I kind of wish FFG would get off the Secrecy kick. IMO it's a bad - strike that, terrible - ability that doesn't mesh with the concepts of the rest of the game. When you have to design an entire subset of cards to work in tandem in order to make a keyword ability play within the rules of the game you've created, I'm sorry but that is not a success.

After looking at the new ally preview card today, I can tell you I was already thinking about what I would take out of the deck I play in solo to fit 2-3 of those in. It looks like a great card to be sure. But then I read the write-up with the preview, and I was like, umm what? How does this card help Secrecy? Who cares! The question should be: How does Secrecy help THIS CARD, or THE DECK? She pairs great with the Zigil Miner for people who need a ton of resources, but I think she will have great use in general for finding the cards you need at just the right time. Secrecy is the last thing on my mind. 

 Secrecy would be on your mind if you like playing with less than 3 heroes.

Personally I think it's a good attempt to make card costs scale with hero count on a single rule. I'm not sure it's strictly the neatest way. (Having cards with a split cost 2/4 - would be the same but not require a key word). I do quite like it being tied to threat as in - the evil hasn't noticed you yet and you build up.

It gives you a new way to play and makes some cards shine. They're only harping on about secrecy so much because it's "the" thing for this cycle.

I wonder if we'll see more eagles and more secrecy cards ever after this cycle.

So far secrecy doesn't work in solo mode. I will give it a try against The Long Dark, but so far I have been disappointed with this concept. It doesn't work against any of the Mirkwood and KD scenarios at all.

i have yet to work with secrecy properly….as a purely solo player it doesnt offer all that much…saying that i quite like the idea, and dont want them to give up on it yet

rich

I like the idea of secrecy. It's increasing deck diversity. Without it, there would be virtually no one playing with 1 or 2 heroes.

I also feel that there are not enough good secrecy cards out there currently. I wait until the cycle ends. Support of the Eagles and Eagles of the Misty Mountains were 2 very important cards for eagle decks, and FFG put them in the last AP of the Mirkwood cycle. So I hope we will see a few more good secrecy cards in the last 2 APs.

leptokurt said:

 I was able to solo Journey to Rivendell using a secrecy deck and Aragorn (Leadship) with Bifur. It worked very well, as that quest has a boat load of ambushes, but my threat was low the entire time, so I was able to sneak past most combatants. It also worked because arwin generates resources, which is the biggest problem I've experienced running the same deck in other quests. When I tried the same deck on Watcher in the water (which has a lot of cards that hit your resources, I was basically having to auto restart if i didn't draw one of my   3 resourceful's and 2 stewards in my opening draw. Even then,  It couldn't beat this mission with it.

I guess it depends on the deck and the quest, but its not impossible.

Captain Poe said:

Yes, this is the one scenario where secrecy absolutely shines. Watcher OTOH is not for secrecy - which is a shame as they made a big deal about sneaking around the Watcher with a secrecy deck. Haven't tried secrecy against Redhorn yet, I think it could work there too.

Ok, after five attempts I finally beat TLD with a secrecy deck (Bifur/Frodo). First game I had two Goblin Followers in round 1 and 2. In game 2 I had two of those spiders who force you to discard 4 cards - which means I had no deck at all anymore. In my six games Arwen never appeared, apparently she had to spent some time in front of her mirror instead of joining my fellowship - or she was busy holding Elassar's hand. Who knows…

 When the Eagles cards first came out I didn't think they worked very well.  It wasn't until the entire Mirkwood cycle was finished that I learned to appreciate them.  With that in mind I'm trying not to judge Secrecy too early, but…

Secrecy is NOT a free lunch.  Just because those enemies don't engage right away doesn't mean they're gone.  They're threat is still a factor and sooner or later you'll have to face them, often more than one at a time once your threat reaches the tipping point.  And if you track VPs (which I don't) you are giving away 10 points a turn while you are sneaking around.  So I don't think Secrecy is quite ready yet, and it may never be for me.

The Watcher - together with Dol Guldur obviously - is the worst quest to use the secrecy on. It is funny since they spent much effort on secrecy in the Watcher previews, even posted the deck that has little to no chance beating the quest.

But I really like the idea and am quite surprised how well it works already, given it shall work much better still with the card pool surely growing much yet. Timely Aid and Resourceful are the main strategy cards now, I say.

Hmmmh, three wins in a row now against TLD, with an average result of 95. Not too bad

As long as I am not confronted with the real nasty cards I have a chance and can even score mediocre results. I am hinking about adding a third hero - Dúnhere, Dwalin, or Eleanor…?

As above, I didnt use the Eagles until the whole set was out… gotta have things in completion!

 I havent actually played any Darrowdelf scenarios yet, I need the whole set before I start, I did the same thing with Mirkwood!

 Im sure when the cycle is complete secrecy will rock!!

so (this may be a stupid question) will secrecy continue on after the cycle?

 I suppose that depends on what you're asking. Will you still be able to run secrecy decks? Sure. Will FFG continue to print cards with a Secrecy discount? Not sure. I hope so. It would be a shame to let this mechanic go by as a one-cycle fling, especially since it's not like every card so far has had a secrecy cost.

Budgernaut said:

yes i was meaning would they continue to print the secrecy cards…personally i think there wont be all that many of them if its a once cycle thing…..i would assume they would continue…but could be wrong!

The good thing about secrecy is that they can quite easily target cards at both secrecy and normal decks just by adjusting the price of the card. For instance, Timely Aid can be a fantastic card in any deck, it just happens to scale to be effective in secrecy. I can certainly imagine that it makes card design more challenging to target cards at both strategies but it can be done . . .