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Elder Sign
A fast-paced game of dice and dementia
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Not trying to induce pessimism
Published on 10 June 2011 - 20:50:17

 I am a huge fan of Arkham Horror. I have wasted many hours of my life trying to keep the courage from having to face Hastur and Yog-Sothoth. I have not played Mansions of Madness, yet, but I am hearing that it can get predictable. I am sure an expansion or two might solve this. I am not trying to beat this new game down at all. I haven't played it, I don't know how it is. Looking through the FFG page on it, I see reused artwork from Arkham Horror and I even see a section title MADNESS AND HORROR or something of that nature. (Mansions of)MADNESS and (Arkham) HORROR. I just hope FFG doesn't waste efforts into kicking out a medicore game thinking it'll sell like crazy because it has the ARKHAM HORROR stamp on it. I want this game to be good. Just FFG, please don't rush this. Take your time. 

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Reply #1 | Published on 13 June 2011 - 17:12:08

I wouldn't worry much.

I don't mind that there is reused artwork. Having new artwork for every new game, especially if the game features similar thematic elements to previous games in the genre, makes the game needlessly expensive.

Also, from its description, it looks like the game plays very differently from any previous games. It's a card and dice game, which already makes it radically different from Arkham Horror and Mansions of Madness. It looks like a "pick up and play" mythos-themed game that is sort of like "Arkham Horror Lite." Think of it as this: Elder Sign is to Settlers of Catan: The Card Game as Arkham Horror is to Settlers of Catan.

I think you worry needlessly.

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Reply #2 | Published on 13 June 2011 - 19:36:18

FFG are the undisputed kings of reusing artwork, so you better just get used to that.  :)

 

Doc Belmont said:

Also, from its description, it looks like the game plays very differently from any previous games. It's a card and dice game, which already makes it radically different from Arkham Horror and Mansions of Madness. It looks like a "pick up and play" mythos-themed game that is sort of like "Arkham Horror Lite." Think of it as this: Elder Sign is to Settlers of Catan: The Card Game as Arkham Horror is to Settlers of Catan.

 

Ick, I hope that analogy isn't true.  

Reply #3 | Published on 14 June 2011 - 10:46:05
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Doc Belmont said:

I don't mind that there is reused artwork. Having new artwork for every new game, especially if the game features similar thematic elements to previous games in the genre, makes the game needlessly expensive.

This.

I never understood the complaints about reused artwork. Really good artwork  exists for it so why not make the most of it rather than on a single card in arkham horror or call of cthulhu lcg?

To each their own I guess. I persoanlly like to see some art used in different manners and like that the recycle keeps the initial cost lower than it would be otherwise.

That said, I too am cautiously optimistic about the game.

Reply #4 | Published on 14 June 2011 - 17:03:33

Re-cycled art or not,  I still believe that this will be a great game. I can not wait!

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Reply #5 | Published on 14 June 2011 - 21:52:52

bluecrane said:

Re-cycled art or not,  I still believe that this will be a great game. I can not wait!

 

That's the spirit!

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Reply #6 | Published on 15 June 2011 - 03:58:28

 I'm worried because it's a dice game. Dice? Osh...

All that we see or seen is nothing but a Dream within a Dream

Reply #7 | Published on 15 June 2011 - 09:31:18

Robert Blake said:

 I'm worried because it's a dice game. Dice? Osh...

Hey, craps is a dice game and it's revolutionized the way I lose money!

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Reply #8 | Published on 16 June 2011 - 16:06:58

I'm happy with some degree of recycled artwork as it gives continuity to the theme.

"Judge me by my size would you?"

Reply #9 | Published on 16 June 2011 - 22:10:23

Robert Blake said:

 I'm worried because it's a dice game. Dice? Osh...

 

Wha?  Arkham Horror is in a large respect a "dice game." 

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Reply #10 | Published on 23 June 2011 - 03:45:34

Robert Blake said:

 I'm worried because it's a dice game. Dice? Osh...

 

Try 'A game of thrones' instead :)

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Reply #11 | Published on 26 June 2011 - 22:04:39

I would hardly call it rushed. I've read mentions of an Arkham dice game for about a year. As a matter of fact the "mystery game" at last year's Arkham Nights was allegedly a dice game (turned out to be Mansions of Madness).

Cthulhu and FFG have treated each other pretty well. Arkham is a classic. Mansions is fun. Call of Cthulhu the card game is great and underappreciated. FFG hasn't missed yet on the Lovecraftian theme. I don't expect they missed this time, either.

As far as reused artwork goes, FFG has produced the best Lovecraftian artwork since Chaosium. I don't mind that they reuse some of it. You'll see most of the newer stuff in the LCG, About 20 new pieces of art a month. 

 

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Reply #12 | Published on 15 July 2011 - 06:57:32

Trump said:

Doc Belmont said:

 

Also, from its description, it looks like the game plays very differently from any previous games. It's a card and dice game, which already makes it radically different from Arkham Horror and Mansions of Madness. It looks like a "pick up and play" mythos-themed game that is sort of like "Arkham Horror Lite." Think of it as this: Elder Sign is to Settlers of Catan: The Card Game as Arkham Horror is to Settlers of Catan.

 

 

 

Ick, I hope that analogy isn't true.  

 

ugh!! this...

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Reply #13 | Published on 17 July 2011 - 18:33:10

C'mon, guys. Stop the hatin' on dice. They have feelings too, you know. 

 

I happen to love dice! I love games with dice! Bring on the dice! 

 

<stands>

Hello, my name is magehammer, and I am a dice addict. 

 

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Reply #14 | Published on 08 August 2011 - 11:33:06

Streven said:

Trump said:

 

Doc Belmont said:

 

Also, from its description, it looks like the game plays very differently from any previous games. It's a card and dice game, which already makes it radically different from Arkham Horror and Mansions of Madness. It looks like a "pick up and play" mythos-themed game that is sort of like "Arkham Horror Lite." Think of it as this: Elder Sign is to Settlers of Catan: The Card Game as Arkham Horror is to Settlers of Catan.

 

 

 

Ick, I hope that analogy isn't true.  

 

 

 

ugh!! this...

 

Yay!  this...

Picked it up at Gencon and we played it twice before the end of the weekend.  That's saying something with all the other games I picked up.  It's a great game and the description "Arkham Horror Lite" is a good one...in both its ability to describe the nature of the game and in the game play itself.  Highly recommended!

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Reply #15 | Published on 17 August 2011 - 22:30:06

As someone who played the Call of Cthulhu LCG before getting a chance with Arkham Horror, I for one was thrilled with the re-used art assets.  For me it added to the sense that all of these adventures were taking place in the same world and characters were spilling from one game into another.  Really adds to my enjoyment of both products.

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