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I seriously don't get all the confusion and disappointment. 99% of all "Next Edition" games don't offer anything at all to reuse stuff from the old edition. NOTHING!! They make you buy all new stuff and even re-buy updated old stuff, paying full price all over again. I for one am ecstatic about the opportunity to pay only $30 to reuse ALL my old characters and ALL the old monsters in this new edition. Would it be better if it were free? Sure! Is it unrealistic that it's not? Not at all. I'll happily purchase the main box too to get all NEW monsters and NEW characters as well, and not be paying $80 for updated versions of old stuff, which by the way to totally within their rights to do as nearly every other company does exactly that. If for some reason you don't want to pay $30 to use old stuff with the new edition, whether it's too expensive or you only have a few characters or monsters or whatever, then don't buy it. Just buy the main box and play 2e like most other new edition games and forget you ever owned the old edition like most other companies expect you to do.

So, thank you FFG. Thank you for giving me all new stuff in the main box and not reprints of old stuff. And thank you again for giving me a way to use stuff from an old edition. You didn't have to do anything that, and i'm thankful that you did.

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rshelley said:

I seriously don't get all the confusion and disappointment. 99% of all "Next Edition" games don't offer anything at all to reuse stuff from the old edition. NOTHING!! They make you buy all new stuff and even re-buy updated old stuff, paying full price all over again. I for one am ecstatic about the opportunity to pay only $30 to reuse ALL my old characters and ALL the old monsters in this new edition. Would it be better if it were free? Sure! Is it unrealistic that it's not? Not at all. I'll happily purchase the main box too to get all NEW monsters and NEW characters as well, and not be paying $80 for updated versions of old stuff, which by the way to totally within their rights to do as nearly every other company does exactly that. If for some reason you don't want to pay $30 to use old stuff with the new edition, whether it's too expensive or you only have a few characters or monsters or whatever, then don't buy it. Just buy the main box and play 2e like most other new edition games and forget you ever owned the old edition like most other companies expect you to do.

So, thank you FFG. Thank you for giving me all new stuff in the main box and not reprints of old stuff. And thank you again for giving me a way to use stuff from an old edition. You didn't have to do anything that, and i'm thankful that you did.

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rshelley said:

I seriously don't get all the confusion and disappointment. 99% of all "Next Edition" games don't offer anything at all to reuse stuff from the old edition. NOTHING!! They make you buy all new stuff and even re-buy updated old stuff, paying full price all over again. I for one am ecstatic about the opportunity to pay only $30 to reuse ALL my old characters and ALL the old monsters in this new edition. Would it be better if it were free? Sure! Is it unrealistic that it's not? Not at all. I'll happily purchase the main box too to get all NEW monsters and NEW characters as well, and not be paying $80 for updated versions of old stuff, which by the way to totally within their rights to do as nearly every other company does exactly that. If for some reason you don't want to pay $30 to use old stuff with the new edition, whether it's too expensive or you only have a few characters or monsters or whatever, then don't buy it. Just buy the main box and play 2e like most other new edition games and forget you ever owned the old edition like most other companies expect you to do.

So, thank you FFG. Thank you for giving me all new stuff in the main box and not reprints of old stuff. And thank you again for giving me a way to use stuff from an old edition. You didn't have to do anything that, and i'm thankful that you did.

I'm with kartigan, too. This is a huge WIN for FFG...

I, for one, cannot be more excited about the 2nd ed. release...and this conversion kit!

My sole complaint is how long it's taking...if not for release than for more information!!!!! :)

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I'm all for the release of the conversion kit, but I never purchased 1st edition. I only played. Does anyone know if Fantasy Flight plans to release figure sets from 1st edition?

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Eulerkun said:

I'm all for the release of the conversion kit, but I never purchased 1st edition. I only played. Does anyone know if Fantasy Flight plans to release figure sets from 1st edition?

Nothing has been announced as yet, but if it would make money for them, then I'm sure they are considering it.

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GTM had an ad on the back a couple months ago, and there was a pic of what the conversion kit will have:

Basically, you get Hero sheets and Monster cards. You might also get a small rulebook on how to "integrate" the monsters into the game, but that's pretty much it.

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shnar said:

GTM had an ad on the back a couple months ago, and there was a pic of what the conversion kit will have:

Basically, you get Hero sheets and Monster cards. You might also get a small rulebook on how to "integrate" the monsters into the game, but that's pretty much it.

-shnar

It's also been confirmed that there will be cards for three familiars, so it's possible there might be a few other cards as well (and possibly even some tokens).

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Eulerkun said:

I'm all for the release of the conversion kit, but I never purchased 1st edition. I only played. Does anyone know if Fantasy Flight plans to release figure sets from 1st edition?

Bear in mind that you can buy the conversion kit and play with it using proxies or figures from other games. Sure the actual figures would be ideal, but even non-1E owners can use the Conversion Kit if they want a bunch more heroes and monsters and don't mind having figs or proxies that don't match perfectly.

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Kartigan said:

Eulerkun said:

I'm all for the release of the conversion kit, but I never purchased 1st edition. I only played. Does anyone know if Fantasy Flight plans to release figure sets from 1st edition?

Bear in mind that you can buy the conversion kit and play with it using proxies or figures from other games. Sure the actual figures would be ideal, but even non-1E owners can use the Conversion Kit if they want a bunch more heroes and monsters and don't mind having figs or proxies that don't match perfectly.

I don't have all the promo figures from 1ed, but will buy this conversion kit so will have the cards for them. Be nice if I could buy the figures from somewhere...

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i'm having the same problem, still trying to track down

Truthseer Kel

Tobin Farslayer

Jonas the Kind

Nara the Fang

Tatianna

Krutzbeck

Hugo the Glorious

Lindel

Brother Gherinn

Challara

and now i'm wondering if the RTL leutenant minis will be in the conversion kit

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MCollier said:

and now i'm wondering if the RTL leutenant minis will be in the conversion kit

No, of course they won't! :P

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lemme rephrase that, and now i'm wondering if cards to make the RTL lieutenant minis useable monsters will be in the conversion kit

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The Goblin Archer card already eludes to lieutenants being used in 2e. Whether or not there are cards in the conversion kit for the 1e lts. remains to be seen.

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Torin Negatia said:

The Goblin Archer card already eludes to lieutenants being used in 2e. Whether or not there are cards in the conversion kit for the 1e lts. remains to be seen.

One of the 1E lieutenants has already been spoiled as appearing in 2E (the base game, not the conversion kit), so you will be able to use your lieutenant minis.

Want to use more expansion monsters in a RtL campaign? Download my dungeon level loadout sheet. Want more varied and interesting abilities for the heroes? Have a look at my Craft cards! After a more thematic Android experience? Check out Android: The Directors Cut. Tired of the same old plots? Try The Directors Cut - Alternate Plots. Want a different way to play BSG: Pegasus? Look at Pegasus: Razor Cut.

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Bleached Lizard said:

Torin Negatia said:

The Goblin Archer card already eludes to lieutenants being used in 2e. Whether or not there are cards in the conversion kit for the 1e lts. remains to be seen.

One of the 1E lieutenants has already been spoiled as appearing in 2E (the base game, not the conversion kit), so you will be able to use your lieutenant minis.

how the hell did i miss that lol, hmmm, so I suppose that means they are still using tokens for the luitenants, suppose now i've gotta hunt down those minis :)

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