Bullroarer Took said:

doubt it….i reckon we have another preview to go, and if youre like me and live in europe- probably another fortnight/3 weeks….and my supplier usually gets it a week later…so a month for me ….wah!

richsabre said:

I thought they said that FaS is coming out this week?  Or did I misunderstand the question?

www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=3437

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(Edited again to correct stupid link-altering function of the editor)

Pharmboys2013 said:

I guess he kinda does look like Hagrid from Harry Potter… Still, very fun to try 2-player, with Dain in the other deck.

Edit: Just to be clear, I really do like Baracchi's contribution to the game. Great stuff!

benhanses said:

You did not misunderstand the question, I missed where they said it was coming out next (this) week.  And since I nearly always get it Thursday of release week I will be playing by the weekend.  Thanks.

benhanses said:

ah i missed that also- still it doesnt change the fact that us poor sods in europe will be waiting another fortnight- 3 weeks for it…i only hope picture spoilers are put up on the internet quicker than last time

I dislike spoilers.. I read the previews from ffg but i nvr look at full lists. I think it really ruins the surprise of the quest when you first play it. You open teh pack read teh quest then can tool a new deck using teh new player cards… all that fun gone

What do you guy think about the treasure card… can it be used in normal decks liek a player card?

all of FFG's articles about the treasures state that they must be "earned" from the encounter deck and then, and only then, can they be included in subsequent scenarios in the story line. if you didn't find it in the first play through, you can't play it in the subsequent scenario(s).

of course, you can decide to play with it if you want, no matter what, but it seems like no, it cannot be in your deck. it sounds like the quests are designed to be played one right after the other, so the heros "stay in play" between quests and the treasure is still attached, it never enters the deck.

yeah that is what it looks like.. kind of like an objective.. but it says in the trailer that it is a "player card" I am more woundering aboout when you build decks for other quests… like do you put it in teh encounter deck or somthing?

booored said:

They almost certainly will only be relevant in some sort of linked campaign (Nightmare mode, or whatever similar variant is introduced in the boxed set). I suspect they'll have player card backs (the ring design) but have special scenario rules setting them aside (a la The Watcher). They'll probably be "unlocked" by exploring a certain location or progressing past a particular quest stage. Then, when you play the next scenario(s) in that progression, you can include the treasures in your draw deck. But it seems like you won't be able to just put treasures in your deck and play, say, Massing at Osgiliath. They only work within Hobbit scenarios, and only if you play those scenarios as a connected campaign.

I'm particularly intrigued by Caleb's revelation that treasures are immune to effects that target attachments. From the FAQ, we know that treasures should count as attachments (as any card that attaches to another card is considered an attachment in addition to its other types). So, there must be an explicit rule granting treasures this special protection. 

Very excited about this preview. I was a little disappointed about Thorin's art too, although I do like the Gandalf. I'm still a new player (Core + 4 SoM), so I won't get to OHaUH for a little while, but I'm looking forward to catching up. I hope that IF FFG continues to release "saga" expansions they will be more faithful to Tolkien's work than PJ's movies were.

John85 said:

this game is very faithful to tolkiens work and even if ffg do go down the road of once again releasing packs to coincide with movie releases, i dont see it as much of a problem as they are based on the books (which is the best part of this game), its just a pain the world of midle earth has to bow down to jackson- still he brings the rest of the people more exposure and money blah blah….still it doesnt change much, and i fully expect that ffg will continue to do a top standard job with the lore of middle earth

as for the art i actually like it - we have had WAY to many magali pieces in the last cycle- and yes she is amazing and many of my favourite characters are illustrated by her, i just like the variation, its nice to see different takes on people. also i dont mean to pick here, but sometimes i find magali's art a tiny bit too digital….just a matter of taste

rich

richsabre said:

I completely agree with this comment Rich (and have enjoyed your posts on the forum in my limited time here so far; really like the blog you have going, great for folks who have questions/haven't done the heavy reading). FFG has done an excellent job (from what I've seen), and I hope they'll keep their standard high.

I'm not familiar enough with the artists yet to comment on your second point.

John85 said:

I guess my only complaint is that it doesn't scream "I'm a dwarf!" The hood is a nice touch (I actually didn't fully appreciate it when I wrote the quoted post), and obviously the beard is dwarvish, but it seems like something is missing…

starhawk77 said:

This bothered me as well. I wonder if Caleb just misremembered when he typed that up? Or if there really will be special extra rules for the treasures. I guess it'd make sense since they're special cards and it would suck to earn one only to have it discarded to some lowly encounter card, but still, kinda goes against all other similar rulings up to this point. Though I guess that shouldn't surprise me either…

John85 said:

thank you kindly