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Dust Tactics
A tactical miniatures board game in the world of Dust
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Dust Tactics 2nd Edition this year!!
Published on 25 February 2013 - 07:45:42
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Reply #61 | Published on 04 March 2013 - 11:05:40
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You know what I really want for 2nd edition?

 

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Reply #62 | Published on 04 March 2013 - 14:42:13

Tell me about it! I've been unable to access the dust tactics forums most of the day. This seems to be a regular problem with the FFG page as a whole. As far as Leathernecks go I def think we will see some tourney armies with 10 leatherneck units paired with 10 spotters and then another 100 points to spare for walkers or whatever else. Should be an interesting season…

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Reply #63 | Published on 04 March 2013 - 16:10:58
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One question, do people really spend $100's on just one unit type, just to win a game?

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Reply #64 | Published on 04 March 2013 - 16:52:42

Kriegschatten said:

xBeakeRx said:

 

I think limiting the number of spotters you can take at a ratio of 2:1 to artillery units is a simple way to fix the problem.  Until they fix the points cost of Recon Grenadiers they will continue to be a problem, but at least this would fix the spotter spam.

 

 

Unfortunately, we now have the cheap Type 1 infantry for the Allies to deal with, too. 

For 150 points you could have 10 units of Leathernecks and their infinite range, cover-ignoring, insta-reload, All-in-One artillery spamming the battlefield.  And since each Leatherneck unit could have 2 observer units under your proposed rules…

Right, and if that's what someone wants to do, then so be it.  At least in that scenario the spotters serve a purpose outside of just creating additional activations.  

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Reply #65 | Published on 04 March 2013 - 16:56:26

Major Mishap said:

One question, do people really spend $100's on just one unit type, just to win a game?

Have you ever played WH40k?  People will buy entirely new armies in order to get an advantage to win, that's just the essence of the power-gamer.  Watch a 40k tournament and you'll see a majority of the players playing slight variations of a few particular armies.

The problem with an extreme list like 10 leathernecks + 10 spotters, is it will do very well against certain armies, and get crushed by others.  It just depends on who you get matched up against that will determine their fate.

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Reply #66 | Published on 04 March 2013 - 19:16:44

I've seen people spend thousands of dollars for 40k armies just so they can win tourney's. It's complete maddness and that's why I got out of the 40k hobby. And it's only 100 dollars for a premium model. I paint my own and you can get the command vehicle on amazon for under $40.

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Reply #67 | Published on 05 March 2013 - 11:06:33

Yeah, and that's why I'm sure we'll see some "Leatherneck Spam" at the regional qualifiers this year.  I'm considering just taking a Mao Zedong and Lavrentiy Beria with some cheap infantry and saying "come get me!"  

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Reply #68 | Published on 05 March 2013 - 14:22:08

Thats were even a transport hele would annihilate them.

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Reply #69 | Published on 05 March 2013 - 15:32:47

Yeah, until you realize they have 100 points leftover to throw in 4 Wildfires…

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Reply #70 | Published on 05 March 2013 - 15:34:49

10 Leathernecks

10 Spotter squads

4 Wildfires

24 unit activations, Leathernecks just pound everything from behind cover while the Wildfires provide protection from air attacks.  GG!

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Reply #71 | Published on 05 March 2013 - 21:39:02

Wildfires die, and the 6 air units kill everything on the board.

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Reply #72 | Published on 06 March 2013 - 04:52:33

Regardless these are not balanced lists. You would be annihilated by half your opponents. Even with wildfires (which are lets face it very squishey). Still. I could see someone taking 4 or 5 heavy weapons teams and making it very difficult for your opponent.

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Reply #73 | Published on 06 March 2013 - 13:16:44

Yes, All of the weapons teams we've seen so far are fairly cheap for what they do.

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Reply #74 | Published on 06 March 2013 - 15:36:54
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Dakkon426 said:

Yes, All of the weapons teams we've seen so far are fairly cheap for what they do.

 

Which is kind of frustrating to see because, from what I remember, AT-43 had the exact same problem.

 

Rackham made it possible to fill out army lists with cheap heavy weapon squads and tons of people started to pad out their activations with them.  Because, why wouldn't you, if given the chance?

 

 

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Reply #75 | Published on 06 March 2013 - 17:55:08

Which is why I still say the simple solution is to require the side with more activations to move 2 squads per activation until there evened out on both sides.

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