, right?  Even though they completely meet the stated criteria?  And then there are somewhat more ambiguous cases, like The Lathe of Heaven and Gattaca.

(Anyways, if I may further transgress against this thread by also suggesting short-lived TV shows, shouts out are in order to VR.5, Phantom 2040, the gloriously cheesy TekWar, and of course Max Headroom)

Love me some Max Headroom. Network 23 is certainly the template for NBN.

If you open the can of TV shows, one needs to mention Dark Angel.

By the way, for those so inclined, as far as I've read Ghost in the Shell is post-cyberpunk. The distinction being, if I remember correctly, that cyberpunk stories focus on people going against the society or the Megacorps, while post-cyberpunk focuses on people inside those organization, or anyway upholding the status quo, the society and its laws, like in the aforementioned GITS.

So does this mean that Netrunner is actually Cyberpunk or Post-Cyberpunk, depending on which side you're playing on in that particular game?

Vittek said:

I think I would still put Netrunner in the Cyberpunk category.  While there is a corporate player, only the runners are given individual identities and they provide the game's name.  I feel like the focus is on running, while being the corp is more like having fun portraying the backdrop.

Chrysalis is one I haven't seen any one mention yet. Maybe because it's French?

It's a futuristic noir sci-fi film, where a detective is trying to find out what happened to a girl that was murdered and the case he couldn't solve. But now she's here with no memories…