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Blood Pact said:
Well, if you want to get technical, the game does brush lightly up against the setting of Eisenhorn and Ravenor. Since the Scarus Sector is relatively nearby.
I'm curious as to where this vortex that Black Crusade is set in is located.
But it isn't mentioned in any detail at all, just that it's there. They wouldn't be able to, for instance, develop on the planets there, or anything like that.
The Vortex, if you look on the Rogue Trader map, is in the Warp Storms between the Calixis Sector and the Koronus Expanse, so it's still near the established 40k RPG setting.
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Peacekeeper_b said:
Could be very intriguing. I am just fear a Palladium esque line of games though. A bunch of core books, few real sourcebooks.
Me too. While cool. I worry they've had a few problems with timely sourcebooks the way it is, a new line feels like it will just exacerbate matters.
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MILLANDSON said:
You are, of course, assuming that Chaos are the bad guys. As you can see from the Horus Heresy books, they think they are fighting to save Humanity and give it a better leader that cares about them, rather than an absent father figure "Emperor" who sits in his labratories trying to reach divinity.
As you can tell from the current setting, he succeeded, which just proves how the forces that followed Horus were right to carry out their war against the Emperor.
There are so many ways you can run those who follow Chaos that you will run into just as many cultists who believe they are doing the right thing and are fighting for freedom from a corrupt, fascistic theocratic dictatorship as you will people who are doing it for their own selfish benefit and fully know and intend for how evil they are.
My Black Crusade group currently is pretty split between the two, which makes for some interesting in-game conflict 
So yea, I wouldn't worry about it being all about "playing the bad guy".
Yesss ... some Chaos groups claim a kind of hazy moral high ground, but in canon it is almost always ... if not in fact always ... shown, despite any airy claims to the contrary, to be in fact utterly ruinous and for lack of a better word 'evil'. Heck the Word Bearers claim to be good guys out to save humanity ... but the facts are they are by any sane standards demonically evil in their actions and the results of their actions.
Sure non-Chaotic anti-Imperial groups aren't necessarily inherently 'evil', but I do think (though they themselves usually can't see it) Chaotic groups are always evil ... or at best deluded and not yet fully corrupted and consumed by the Ruinous Powers.
That aside, the art and tone of the stuff so far certainly suggests this is a game for 'evil' Chaotic pcs to me.
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Dulahan said:
Peacekeeper_b said:
Could be very intriguing. I am just fear a Palladium esque line of games though. A bunch of core books, few real sourcebooks.
Me too. While cool. I worry they've had a few problems with timely sourcebooks the way it is, a new line feels like it will just exacerbate matters.
This.
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Adam France said:
Yesss ... some Chaos groups claim a kind of hazy moral high ground, but in canon it is almost always ... if not in fact always ... shown, despite any airy claims to the contrary, to be in fact utterly ruinous and for lack of a better word 'evil'. Heck the Word Bearers claim to be good guys out to save humanity ... but the facts are they are by any sane standards demonically evil in their actions and the results of their actions.
Sure non-Chaotic anti-Imperial groups aren't necessarily inherently 'evil', but I do think (though they themselves usually can't see it) Chaotic groups are always evil ... or at best deluded and not yet fully corrupted and consumed by the Ruinous Powers.
That aside, the art and tone of the stuff so far certainly suggests this is a game for 'evil' Chaotic pcs to me.
Because 90% of the Black Library books released by GW totally aren't written from an Imperial point of view... 
You just have to look at Traitor General to see that, really, Chaos, once established on a world, are only really as "evil" as the Imperium of Man is.
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As mentioned in another thread in this forum the Screaming Vortex is located betwixt Calixus Sector and the Koronus Expanse.
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Yesss ... some Chaos groups claim a kind of hazy moral high ground, but in canon it is almost always ... if not in fact always ... shown, despite any airy claims to the contrary, to be in fact utterly ruinous and for lack of a better word 'evil'. Heck the Word Bearers claim to be good guys out to save humanity ... but the facts are they are by any sane standards demonically evil in their actions and the results of their actions.
Sure non-Chaotic anti-Imperial groups aren't necessarily inherently 'evil', but I do think (though they themselves usually can't see it) Chaotic groups are always evil ... or at best deluded and not yet fully corrupted and consumed by the Ruinous Powers.
That aside, the art and tone of the stuff so far certainly suggests this is a game for 'evil' Chaotic pcs to me.
Now exactly what part of this doesn't apply to the Imperium of Man?
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MILLANDSON said:
You are, of course, assuming that Chaos are the bad guys. As you can see from the Horus Heresy books, they think they are fighting to save Humanity and give it a better leader that cares about them, rather than an absent father figure "Emperor" who sits in his labratories trying to reach divinity.
As you can tell from the current setting, he succeeded, which just proves how the forces that followed Horus were right to carry out their war against the Emperor.
There are so many ways you can run those who follow Chaos that you will run into just as many cultists who believe they are doing the right thing and are fighting for freedom from a corrupt, fascistic theocratic dictatorship as you will people who are doing it for their own selfish benefit and fully know and intend for how evil they are.
My Black Crusade group currently is pretty split between the two, which makes for some interesting in-game conflict
So yea, I wouldn't worry about it being all about "playing the bad guy".
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I know that you can't talk about alot of the testing but could you just confirm if you have a mixed group of cultist's and marines or just one or the other.
Thx
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I know that you can't talk about alot of the testing but could you just confirm if you have a mixed group of cultist's and marines or just one or the other.
He already did in another thread.
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Sorry to be lazy could you tell me what thread pls ?
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