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I guess that when we see the Witer Child, and next the units shown at gencon they will be no less than competitive. And i'm more and more sure that we will see no A3 squads for SSU in the nearest future.
xBeakeRx said:
blkdymnd said:
No game company in the world would succeed if they didn't preview products. Everyone does it. No one shows pictures AFTER they're ready to sell, that's silly. And Tactics has rarely been late when they've actually given a date. SSU got slighted a bit on release, not badly. The Hades stuff is already on the boat.
And delusional? If you think you need attack choppers to win a game, then you need some better lists, SSU have plenty of teeth in their current state.
While SSU are playable, they are at a significant handicap when faced up against heavily armored enemies. They currently lack in anti-tank weaponry, pretty significantly too. They desperately need the RG anti-tank squad and some sort of armored anti-walker unit, like the attack chopper or fury of Ivan. Other than that I agree SSU are playable, but ultimately not on a competitive balance with the axis and allies.
As an SSU player, I don't find your statement true, Helicopters and Frakeli are more than capable of taking down tanks and tough units and the advantage of the SSU is that every unit can damage A3 infantry even in close combat, even more so now they can have unlimited Molotovs thanks to the Commisars.
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For those who are impatient for the rest of the Zverograd SSU units, they are available in Premium form from Dust Models website now:
Major Mishap said:
xBeakeRx said:
blkdymnd said:
No game company in the world would succeed if they didn't preview products. Everyone does it. No one shows pictures AFTER they're ready to sell, that's silly. And Tactics has rarely been late when they've actually given a date. SSU got slighted a bit on release, not badly. The Hades stuff is already on the boat.
And delusional? If you think you need attack choppers to win a game, then you need some better lists, SSU have plenty of teeth in their current state.
While SSU are playable, they are at a significant handicap when faced up against heavily armored enemies. They currently lack in anti-tank weaponry, pretty significantly too. They desperately need the RG anti-tank squad and some sort of armored anti-walker unit, like the attack chopper or fury of Ivan. Other than that I agree SSU are playable, but ultimately not on a competitive balance with the axis and allies.
As an SSU player, I don't find your statement true, Helicopters and Frakeli are more than capable of taking down tanks and tough units and the advantage of the SSU is that every unit can damage A3 infantry even in close combat, even more so now they can have unlimited Molotovs thanks to the Commisars.
I don't really see how helicopters are good at taking down armored vehicles…the can only damage walkers up to armor 3. Anything A4+ is impervious to the helicopters machine gun. Back to my original statement, if you have an enemy fielding 3 or 4 medium walkers the SSU will be hard pressed to take them down.
I think this point is mitigated in smaller point games where the enemy can't field more than a couple medium walkers/tanks, but in anything 200+ points I think SSU really start to suffer in the current meta. I currently use 2 transport heli's and 2 fakyeli in my 300 point list, and have a hard time taking down enemy armor. Once they focus fire and take out the fakyeli there isn't much left to bring them down and they get free reign of the battlefield.
Again, this is just my experience, you may have a different opinion within your gaming group, but this is just what I've found to be true in the current state of Dust Tactics.
Without Signature
Helicopters carry the Fraks to the target so they arrive in one piece.
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Major Mishap said:
Even better news, the KV copter and SSU heroes are also up for order and all three now date 20th August :)
Well the 20th of August has come and gone and still no releases.
Panzer soldier said:
Major Mishap said:
Even better news, the KV copter and SSU heroes are also up for order and all three now date 20th August :)
Well the 20th of August has come and gone and still no releases.
On the 20th, the premium editions went up for sale on dust-models.com
Not sure if that's what was meant by the release date, but they are technically available for purchase, for those who want pre-paints or who are just really impatient and have the extra cash.
Some online retailers have dropped the preorder flag on them as well. Maybe some LGS's just haven't received them yet.
My premium order shoud be arriving tomorrow :)
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Seblys said:
My premium order shoud be arriving tomorrow :)
Someone on the Facebook group got theirs as well and snapped a shot of the heroes. Looks pretty good.
Picked mine up from the post office today, very nice. I wonder why they're starting to include all the weapon options with the premium sets now? Would be nice if they went back and did that for all the previous vehicle releases.
Without Signature
So my question is how long after they release the premiums, does FFG usually release the regular models?
One of you old timers must know or have an educated guess. Loop Hole, Major, Gimp any one?
Panzer soldier said:
So my question is how long after they release the premiums, does FFG usually release the regular models?
One of you old timers must know or have an educated guess. Loop Hole, Major, Gimp any one?
Normally it's a consistent release. Usually when Dust Studios release theirs for sale, the FFG stock is normally on the way to stores
So now August has come and gone and still no SSU units? I preordered most of the units five months ago. WTF!!!!
Panzer soldier said:
So now August has come and gone and still no SSU units? I preordered most of the units five months ago. WTF!!!!
Read the newest news article (came out today)
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