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The status of the conversion kit was updated today to shipping now (as in shipping to stores and distributors), so hopefully it won't be too much longer.
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The way this supplement is releasing seems very odd to me. There was a great deal of fanfare from FFG and from online stores about the 2nd Edition base game. It's release date was made public weeks ago and I was able to order it last Monday from Coolstuffinc - two days before FFG "officially" announced it was available in stores.
The release of the Conversion Kit seems almost shrouded in mystery by comparison. Coolstuff and several other online stores don't have it for pre-order (listing it as out of stock) and don't even have a box cover pictured on the sales page. Other than a short preview months ago, FFG hasn't had much to say about the Kit at all.
What gives?
You are here on a matter of honor. I am here to see that you settle it honorably. There will be no back-stabbing, you will not throw your blades, nor will you use weapons other than those agreed. If quarter should be asked...
Does this mean we know how many sleeves to buy now?
Marximus said:
The way this supplement is releasing seems very odd to me. There was a great deal of fanfare from FFG and from online stores about the 2nd Edition base game. It's release date was made public weeks ago and I was able to order it last Monday from Coolstuffinc - two days before FFG "officially" announced it was available in stores.
The release of the Conversion Kit seems almost shrouded in mystery by comparison. Coolstuff and several other online stores don't have it for pre-order (listing it as out of stock) and don't even have a box cover pictured on the sales page. Other than a short preview months ago, FFG hasn't had much to say about the Kit at all.
What gives?
I'm not exactly sure how much you're looking for here. Would a release date have been nice? Yeah, but the big deal was the main game. The conversion kit simply gives access to the old heroes and monsters. For the most part, only those who are buying the game are going to consider the conversion kit. In regards to the marketing, they were previewing numerous heroes on their facebook site. You can find all the previewed information on the kit on BGG.
In regards to it not being available for pre-order, I can tell you from experience that Coolstuffinc has had it for pre-order for months now and I just double checked and it is still listed as available for pre-order.
In regards to the sleeves, that should be fairly simple to figure out. I don't see any reason FFG would use different size cards from what is in the main game. So basically, you'll simply need 2 sleeves (ACT I and ACT II) of the appropriate size (don't remember off the top of my head) per monster type that was in the first edition (again, don't remember off the top of my head). Unless you are buying sleeves for the hero cards (oversized) that should do it.
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Unclechawie said:
In regards to the sleeves, that should be fairly simple to figure out. I don't see any reason FFG would use different size cards from what is in the main game. So basically, you'll simply need 2 sleeves (ACT I and ACT II) of the appropriate size (don't remember off the top of my head) per monster type that was in the first edition (again, don't remember off the top of my head). Unless you are buying sleeves for the hero cards (oversized) that should do it.
How many is that? And are there any smaller card sleeves needed?
Sausageman said:
Unclechawie said:
In regards to the sleeves, that should be fairly simple to figure out. I don't see any reason FFG would use different size cards from what is in the main game. So basically, you'll simply need 2 sleeves (ACT I and ACT II) of the appropriate size (don't remember off the top of my head) per monster type that was in the first edition (again, don't remember off the top of my head). Unless you are buying sleeves for the hero cards (oversized) that should do it.
How many is that? And are there any smaller card sleeves needed?
Since I don't have the 1st Edition game I had to rely on the information contained on the www.descentintothedark.com website. It shows 25 first edition monsters. Thus 50 sleeves. The monster cards from the 2nd Edition are "Bridge-sized" per the 2nd Edition rulebook. So overall, you'll need:
152 Small Sleeves (Base Game) -FFG Yellow - 1 5/8" X 2 1/2" - 41mm x 63mm
132 Bridge-sized Sleeves - FFG Green - 2 1/4" X 3 1/2" - 56mm X 87mm
Base Game - 82 cards
Conversion Kit - 50 cards
Hope this helps.
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Bear in mind that the monster cards have their stats on one side and traits, group sizes and any special abilities on the other - so you will need clear sleeves for those.
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Unclechawie said:
Sausageman said:
Unclechawie said:
In regards to the sleeves, that should be fairly simple to figure out. I don't see any reason FFG would use different size cards from what is in the main game. So basically, you'll simply need 2 sleeves (ACT I and ACT II) of the appropriate size (don't remember off the top of my head) per monster type that was in the first edition (again, don't remember off the top of my head). Unless you are buying sleeves for the hero cards (oversized) that should do it.
How many is that? And are there any smaller card sleeves needed?
Since I don't have the 1st Edition game I had to rely on the information contained on the www.descentintothedark.com website. It shows 25 first edition monsters. Thus 50 sleeves. The monster cards from the 2nd Edition are "Bridge-sized" per the 2nd Edition rulebook. So overall, you'll need:
152 Small Sleeves (Base Game) -FFG Yellow - 1 5/8" X 2 1/2" - 41mm x 63mm
132 Bridge-sized Sleeves - FFG Green - 2 1/4" X 3 1/2" - 56mm X 87mm
Base Game - 82 cards
Conversion Kit - 50 cards
Hope this helps.
Typo: Should be 134 Bridge Sized Sleeves.
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Unclechawie said:
Unclechawie said:
Sausageman said:
Unclechawie said:
In regards to the sleeves, that should be fairly simple to figure out. I don't see any reason FFG would use different size cards from what is in the main game. So basically, you'll simply need 2 sleeves (ACT I and ACT II) of the appropriate size (don't remember off the top of my head) per monster type that was in the first edition (again, don't remember off the top of my head). Unless you are buying sleeves for the hero cards (oversized) that should do it.
How many is that? And are there any smaller card sleeves needed?
Since I don't have the 1st Edition game I had to rely on the information contained on the www.descentintothedark.com website. It shows 25 first edition monsters. Thus 50 sleeves. The monster cards from the 2nd Edition are "Bridge-sized" per the 2nd Edition rulebook. So overall, you'll need:
152 Small Sleeves (Base Game) -FFG Yellow - 1 5/8" X 2 1/2" - 41mm x 63mm
132 Bridge-sized Sleeves - FFG Green - 2 1/4" X 3 1/2" - 56mm X 87mm
Base Game - 82 cards
Conversion Kit - 50 cards
Hope this helps.
Typo: Should be 134 Bridge Sized Sleeves.
Thanks very much for the information and time. Slightly moot in that I can't actually get any bloody sleeves at the moment, but it's appreciated nevertheless :)
Sidenote: Holy cow that's a lot of sleeves…
Its not that many sleeves really. Try putting every card from the Arkham Horror series into sleeves. Now THAT is a lot of sleeves. haha.
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The really sad part is that to sleeve all the cards you need for packs of sleeves (smaller mini-american size). Unfortuantely, unless you have another game to use them on, 48 of the fourth pack go to waste. Makes me wonder if FFG did that on purpose to sell more sleeves. I know it's not a ton money but if you don't want to buy that 4th pcak, just unsleeve to of the condition cards and leave them in the box.
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Unclechawie said:
The really sad part is that to sleeve all the cards you need for packs of sleeves (smaller mini-american size). Unfortuantely, unless you have another game to use them on, 48 of the fourth pack go to waste. Makes me wonder if FFG did that on purpose to sell more sleeves. I know it's not a ton money but if you don't want to buy that 4th pcak, just unsleeve to of the condition cards and leave them in the box.
Considering how varried the number of cards of any give size are in any given game, how many sleeves would you suggest they put in one pack?
But aside from that, cards and card sleeves have always had the same relationship as hot dogs and hot dog buns.
Most card games require a deck minimum of 60. So how may sleeves are in the standard pack? 50.
Yes, they love your money.
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I have every Dominion card sleeved and sorted. I feel your pain.
KristoffStark said:
Unclechawie said:
The really sad part is that to sleeve all the cards you need for packs of sleeves (smaller mini-american size). Unfortuantely, unless you have another game to use them on, 48 of the fourth pack go to waste. Makes me wonder if FFG did that on purpose to sell more sleeves. I know it's not a ton money but if you don't want to buy that 4th pcak, just unsleeve to of the condition cards and leave them in the box.
Considering how varried the number of cards of any give size are in any given game, how many sleeves would you suggest they put in one pack?
But aside from that, cards and card sleeves have always had the same relationship as hot dogs and hot dog buns.
Most card games require a deck minimum of 60. So how may sleeves are in the standard pack? 50.
Yes, they love your money.
I agree that from a business perspective they need to decide on a standard pack size. It just sucks that in this case, FFG decided the the appropriate number of cards for the game was 152 instead of 150. It wouldn't have been as annoying if there were 175 of those sized cards, but in my case, I don't have any other games that use that sized card. Thus 48 get to go to waste/get reserved (to replace damaged sleeves).
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Unclechawie said:
The really sad part is that to sleeve all the cards you need for packs of sleeves (smaller mini-american size). Unfortuantely, unless you have another game to use them on, 48 of the fourth pack go to waste. Makes me wonder if FFG did that on purpose to sell more sleeves. I know it's not a ton money but if you don't want to buy that 4th pcak, just unsleeve to of the condition cards and leave them in the box.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Luckily I had 56 mini american sleeves left since I bought WOW Boardgame and Arkham Horror, so I wil only have to buy 100 of them for Descent 2nd Edition… (Descent carries 152 mini american sized cards)
Unclechawie said:
The really sad part is that to sleeve all the cards you need for packs of sleeves (smaller mini-american size). Unfortuantely, unless you have another game to use them on, 48 of the fourth pack go to waste. Makes me wonder if FFG did that on purpose to sell more sleeves. I know it's not a ton money but if you don't want to buy that 4th pcak, just unsleeve to of the condition cards and leave them in the box.
Sadder is that, certainly in the UK, you can't get those mini American sleeves ANYWHERE. Starting to wish FFG just charged a few quid/dollars more and just added sleeves in with the game :)
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