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I need to know whether to pre-order two core sets or three! Does anyone know how many copies of the cards are going to be included in the core set? I imagine the decks won't be 30 card decks with 3 copies of ten cards each, but if FFG would like to strategically leak a setlist.... 
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qwertyuiop said:
I need to know whether to pre-order two core sets or three! Does anyone know how many copies of the cards are going to be included in the core set? I imagine the decks won't be 30 card decks with 3 copies of ten cards each, but if FFG would like to strategically leak a setlist....
Leadership (cards 13-27; heroes Aragorn, Glóin,
Théodred)
Tactics (cards 28-42; heroes Legolas, Gimli, Thalin)
Spirit (cards 43-57; heroes Éowyn, Dunhere, Eleanor)
Lore (cards 58-72; heroes Glorfindel, Denethor,
Beravor)
Each starter deck should also include 1 copy of the
neutral ally card, Gandalf (card 73).
As you can see from the card numbers, each deck will contain 16 distinct cards. So, on average, every deck will contain two copies of every card. It's already known from previews that of some cards there will only be a single copy, some two copies and some three copies, and at least the Gandalf card will even come in four copies.
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Gandalf in 4 is not for sure considering the starter box is designed for 1-2 players and therefore he might only be 2 as the its assumed only 2 decks would be in use at any one time. At this point we cannot really say for sure 100% either way.
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Our preview copy of the final German version had 4 Gandalfs.
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I can´t understand WHY Fantasy Flight still does it (1-3 copies of the cards). All the new expansions of Warhammer Invasion comes with 3 copies of each card.
Why don´t expend a little more money in one core set complete with 3 copies of each card, so I do not have to burn my money with 4-6 copies of cards I will only use 3 of them!!!!!
Why such greed?
This makes me think twice before starting playing this game...
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I can´t understand WHY Fantasy Flight still does it (1-3 copies of the cards). All the new expansions of Warhammer Invasion comes with 3 copies of each card.
Why don´t expend a little more money in one core set complete with 3 copies of each card, so I do not have to burn my money with 4-6 copies of cards I will only use 3 of them!!!!!
Why such greed?
This makes me think twice before starting playing this game...
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This has come up and been answered dozens of times for the other LCG's, because of one simple fact. the core sets need variety. If you had 3 of each card there would be a lot less variety of cards in the boxes. Even the Warhammer core set has some 1s and 2s in it. All the core sets do. Warhammer has pretty much always except the first cycle had the new 3 of format but the core sets never will have that. And you do not need 3 of every card in any of the LCG's. There is quite a few cards you don't want 3 of in a deck. And you said it yourself the expansions have the 3 of. Just like Lord of the Rings expansions will. And unlike any LCG before it LotR will never have the older format of 10 cards with 1 copy and 10 cards with 3 copies, they will always be multiples of.
It is not greed as you surmise. Its due to the fact that core sets are introductions to the games and they need a wide variety of stuff more than they need multiples. I only have one copy of Warhammer core set and that never stopped me from playing or doing well in tournaments either. There are people out there that only own the core sets and I am sure they don't care if there is 3 of every card.
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jhaelen said:
Consider the following quote from the rules manual:
Leadership (cards 13-27; heroes Aragorn, Glóin,
Théodred)
Tactics (cards 28-42; heroes Legolas, Gimli, Thalin)
Spirit (cards 43-57; heroes Éowyn, Dunhere, Eleanor)
Lore (cards 58-72; heroes Glorfindel, Denethor,
Beravor)
Each starter deck should also include 1 copy of the
neutral ally card, Gandalf (card 73).
As you can see from the card numbers, each deck will contain 16 distinct cards. So, on average, every deck will contain two copies of every card. It's already known from previews that of some cards there will only be a single copy, some two copies and some three copies, and at least the Gandalf card will even come in four copies.
I imagine the heroes are included with the card numbering. I was 100% certain that the core set was not going to have full play sets of everything. I was wondering if anyone has been able to demo the game to verify copies. I'm ready to buy three copies upon release, if not for all the cards, then to at least be able to lend a copy to friends to increase player base.
He who thinks only about himself will destroy himself.
Two is usually a safe number for core sets.
If their numbering traditions hold the characters will all be grouped together more likely than with their respective decks. But that is based on the other two LCG's I collect.
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Toqtamish said:
pauloswolf said:
I can´t understand WHY Fantasy Flight still does it (1-3 copies of the cards). All the new expansions of Warhammer Invasion comes with 3 copies of each card.
Why don´t expend a little more money in one core set complete with 3 copies of each card, so I do not have to burn my money with 4-6 copies of cards I will only use 3 of them!!!!!
Why such greed?
This makes me think twice before starting playing this game...
This has come up and been answered dozens of times for the other LCG's, because of one simple fact. the core sets need variety. If you had 3 of each card there would be a lot less variety of cards in the boxes. Even the Warhammer core set has some 1s and 2s in it. All the core sets do. Warhammer has pretty much always except the first cycle had the new 3 of format but the core sets never will have that. And you do not need 3 of every card in any of the LCG's. There is quite a few cards you don't want 3 of in a deck. And you said it yourself the expansions have the 3 of. Just like Lord of the Rings expansions will. And unlike any LCG before it LotR will never have the older format of 10 cards with 1 copy and 10 cards with 3 copies, they will always be multiples of.
It is not greed as you surmise. Its due to the fact that core sets are introductions to the games and they need a wide variety of stuff more than they need multiples. I only have one copy of Warhammer core set and that never stopped me from playing or doing well in tournaments either. There are people out there that only own the core sets and I am sure they don't care if there is 3 of every card.
So, that´s exactly for this we have something called expansions, to have more variety. I am sure you will not have a good game with only the core set.
In another hand, I am a card game collector, so I do like to have 3 copies of each card, nobody knows when I will build a deck with those extremely weird cards. I don´t play for Tournaments, I play for fun and for the strategy.
Sorry for having you to answer a dozen times.
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pauloswolf said:
Toqtamish said:
pauloswolf said:
I can´t understand WHY Fantasy Flight still does it (1-3 copies of the cards). All the new expansions of Warhammer Invasion comes with 3 copies of each card.
Why don´t expend a little more money in one core set complete with 3 copies of each card, so I do not have to burn my money with 4-6 copies of cards I will only use 3 of them!!!!!
Why such greed?
This makes me think twice before starting playing this game...
This has come up and been answered dozens of times for the other LCG's, because of one simple fact. the core sets need variety. If you had 3 of each card there would be a lot less variety of cards in the boxes. Even the Warhammer core set has some 1s and 2s in it. All the core sets do. Warhammer has pretty much always except the first cycle had the new 3 of format but the core sets never will have that. And you do not need 3 of every card in any of the LCG's. There is quite a few cards you don't want 3 of in a deck. And you said it yourself the expansions have the 3 of. Just like Lord of the Rings expansions will. And unlike any LCG before it LotR will never have the older format of 10 cards with 1 copy and 10 cards with 3 copies, they will always be multiples of.
It is not greed as you surmise. Its due to the fact that core sets are introductions to the games and they need a wide variety of stuff more than they need multiples. I only have one copy of Warhammer core set and that never stopped me from playing or doing well in tournaments either. There are people out there that only own the core sets and I am sure they don't care if there is 3 of every card.
So, that´s exactly for this we have something called expansions, to have more variety. I am sure you will not have a good game with only the core set.
In another hand, I am a card game collector, so I do like to have 3 copies of each card, nobody knows when I will build a deck with those extremely weird cards. I don´t play for Tournaments, I play for fun and for the strategy.
Sorry for having you to answer a dozen times.
I forgot something: I am sure that there will be cards you will really want in your deck that will come only in 1-2 copies...
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pauloswolf said:
pauloswolf said:
Toqtamish said:
pauloswolf said:
I can´t understand WHY Fantasy Flight still does it (1-3 copies of the cards). All the new expansions of Warhammer Invasion comes with 3 copies of each card.
Why don´t expend a little more money in one core set complete with 3 copies of each card, so I do not have to burn my money with 4-6 copies of cards I will only use 3 of them!!!!!
Why such greed?
This makes me think twice before starting playing this game...
This has come up and been answered dozens of times for the other LCG's, because of one simple fact. the core sets need variety. If you had 3 of each card there would be a lot less variety of cards in the boxes. Even the Warhammer core set has some 1s and 2s in it. All the core sets do. Warhammer has pretty much always except the first cycle had the new 3 of format but the core sets never will have that. And you do not need 3 of every card in any of the LCG's. There is quite a few cards you don't want 3 of in a deck. And you said it yourself the expansions have the 3 of. Just like Lord of the Rings expansions will. And unlike any LCG before it LotR will never have the older format of 10 cards with 1 copy and 10 cards with 3 copies, they will always be multiples of.
It is not greed as you surmise. Its due to the fact that core sets are introductions to the games and they need a wide variety of stuff more than they need multiples. I only have one copy of Warhammer core set and that never stopped me from playing or doing well in tournaments either. There are people out there that only own the core sets and I am sure they don't care if there is 3 of every card.
So, that´s exactly for this we have something called expansions, to have more variety. I am sure you will not have a good game with only the core set.
In another hand, I am a card game collector, so I do like to have 3 copies of each card, nobody knows when I will build a deck with those extremely weird cards. I don´t play for Tournaments, I play for fun and for the strategy.
Sorry for having you to answer a dozen times.
I forgot something: I am sure that there will be cards you will really want in your deck that will come only in 1-2 copies...
Just the last thing: Why can´t we have variety if they put 3 copies of all cards? the core set would be a little bigger, only this a little expensive, but I am sure not as expensive as I have to buy 2 Core Sets.
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holy posts, one would have been fine. you can always edit afterwards.
The whole reason they don't want them bigger is to keep the costs down. We will never see core sets with 3 of every card. Core sets are intended as an introductory product.
And yes you can have absolutely great games with just a single core set of any of the LCG's.
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qwertyuiop said:
The core set doesn't have full play sets in the sense that it's only 30 cards per deck. Tournament decks must include a minimum of 50 cards. The core set is meant to be an introduction to the game, so the decks are smaller.
The German preview version Beardfan has played was a complete core set, i.e. it had exactly the cards we will get in the product version of the core set.
Myself, I'll introduce the game to my fellow gamers using a single core set for up to four players first. I hope someone gets hooked and will get a second core set. I imagine I might eventually want a second core set, but not before I've seen all the cards from the first AP cycle. I doubt I'd ever want a third one, though, even if there are cards I end up having only two copies of.
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I have two copies of the Game of Thrones core set only. I play that alot and very competitively so wanted the extra cards. But cannot see myself ever getting 3 of any core sets. I will get one for LotR and maybe eventually 2 if it seems useful but might not be necessary with the difference in game style.
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My two best friends will buy one copy of the core set each.Together we wil have 3 core sets and there is no need for me to buy multiply boxes.
If you are as lucky as i am with your friends then you dont need to buy 2 or 3 boxes for your self.
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Keep the Core set cheap enough to be accessible. definitely. As much as I'll get annoyed about needing to buy multiple sets to get duplicates of cards, I'd rather that, than have no opponents, because the core set is £100 and nobody will buy it.
The one thing I do find disappointing, particularly with something like AGOT is that you can't get a "cards-only" version of the Core Set. A way of getting duplicates of the cards without another board, set of plastic pieces etc. Appart from the money and the Power tokens (both easy enough to proxy) I never use them anyway, why would I want 3 sets.
Hopefully, with the differing types of cards, and differents needs for them in LOTR, this won't be such a problem with this game.
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