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MarthWMaster said:
I once thought the same way as Darth Hideous on this, but have come to change my viewpoint. I'm gonna go through my own thought process on this. Hope it helps!
It's been established that a player can get a fully playable experience from a single Core Set "right out of the box," so why do I need the additional cards that a second provides? The answer, obviously, is I want to be as competitive as possible, which means having all the options at my disposal. The next player might be content with purchasing only a single Core Set, but not me. I don't do this in Magic -- why not?
Money. In Magic (or L5R, or Yu-Gi-Oh!, or whathaveyou), I spend my time opening card packs, hoping I pull something good or can trade for what I need; or in the singles market where, provided there are copies of the card available, I build my masterpiece card-by-card. Either way, this requires a heavy investment of time (unless I'm netdecking in which case it's someone else's masterpiece that I hope will work just as well for me), and more importantly, money - lots of money. All this is to ensure that my deck is able to destroy its competition. And it probably won't, since I play mostly for fun, but I still want my deck to be strong so I know that if I lose it's my screw-up, and not my deck's, that cost me the match.
Sometimes, I'll find out that the deck I've been meticulously planning over the course of a month, while strong, doesn't quite match my playstyle. Or it does, but I'm in the mood for something different. Too bad. I've spent a great deal of time and money on this deck and hell if I'm gonna let it sit in my bag doing nothing for any length of time. For a completionist like me, this drives me CRAZY! I could spend $900 and get the full playsets online, but then by the end of a cycle I'll have spent thousands of dollars for cards that won't even be legal for standard tournaments in two years.
Now, with that said, let's look at Star Wars: The Card Game. As I spend a few minutes looking at cards, I begin to notice ones that do things I like, and immediately an idea forms in my head. I don't have to go online to explore this idea, because I spent $80 - much less than the price of a single, random box of Magic - to buy two Core Sets and have a full playset of all the cards that are available to anyone. And I will never have to do this again, because the Force Packs and big-box expansions will each come with full playsets. I also got a metric ****-ton of the various tokens that are used in the game, so if I misplace a few, it's no big deal.
I like having options. But I also like having stuff in my wallet. With this game, I can have both.
Plus it's Star Wars.
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Darth Hideous said:
Well I just have to disagree. Even though I can understand that FFG need to get profit out of their products - but this is greedy never the less (and a waste of Co2).
I can see no reason what so ever not to make the starter box complete - with all the copies you need to make the decks you want. Allright I have to admit its not as bad as buying 3 core sets and severel of the booster packs (like warhammer) or buy booster after booster with random card (like magic) - witch is all about the money (there is a good reason why I stopped playing magic back in the days). And like I said I just hoped FFG would do better this time. (I think btw that they are doing real fine with the rules and quality of thier product - I have bought a lot of their products).
So much wrong with this and I don't just mean the spelling. And this "discussion" is getting old fast it comes up all the time. I have bought 3 copies of Android: Netrunner, giving me every card in at least 3 and most in 6-9. Which is awesome. Cost me $120. Now last year when I was playing WoW TCG I was spending at least $150 on two boxes of cards and still not getting entire playsets of some of the rares and the epics. I sold a bunch of those rares and epics and used the funds to get my 2nd and 3rd Netrunner boxes. I bought the extra boxes as I like to be able to build lots of decks. I have 6 right now.
FFG is not doing anything "wrong" as you have alluded to in two posts in this thread. They made a conscious decision to give us a complete game out of the box rather than a completist box. That way if you only ever buy one box then you still have plenty of variety and choices when it comes to making a deck. For Star Wars considering you can use all Dark Side/Light Side in any faction it is even less of an issue with the way deckbuilding is done.
I applaud FFG on their decision as I would rather a complete game in the box than 55 cards in 3 copies. That would get boring awfully fast. Also note you do not need multiples of every single card. And at the most you would have to buy two copies of Star Wars to have entire playsets for all of the objective sets. $80.00 for a complete playset, sounds good to me. Suck on that Magic the Greedy.
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The false assumption behind this thread is that FFG could afford to/would sell you a full play set at anything less then the price of the Core Set x2.
There is no reason to believe that is true, so calling FFG packaging a money grab is just plain false. They are increasing thier profits by offering the Core Set as is, but not from those that are going to want a full play set. They are are getting extra sales from those that will spend $40 dollars to try something, but not $80. Infact due to seperate packaging they are frankly making less money off the completionists.
ScottieATF said:
They are are getting extra sales from those that will spend $40 dollars to try something, but not $80.
This sentence should be the beginning and end of every thread about LCG core sets not containing a full playset. Its not about sticking it to completionists for fat profit, its about getting casual players to actually try the game.
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