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Forbidden Lore
Published on 18 July 2012 - 00:46:55
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One of My players is starting a Cult of Slaanesh, they want to "Do it Right" as to please The Prince of Excess.

They are going to take the Skill Forbidden lore (Slaanesh Worship) and (Chaos Worship).

Normally Forbidden lore is a Tzzench Aligned advance, but they raised the Question about it being for Slaanesh.

My Khorne Player also was thinking About the Advance; why Would the Worship of Khorne Count as a Tzzench Advance.

Should God Specific Advances Count towards Tzzench or The god in Question?

 

WE IZ DA BORK. LOWA YER SHIELDS SO WEZ CAN KRUMP YA.
YER SCRAP IS GONNA GET LOOTED AND YER BIOLOGICAL BITS ER GONNA GET FED TO DA SQUIGS TA SERF DA KULLEKTIF.
RESISTANCE IS FUN. SO DON'T YA DARE SNEAK YER WAY OUT!

Steam name cjalw1

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Reply #1 | Published on 18 July 2012 - 05:10:12

Khorne isn't exactly known as the one for knowledge, that's Tzeench's domain, which is why he's got forbidden knowlede skills.

The god/skill system was created to be fairy simple so writers didn't differ between 14 base forbidden knowledges (and many others you can invent), but if you feel that it this one time it should be other god's skill, you are free to make it so (in your case I'm convinced that it's ok).

Same could be done with some other skills/talents (like god specific psychic powers gaining you point towards that god)

Also skills and talents were put into gods quite equally, so a few could be there to even the numbers (and still Tzeench's got the most).

The bird of hermes is my name, Eating my wings to make me tame.

Reply #2 | Published on 18 July 2012 - 06:51:51
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ShadowRay said:

Khorne isn't exactly known as the one for knowledge, that's Tzeench's domain, which is why he's got forbidden knowlede skills.

The god/skill system was created to be fairy simple so writers didn't differ between 14 base forbidden knowledges (and many others you can invent), but if you feel that it this one time it should be other god's skill, you are free to make it so (in your case I'm convinced that it's ok).

Same could be done with some other skills/talents (like god specific psychic powers gaining you point towards that god)

Also skills and talents were put into gods quite equally, so a few could be there to even the numbers (and still Tzeench's got the most).



God Specific psychic powers DO count towards advances for that god.
Otherwise, I agree with this. Altering the skill to fit makes sense to me. That said, I think Forbidden Lore (Slaanesh) would cover it. There's no need to require two separate skills for what is, truth be told, largely a fluff purchase.

With Signature

Reply #3 | Published on 18 July 2012 - 13:30:41

The Skills you're looking for are Forbidden Lore (Daemonology) for knowledge of the nature of Slaanesh and Scholastic Lore (Occult) for proper rites. There's no reason to invent new specialties.

Also, it doesn't matter what you're studying, your thirst for forbidden lore is pleasing to Tzeentch. The Alignment system doesn't care which god you worship, it only tracks which god's ideals you resemble the most, and thus which god takes interest in you.

Iron within, Iron without!

"it wouldn't be 40k if no skulls were involved"

-Cifer

Reply #4 | Published on 18 July 2012 - 17:32:30
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Ah thanks Morangias, that makes a lot of sense.

my Khorne player will have to deal with the Opposed cost of the Advance, but Que sera sera he will deal with it if he wants his Cult.

WE IZ DA BORK. LOWA YER SHIELDS SO WEZ CAN KRUMP YA.
YER SCRAP IS GONNA GET LOOTED AND YER BIOLOGICAL BITS ER GONNA GET FED TO DA SQUIGS TA SERF DA KULLEKTIF.
RESISTANCE IS FUN. SO DON'T YA DARE SNEAK YER WAY OUT!

Steam name cjalw1

Reply #5 | Published on 19 July 2012 - 02:03:54

Can't he ask a differently aligned fellow heretic to explain the proper rites to him? Khorne worship ain't rocket science after all.

Iron within, Iron without!

"it wouldn't be 40k if no skulls were involved"

-Cifer

Reply #6 | Published on 21 July 2012 - 11:03:26
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I can imagine it now:

"uh, hey dirty psyker, what's the proper way to do a ritual to Khorne?"

(After the laughing) "Does 'Blood for the Blood God' ring any bells? Duh! now ask a hard one." 

Then they remember why they hate each other again.

Without Signature

Reply #7 | Published on 16 August 2012 - 06:37:05
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Basically there's several ways to run this:

I don't intrinsically think there's anything wrong with "Forbidden Lore (Specific God)" or with that counting as an advance towards Alignment with that God.

Alternatively, you could define the rites and rituals involved with the worship of a particular god as an unaligned Common Lore or Scholastic Lore skill (you're not in the Imperium, after all, and there will be things that every Slaanesh worshiper knows about Slaanesh). Similarly you could fold Rites to the Gods into skills aligned with or appropriate to those gods (like Common Lore: War for Khorne).

Finally, you could simply rule that knowing how to worship the God you worship shouldn't require a skill at all.

Without Signature
Reply #8 | Published on 16 August 2012 - 20:10:11
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I must now roll a Khornite Voidship Engineer.

"Place us in orbit"

"OF COURSE, LORD CAPTAIN. HELMSMAN: CALCULATE THE LITURGIES OF FORCE!"

"f(1/u)=ar FOR THE BLOOD GOD! GMu SQUARED FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!"

Without Signature
Reply #9 | Published on 17 August 2012 - 00:46:55
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Kiton said:

I must now roll a Khornite Voidship Engineer.

"Place us in orbit"

"OF COURSE, LORD CAPTAIN. HELMSMAN: CALCULATE THE LITURGIES OF FORCE!"

"f(1/u)=ar FOR THE BLOOD GOD! GMu SQUARED FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!"

LET THE ENGINES BUUUUURN!

Adeptus mechanicus contains lunatics with high restrictions, fanatics who follow the machine god… I am the same, except no restrictions.

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