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Okay my gaming group has just finished the intro mission "First Blood". The only ruling problem we argued about was reviving a downed hero as an action. The OL was convinced even if the hero was revived by another hero, the hero being revived had to wait till the hero's next round to act. We argued that the player who was revied by another hero would get to act on the turn he was revived. So which one is it ?
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I concurr.
p. 10 only has the mention "he can only perform a stand up action" under the Stand Up paragraph. Nothing is said under the Revive a Hero paragraph.
That is the great advantage of Revive over Stand Up.
Of course, if the KO hero is isolated, it only will be able to Stand Up.
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Only reason he might not get a turn, and that would just be down to some Darwin-award winning player decisions, is if the downed hero took his turn first, decided he didn't want to stand up (since Stand Up is not mandatory), but having done his turn, flips over his card (step 4 of the hero turn), his turn would've been over and done by the time the next hero Revives him. Theoretical, but doubt you'll see it in reality.
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pbenner said:
It could be argued that most of the time, reviving an ally will also cost two actions (one to move over to the fallen ally, another to revive him) except in cases where the fallen ally is close enough that the reviver need not move, or is able to move with fatigue instead. So really, the question is "which hero do we want to see miss a turn?"
That said, I do agree that the hero being stood up via Revive is free to act in the same turn.
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Steve-O said:
“It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.”
J. R. R. Tolkien
Dam said:
Only reason he might not get a turn, and that would just be down to some Darwin-award winning player decisions, is if the downed hero took his turn first, decided he didn't want to stand up (since Stand Up is not mandatory), but having done his turn, flips over his card (step 4 of the hero turn), his turn would've been over and done by the time the next hero Revives him. Theoretical, but doubt you'll see it in reality.
I saw this in the FAQs section and it made me scratch my head. All I could think was that the Knocked Out Hero just wanted to lay low until the Ruling Ring was destroyed in Mount Doom or something. Maybe the Eagles to rescue the dwarves from the burning trees on the edge of the cliff.
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mt77061 said:
If the choice is between missing a turn (not standing up) or missing a turn & giving the overlord a card (because you're just going to get knocked out again), the former seems preferable. In some circumstances it may be worthwhile because the OL is forced to use actions to knock you down again, but if your token is next to monster(s) blocking a hall and/or with nothing better to do anyway …
Yes, I've definately seen a hero that is knocked out skip their turn because they would've used Stand Up and ended up in the middle of a monster pack, ready for another KO with barely an effort from the OL.
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well, as Overlord, I give the now-revived player his turn to act. otherwise the reviving character would lose an action without any benefit. However what happens if you revive someone or if you stand up and roll double blanks?
you cant, when you stand up you roll one red die an when you're reviving someone they roll two red dice. The mininum is one heart per red dice. Its impossable to roll a miss
it specifically states in the rule book on page 15 "Unless reveived by another hero, a knocked out hero may only perform one action on his next turn, and that action must be to stand back up (see "Stand Up" on page 10).
I believe there is also a question asked about that in the Adam Sez Forum on BGG. The emphasis is mine in the above statement, but it (while I know it doesn't outright say it) implies that the hero would have his two actions after being revived by another hero, or if the knocked out hero is the target of a healing spell. When the hero is healed by the spell, they automatically stand up and regain however many hitpoints the spell allows.
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