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Bullpup Lasgun Advantage?
Published on 06 January 2013 - 08:00:05
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Reply #16 | Published on 10 January 2013 - 07:15:56

Cifer said:

Just give it the Las Carbine special rules for using them one-handed. This makes them just a little less useful than a regular lasgun in a long-ranged fight (no third shot on semi-auto), but enhances close quarters abilities due to not needing to switch too much between the gun and the melee weapon once you have Ambidextrous.

It really needs it really, equipping a regiment with and inferior weapon for fluff reasons is all well and good in the guard thems the breaks. Except the only regiment that has it in the fluff is already in the rules without it.

As a an extended range Las-carbine i'm more than happy to fork out for in appriopriate regiments. For the Elysians it's easy enough to create an alternative drop regiement to the Hell Divers that has them.

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Reply #17 | Published on 12 January 2013 - 19:44:34

Suggested house rule: The Bullpup Lasgun can be used in close combat as if it were a pistol.

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Reply #18 | Published on 16 January 2013 - 10:14:10

Thaddux said:

Suggested house rule: The Bullpup Lasgun can be used in close combat as if it were a pistol.

Not sure that a good answer…

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Reply #19 | Published on 16 January 2013 - 16:08:29
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Really, the availability of some weapons are just high to a stupid extent.

 

Autoguns being at Average? Really/ Way to assume everyone will use a Lasgun, FFG.

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Reply #20 | Published on 16 January 2013 - 16:29:19

Frankie said:

Really, the availability of some weapons are just high to a stupid extent.

 

Autoguns being at Average? Really/ Way to assume everyone will use a Lasgun, FFG.



FFG created a game where you play an Imperial Guardsman. 99.99% of all Imperial Guardsman use some pattern of lasgun.
Autoguns are hardly used by the Imperial Guards since they cause a logistical nightmare of stellar proportions, ammo,

Lasgun charge packs are rechargeble, just imagen the amount of ammo that would have to be transported if they would all use autoguns.
But if you want you could always give your guardsman an autogun.

Autopistols however are used but in smaller numbers.

The PDF however is known to use autoguns.

On the Bullpup Lasgun, I would also give them the carbine ability or give them a penalty mitigating bonus when figthing in close quarters.


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Reply #21 | Published on 16 January 2013 - 16:41:45
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Santiago said:

 

FFG created a game where you play an Imperial Guardsman. 99.99% of all Imperial Guardsman use some pattern of lasgun.

Autoguns are hardly used by the Imperial Guards since they cause a logistical nightmare of stellar proportions, ammo,

Lasgun charge packs are rechargeble, just imagen the amount of ammo that would have to be transported if they would all use autoguns.
But if you want you could always give your guardsman an autogun.

Autopistols however are used but in smaller numbers.

The PDF however is known to use autoguns.

On the Bullpup Lasgun, I would also give them the carbine ability or give them a penalty mitigating bonus when figthing in close quarters.


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Please. I don't care what fluff says because an Autogun wouldn't be 'Average' to acquire if it's your standard weapon. That's one reason why it's an option to choose between SP and Las, because there are players who want to use SP weapons over las weapons for their regiments. Nor is the autogun so much better than the Lasgun that it needs to cost twice as much.  It's poor game design, simple as that.

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Reply #22 | Published on 17 January 2013 - 09:34:39

No. It isn't bad game design. You just don't understand why it is like that. You are part of Imperial Guard which uses Lasguns and it's easier for them to acquire such weapons then autoguns. Availability in Only War shows how easy/hard is to obtain weapon in IG not in whole galaxy.

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Reply #23 | Published on 17 January 2013 - 11:30:44
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And if they want to use autoguns, they should be penalized for fluff reasons, regardless of whether it's their MW?

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Reply #24 | Published on 18 January 2013 - 08:00:05

I really don't think that the carbine trait is applicable to a bullpup - they are just as heavy as a normal rifle with similar performance. While they are more manouverable in close quarters ( CQB, while prone etc) they aren't as useful in melee due to the shorter reach that an attached bayonet will have.

Perhaps have them be identical to a standard lasgun, but with a reduced reload time due to the ergonomic layout, slightly reduced weight and a Bullpup trait that means that a combat attachment functions as not a spear with less reach… although as i'm writing this i remember that spears dont even have a listed reach.

Yeah i think we should just wait for the Hammer of the Emperor supplement to come out and give us loads of new armour options. Also the Errata shouldn't be too long coming out now.

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