Agreed. I am extremely disappointed that they switched from co-op to 2-player competitive. Not going to buy this now. My group was totally psyched to play a SW:LCG co-op game, but competitive is just not something we want.

 Disappointed as well. Will still buy the core set because its unfair to judge a book by its cover (or internet video) but based on what I've seen it will probably quickly make its way to the back of the closet. :(

clique84 said:

This. Some people keep saying "pvp players should shut up and just go play Decipher SW CCG". Well yeah, I would, but I won't be very likely to find other players, or tournaments with a decent turnout locally, or be able to get new players in to the game without it costing them a fortune.

So yeah, no harm in a new pvp Star Wars game that can start a fresh new tournament scene.

clique84 said:

Decipher games may be out of print but they still own almost everything on the market today :) I think what that dude was trying to get at is that he already owns these other games. (as I do .. well I own 2 complete games for pvp star wars) Nothign is stopping my play group busting that out now and then, why would we want a 3rd? or in his case a 4th.

booored said:

Because you can play it with other people than just your play group. For example, competitively, in an actual tournament scene again.

Mattr0polis said:

I was looking forward to a SW card game to play with friends/family, and wouldn't dream of going to some tournament. Not saying anybody's wrong here, just pointing out we all have different needs.

I already have one PvP card game that collects dust: Decipher's CCG. If I am going to spend money on a card game that no one will play with me anyway, I might just as well finish out collecting the Decipher game.

I'm not saying I won't buy this for sure, but it just went way into the negative column for me. At this point it's a no.

I just finished the demo video and honestly, it could be any theme. It just doesn't feel specifically "Star Wars" and it really seems like a mish-mash of eras already.

schmoo34 said:

Lolwut? This is still FFG we're talking about here, no?

Mattr0polis said:

Well, considering there is not a single competitive scene for ANY of there other card game in my entire country.. this is a non-issue for me. The LCGs are criminally underplayed and in may case, if you do not play with friends you do not play it.

MarthWMaster said:

Yeah I have to agree here, some board games are crazy set up time… Arkham Horror springs to mind :)

Tobogan said:

This.

I don't like to be forced to play only one side, when there are more to choose. Imagine the stupidity if Warhammer: Invasion was a co-op game, where you can play only High Elves, because Mr. Game Designer was so kind and decided for me whom I will be playing for.

 solo , standalone games are  for players with no social life , i prefer games with more than one player so that me and my friends can all enjoy it together

I can't decide if I like this better now or not… Honestly I play LOTR LCG so much that I'm not sure if I wanted another co-op game… And I was turned off by the idea of playing as the Rebellion the entire time.  Now if they would have done a Empire controlled co-op game I'd be all for it.

That being said, not really sure if I need another competitive Star Wars card game either…  I'm just taking a wait and see approach with the whole game, really.  But my hopes aren't exceptionally high, to say the least.

wormiespice said:

This is so cryptic. I'm having a difficult time deciding whether you are expressing approval or disapproval of the PvP remodel. On the one hand, "solo" and "standalone" describes the cooperative incarnation of the game, which could be played by one player versus the Empire Deck, whilst on the other, both versions of the game can be played "with more than one player," though only the cooperative version could be played with the 3+ participants implied by "me and my friends." Regardless, your suggestion is that at least one iteration of the Star Wars LCG is "for players with no social life," which is a hostile comment that will not generate any positive discussion.