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Only War
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Only War: Hammer of the Emperor
Published on 08 December 2012 - 17:40:04
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Reply #31 | Published on 30 December 2012 - 10:27:32
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AtoMaki said:

HappyDaze said:

 

Speaking of that, did I miss rules in the main book for calling in regular tube or rocket artillery?

 

 

Check the Indirect weapon quality. It says that if an artillery weapon has spotters, then its crew may fire it with better accuracy. 

Do the spotters need any special Skills/Talents, or is it (incorrectly) assumed that anyone can spot and call in fire?

Reply #32 | Published on 30 December 2012 - 11:22:57

HappyDaze said:

Do the spotters need any special Skills/Talents, or is it (incorrectly) assumed that anyone can spot and call in fire?

 

The spotter needs Tech-Use to operate the Vox-Caster and probably Awareness/Scrutiny to give exact coordinates but the latter is only handwaved in the description. 

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Reply #33 | Published on 30 December 2012 - 19:44:48

AtoMaki said:

HappyDaze said:

 

Do the spotters need any special Skills/Talents, or is it (incorrectly) assumed that anyone can spot and call in fire?

 

 

 

The spotter needs Tech-Use to operate the Vox-Caster and probably Awareness/Scrutiny to give exact coordinates but the latter is only handwaved in the description. 

Taking a page out of DW. The spotter must succeed on a challenging tech use test to operate the Vox and then make a ballistic skill test (Modified by +10 [I think] if the spotter has a rangefinding device such as an auspex). If successful, The strike lands on target. If not it scatters as specified in the weapon description (Which for orbital strikes is alot!).

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Reply #34 | Published on 02 January 2013 - 09:13:58
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My first reaction was: holy crap my gaming group will totally become the feral space mongols that burns and loot their way through my campaigns…

The second one was; what the heck does the 1st and Only have to do with Calixian Sector?

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Reply #35 | Published on 07 January 2013 - 22:24:34

Luis Mittelsmann said:

The second one was; what the heck does the 1st and Only have to do with Calixian Sector?

The same thing that the Tallarns, Catachans, and a couple other regiments have to do with the Calixian sector, they're popular and the fans demand them.

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Reply #36 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 04:57:02

Psion said:

Luis Mittelsmann said:

The second one was; what the heck does the 1st and Only have to do with Calixian Sector?

 

The same thing that the Tallarns, Catachans, and a couple other regiments have to do with the Calixian sector, they're popular and the fans demand them.

 

Okay, but there are five bazillion regiments of Tallarns/Catachans/DKoK out there. One could end up in the Calixian sector. But there is only one Tanith regiment what is quite busy with this Sabbath crusade thing on the opposite side of the galaxy. Though, I must admit, in the Warhammer 40k universe this isn't a huge problem - Warp travel could have some funny side effects…

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Reply #37 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 06:56:14

AtoMaki said:

 

Okay, but there are five bazillion regiments of Tallarns/Catachans/DKoK out there. One could end up in the Calixian sector. But there is only one Tanith regiment what is quite busy with this Sabbath crusade thing on the opposite side of the galaxy. Though, I must admit, in the Warhammer 40k universe this isn't a huge problem - Warp travel could have some funny side effects…

 

 

Whenever faced between the rule of coolism and realism, coolism always applies in 40k.  That and maybe GW retconned the Sabbath crusade like they do everything else.

 

Edit: Only War could also be set in a different chunk of the timeline.

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Reply #38 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 07:57:37

DrNo172000 said:

Whenever faced between the rule of coolism and realism, coolism always applies in 40k.  That and maybe GW retconned the Sabbath crusade like they do everything else.

The Sabbath crusade is the product of Den Abnett and not GW's. So I don't think that they could retcon it that easily (and just because an RPG rulebook expansion). 

 

DrNo172000 said:

Edit: Only War could also be set in a different chunk of the timeline.

Won't work. The Tanith First and Only is in the Sabbath crusade from the beginning to the end. It is their big Destiny Warzone, so to say. The only way I can see their appearance is that they pull out an Al'rahem (Tallarn officer who was technically "cloned" by the warp).

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Reply #39 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 09:54:44

Luis Mittelsmann said:

The second one was; what the heck does the 1st and Only have to do with Calixian Sector?

Nothing, but we don't all play in the Calixis Sector. Just because it's the default setting for the game doesn't mean it's the only setting available.  

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Reply #40 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 12:06:15

Haha I was just joking about the retcon though GW once told me a model a they had for mail order at one time never existed, so seems they can even Retcon things out of real life existence.

 

I guess the rule of coolism applies to the the Tanith then.  Of course you could always run your game in the Sabbat Crusade as stated above.

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Reply #41 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 16:22:11

AtoMaki said:

The Sabbath crusade is the product of Den Abnett and not GW's.


It 100% is GW's. They own every shred of 40K IP. Dan Abnett wrote it for Black Library. Black Library is part of GW.

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Reply #42 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 16:41:09

H.B.M.C. said:

AtoMaki said:

The Sabbath crusade is the product of Den Abnett and not GW's.


It 100% is GW's. They own every shred of 40K IP. Dan Abnett wrote it for Black Library. Black Library is part of GW.

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Oh, I meant that he is a "real" author and not "just" a fluff/codex-writer, like, he still writes Gaunt's Ghost books, so if GW messes up the Tanith fluff, then they will mess up the whole Gaunt's Ghost line. And that's a big thing, not an oldcrons-newcrons case. And doing it just because FFG wants them in its expansion book is kinda' silly.

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Reply #43 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 16:54:44

AtoMaki said:

H.B.M.C. said:

 

AtoMaki said:

The Sabbath crusade is the product of Den Abnett and not GW's.


It 100% is GW's. They own every shred of 40K IP. Dan Abnett wrote it for Black Library. Black Library is part of GW.

BYE

 

 

 

Oh, I meant that he is a "real" author and not "just" a fluff/codex-writer, like, he still writes Gaunt's Ghost books, so if GW messes up the Tanith fluff, then they will mess up the whole Gaunt's Ghost line. And that's a big thing, not an oldcrons-newcrons case. And doing it just because FFG wants them in its expansion book is kinda' silly.

This is kinda ironic really, given how much Abnett retcons and contradicts the rest of the 40k fluff just for his books.

Ultimately, GW can do, or authorise anyone to do, whatever they want with any part of the fluff, and that includes the Tanith.

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Reply #44 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 17:03:30

AtoMaki said:

H.B.M.C. said:

 

AtoMaki said:

The Sabbath crusade is the product of Den Abnett and not GW's.


It 100% is GW's. They own every shred of 40K IP. Dan Abnett wrote it for Black Library. Black Library is part of GW.

BYE

 

 

 

Oh, I meant that he is a "real" author and not "just" a fluff/codex-writer, like, he still writes Gaunt's Ghost books, so if GW messes up the Tanith fluff, then they will mess up the whole Gaunt's Ghost line. And that's a big thing, not an oldcrons-newcrons case. And doing it just because FFG wants them in its expansion book is kinda' silly.

I always find this an odd view, given the amount of modern 40K canon Abnett has created. All you have to do is look at the Armory chapter to see his influence. Words like vox, augmetics, lho sticks, obsurca… all Abnett. I know a lot people don't like Abnett because his take on the 40K universe don't jib with the old Rogue Trader and 2nd edition days, but the simple, obvious truth is that due to his popularity as an author, Abnett is the new canon.

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Reply #45 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 19:53:30

LuciusT said:

I always find this an odd view, given the amount of modern 40K canon Abnett has created. All you have to do is look at the Armory chapter to see his influence. Words like vox, augmetics, lho sticks, obsurca… all Abnett. I know a lot people don't like Abnett because his take on the 40K universe don't jib with the old Rogue Trader and 2nd edition days, but the simple, obvious truth is that due to his popularity as an author, Abnett is the new canon.

Not entirely - he was the one who used to, and still does, sometimes, seem to think that a couple of dozen people can crew a frigate (from Ravenor), and many other things that are flat out incorrect in every other source of 40k info.

He has influence, but he's by no means the largest contributor to the fluff.

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