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Dunhere question
Published on 25 April 2011 - 02:14:50
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Dunhere's card says he can attack enemies in the Staging area and gets +1 Attack Strength if he attacks alone.  Does this mean that other characters can't attack at all when he does this (even normally against enemies that you are engaged with).  Or just that he has to attack the enemy in the staging area alone.

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Reply #1 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 05:17:40

The later. It seems to be written this way with other Heroes/Allies/Cards allowed to attack enemies in the staging area in the future. At the moment, he always attacks alone into the staging area.

 

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Reply #2 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 05:28:21
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Thanks I figured it was probably that, but I just had a nagging thought whilst playing the other day.  Time to try out my Aragorn/Theodred/Dunhere deck!

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Reply #3 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 08:07:18

 Does him attacking alone give him the +1 attack, or him attacking the staging area alone give him the +1 attack?

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Reply #4 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 08:15:53

He gets the +1 when he attacks an enemy in the staging area, which he can only do alone.

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Reply #5 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 09:39:15

I assumed they were seperate effects. Ie. He can attack enemies in the staging area And he gets +1 when attacking alone. So the anwser to your question would be that he gets +1 when attacking alone, regardless of where the target is. I assume this is a mechanic to regulate cards released later that may or may not be able to attack cards in the staging area too.

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Reply #6 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 09:56:29

DerBarchen said:

I assumed they were seperate effects. Ie. He can attack enemies in the staging area And he gets +1 when attacking alone. So the anwser to your question would be that he gets +1 when attacking alone, regardless of where the target is. I assume this is a mechanic to regulate cards released later that may or may not be able to attack cards in the staging area too.

They do not appear to be separate effects.

"Dúnhere can target enemies in the staging area when he attacks alone. When doing so, he gets +1 [Attack]."

The "so" in "when doing so" appears to imply "target enemies in the staging area when he attacks alone." 

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Reply #7 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 10:10:14

I agree with HyenaSpotz they are not seperate effects.

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Reply #8 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 11:59:26

 Another Dunhere question.

When attacking enemies in the staging area, do they get there defense subtracted from the attack total, or is it straight damage?

We've been playing it straight damage, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

Thanks,

Don

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Reply #9 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 12:05:01

Hastur360 said:

I agree with HyenaSpotz they are not seperate effects.

Ah yesh! I read that wrong o.O HyenaSpotz is completely correct!

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Reply #10 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 12:09:04

Ismar said:

 Another Dunhere question.

When attacking enemies in the staging area, do they get there defense subtracted from the attack total, or is it straight damage?

We've been playing it straight damage, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

Thanks,

Don

Treat it like a normal attack in regard to dealing damage.

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Reply #11 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 13:53:43

How does the ranged ability work with Dunhere.  Can characters with the ranged ability aid him?

 

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Reply #12 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 14:00:59

wraith428 said:

How does the ranged ability work with Dunhere.  Can characters with the ranged ability aid him?

No, they cannot. As per the rules for the Ranged keyword on page 24 (emphasis mine):

"A character with the ranged keyword can be declared by its controller as an attacker against enemies that are engaged with other players."

The enemy that Dúnhere attacks is still in the Staging Area and not actually engaged with any player, so the Ranged keyword has no bearing on the attack.

 

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Reply #13 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 14:31:50

HyenaSpotz said:

wraith428 said:

 

How does the ranged ability work with Dunhere.  Can characters with the ranged ability aid him?

 

 

No, they cannot. As per the rules for the Ranged keyword on page 24 (emphasis mine):

"A character with the ranged keyword can be declared by its controller as an attacker against enemies that are engaged with other players."

The enemy that Dúnhere attacks is still in the Staging Area and not actually engaged with any player, so the Ranged keyword has no bearing on the attack.

 

 

And then there's that whole Dunhere has to attack alone thing.

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Reply #14 | Published on 25 April 2011 - 14:55:46

qwertyuiop said:

 

And then there's that whole Dunhere has to attack alone thing.

Hush, you! :P

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Reply #15 | Published on 28 April 2011 - 17:55:23

qwertyuiop said:

Ismar said:

 

 Another Dunhere question.

When attacking enemies in the staging area, do they get there defense subtracted from the attack total, or is it straight damage?

We've been playing it straight damage, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

Thanks,

Don

 

 

Treat it like a normal attack in regard to dealing damage.

I would think it'd say something more like Dunhere "deals damage equal to his attack" if they intended it to be straight damage negating shields. I've always played it with shields applying. Which yes does suck sometimes for him at times, I know there's at least one monster with a 3 shield.

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