So, I'm trying to get a feel for how big a 100 point team would be, and it's looking pretty massive to me. The lowest level TIE pilot they've revealed costs 3 points, while Luke and Vader cost 9. Then you have weapons that run 3 or 4 points (perhaps more), and I'm guessing the same for droids/tactics. So If you souped everybody up to maximum (about 20 points) you'd be fielding 4-5 ships, and the teams could only get bigger from there. Frankly, that's intimidating. Now, if you're one of those people that pre-ordered two starters and one of each expansion, you're probably set. I, on the other hand, don't think I'm going to be able to afford to be competitive. 

Parakitor said:

If those numbers are correct, that's worrying.  I would expect a "this game came out yesterday, now let's have a tournament" event to be run more along the lines of a starter and one or two expansions- if I need to run more than say, 4 X-wings, I might have to consider skipping the tournament.  On a related note, if we're going to want a ton of extra fighters, why include the pilot cards with all of them?  Such a waste- if the standard game is going to require a large number of ships, sell the expansions with more fighters so there's less duplication of the cards. 

 I just noticed that it says, "up to 100 points." So anybody can play, it's just the people with the most cash that will win. 

Conspyre, you make a good point about the waste of cards, but I think it's all about customization. If I can only afford one of every fighter, it's nice to have all of those pilots to choose from. If they included two fighters per expansion, I'd be able to use more of my cards, but the game would quickly move out of my price range.

 We actually haven't seen any of the costs yet.  We see the "Skill" box on the upper left, which is not where the cost is.  Cost of all pieces is on the lower right which in all the pictures I have seen have been very carefully covered.  It is on the same line as the equipment slot icons.

Starnite_IV said:

Ah, I am glad you shared your knowledge. Looking at pictures of demo cards from last year's GenCon I can see my mistake. Can't believe I forgot about that. I guess I just need to be patient to find out how squadron construction will all turn out.

 Took me a while to figure that out.  Mostly when I was going through the pics and doing a spreadsheet for the pilots.  I am guessing that 100 points will either net you either 1 expensive ship/2-3 cheap ships or 2 expensive ships/4-5 cheap ships.  

 Most likely Vader and his 2 cronies will be very close to 100 points.  Luke and Biggs are also likely to be around 100 points.  These are just guesses though, I could be way off.

Just my 2 credits :) 

Just remember to build two squads (one Rebel and one Imperial).

I'm not sure how they're going to run the tourney with only two "factions".  It'll be fun to see what turns up.  For $4.00 (2 generic tickets; on-site), it's a inexpensive tournament to enter.

SteveSpikes said:

the article says either imperial or rebel, and tournament seating ignores player faction. Soo… TIE on TIE action? The round ends in a….

qwertyuiop said:

Too good! Love that pun!

 If I'm spending $14 on one ship and 4-6 character cards and need several ships to even play the game in organized play, then I'm out. There's gotta be a cheaper way of gaining squads without buying the cards included in every pack. 

Well, I'm HALF-out. I expect I will buy the Starter and a TIE & Y-wing expansion pack just to see how it looks and have something in case Dog wants to play me; but otherwise I'm going to wait. Not totally Sold.

 IG-58, my vacation plans this year are all wrapped up, but I find myself wishing I could get together with you two and see how this game shakes out. I'm not an Organized Play kind of person, but I'd sure like to see how much fun is to be had with this game! Too bad it probably can't be played on Vassal…

I just received this email from Gen Con Events, informing tourney attendees of a change to the duration.

To all X-WIng™ competitors:

Due to an update in the tournament rules, we are extending the round length from 60 minutes to 75 minutes. This moves the end of the preliminary rounds from 4 PM to just after 6PM, with single-elimination rounds for the Top 8 following. Please direct any questions or comments to swilson@fantasyflightgames.com.

Thank you,

Stuart Wilson

Organized Play Associate

swilson@fantasyflightgames.com

This may draw some ire from those who might want to either drop out, or decide not to enter the tournament all together -- the whole day is shot to hell.  I'm still on the fence whether I want to drop out (and get a refund -- I "pre-registered" for the tourney, and still hope for the best for FFG).  We'll see what I do, when I get there.

Nicco said:

You need the cards in order to play that ship as a pilot with that skill. If you don't have it, you can't use it.

I suppose their other option is to only include one card per ship … but then in order to field multiple ships with the same skill pilot you'd need to buy even more packs.  Really, the best option is to include a number of pilots with a single ship model, so that players have the flexibility to use different pilots as needed.

Really, I don't see the problem with having multiple pilots per ship model. From what I can see, it is much better (and cheaper) than the alternative.

Well, the latest preview has some more detail on point costs, and I was pretty much right.

A "plain" skill 4 X-wing pilot is 23 points.

A rookie (skill 2) X-wing pilot is 21.

Luke w/R2, Proton torps, and Marksmanship would only be able to take 2x 21pt rookie wingmen.

So, Rebel forces are looking at 4 fighters max in 100 pts. Most likely 3-4.

Imperials range from 12pt (for the skill 1 rookie) to ~20 (we know skill 7 costs 17pts)

Imperials could get  8 ships max (all rookies), but most likely will be in the 5-6 ship range on average.