Should have been made freely available as soon as it was written, not saved for some pointless event. I presume FFG actually want people to buy BC.

signoftheserpent said:

Do you also believe that christmas and birthday presents should be given as soon as they're bought rather than waiting for the event they've been bought for?

You may regard Free RPG Day as pointless, but you're not a Local Gaming Store looking to draw in a crowd of potential new customers (the reason that Free RPG Day exists; it's common for the publishers of RPGs to take action like this to support those local stores).

signoftheserpent said:

I don't know how you sir make a living, but I do suppose you sometimes have to sell something, too...

Marketing is much more complex than just spilling the beans about the product. Sometimes, you have to build up anticipation, reveal your cards slowly etc.

Sometimes, you have other goals than just selling your product. Free RPG Day is a joint venture between publishers and gaming stores. Stores benefit from the exclusive, free content being handed out, publishers benefit from hyping their products to people who might never visit publishers' sites.

Ironically, the fact that we spend time discussing the game even before it's release means most marketing effort is wasted on us, as we're likely to buy it anyway. Hence, alienating us (temporarily, at that) in favor of people visiting gaming stores looks like a sound marketing strategy.

This.

FFG usually waits a bit before releasing the free PDFs. I like it, makes me want to attend the events more.

@signoftheserpent

Should have been made freely available as soon as it was written, not saved for some pointless event. I presume FFG actually want people to buy BC.

And considering that you're still going to buy it, your presumption has no impact at all.

 You're right. You should get something for nothing.

All that sitting around you're doing needs to be rewarded!

I wouldn't mind so much if I was in the UK or America, but cause in Australia we're ahead 10 hours the free rpg day occurs on our Sunday, so the stores are shut and it gets pushed to Monday. I can't really justify taking an hour plus off of work for a free event.

If we got it ahead of the US people would probably (rightly) cry foul but still its a bit incovienent for us.

signoftheserpent said:

Sometimes there are players who look the adventures for spoilers. I think in FRPGD some games are played in which the players doesn't know very well each other. I think in such games, it's better not to have the adventure released.

Anyway, I can't wait too for the adventure to be released, now that it has been played.

Fwiw:

I specifically went through the "trouble" to go get it (I realise this is not an option for everyone) and while I do not really care if I am one of a few select or the rest of the world has it I would certainly not have gone if I knew it would have been realeased just a day or two after the event. Which I think is somewhat the point in many ways.

 They are bound by the terms of Free RPG day not to release the PDF or sell the print version until after the event. The point of the event isn't to get it into the hands of people who are already eagerly awaiting the product. The point is to get people who have never heard of the product to take a look.

In any event, the PDF will be up soon enough. You'll have plenty of time to play and replay it before the official release.

For what it's worth, I love the Broken Chains booklet and I want to give two thumbs up to the FFG crew for their excellent work.

To those of you who have managed to get hold of it, and say you like it - awesome! I'm glad I'm finally allowed to talk about it

I love the rules changes in regards to standard attacks, semi-auto and full-auto (and the same in melee, but with swift attack instead of semi-auto) - it helps to balance the different combat options a lot better, so it's not just automatically a better option to go full-auto all the time, as "spray-and-pray" might well not hit the target, but a single shot will. It's a good trade off, I think.

Just a couple notes:

Swift attack says half action, not full action in my copy of the book (a post up thread said full), it appears to be an awesome talent.

I like Babaroth, the downloadable Khorne Beserker but Frenzy may be better as a RP device than an in combat one. I'm having reservations concerning two weapon wielder as well (compared to swift attack and semi/fullauto). A question concerning frenzy, does he get to do 1d10 + 15 while in frenzy or is the +10 cap still in effect for stat bonuses (I'm certain he gets the 1DR for his T bonus increasing)?

The carrion hunters have a sort of horde mechanic put on them only for attacking CSM where if 3 of them can attack 1 CSM they do so with a +20 bonus and double damage.

I've been away from 40K games for awhile as I was awaiting Deathwatch and then my finances tanked but this might draw me back.

 I like Babaroth, the downloadable Khorne Beserker but Frenzy may be better as a RP device than an in combat one.

Could you explain that? +10 WS, S, T and WP doesn't sound shabby to me, especially since there's no restriction on parrying.

I'm having reservations concerning two weapon wielder as well (compared to swift attack and semi/fullauto).

While a character with a monstrous WS might find Swift Attack better, Babaroth has better chances with TWW from what little I've seen from the rules. When he's in a stand-up fight, the only thing he can get for his second half action is Aim or perhaps a Feint (*). On the other hand side, an enemy that has only one reaction flat-out can't parry both hits from TWW while he needs only additional DoS on his Dodge or Parry to negate the hits from a Swift Attack. Further, TWW has a much better chance to hit at least once, which may be all that's needed when you're a seven feet tall hulking berserker in powered armour doing somewhere around 1D10+16 Tearing points of damage per attack. Still, I'd assume you can combine Swift Attack and TWW in the full rules as you previously could. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

(*) though his 'Feint' would probably be more along the lines of "Hack the enemy weapon to bits before you do the same to the enemy".

A question concerning frenzy, does he get to do 1d10 + 15 while in frenzy or is the +10 cap still in effect for stat bonuses (I'm certain he gets the 1DR for his T bonus increasing)?

Is there a +10 cap for stat bonuses now? That would be a new thing, as lots of monsters had higher Toughness bonuses than 10 before.